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Old 10-21-2010, 12:17 PM
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i already have through years and years of experience if you mix a steel bolt with an aluminum engine block and mix in some coolant that isnt changed often enough you will get a white powdery substance that plays hell on aluminum threads ..
i figured you were right with AAALL your YEEEEARS of experience but i wanted to know the science behind it.
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Re: more new models OMR SUBCAGES !!!

Originally Posted by Ethiopian
yep, steel bolts in aluminum clipon tubes suck,starts to rust and the bolt either breaks or takes the threads out with it. same with motor mounts on my f4i.
yeah but that's obvious because steel is prone to corrosion. when ro'jer said "two metals" it triggered my curiosity to find out why and which particular metal combinations are prone to corrosion
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ask bill nye.
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Re: more new models OMR SUBCAGES !!!

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done.
and ?
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ask bill nye.
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he made science fun, and the magic school bus was sick.
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Re: more new models OMR SUBCAGES !!!

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he made science fun, and the magic school bus was sick.
haha the magic school.. i use to watch that **** everyday in elementary school ... along with arthur, and wish bone... we were forced to watch it everyday in aftercare haha
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Originally Posted by old man roger
and ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion
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Re: more new models OMR SUBCAGES !!!

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haha the magic school.. i use to watch that **** everyday in elementary school ... along with arthur, and wish bone... we were forced to watch it everyday in aftercare haha
glad i lived close enough to walk home, i bet those shows sucked.
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Re: more new models OMR SUBCAGES !!!

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i'd be relieved that it's not a broken part that i have to buy.
cab ride home would cost more than another water pump. i was really ******* relieved to see those bolts loose
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Re: more new models OMR SUBCAGES !!!

Originally Posted by old man roger
mike it probably wasnt the fact you didnt use locktite it was more likely the gaskets fault , a good idea when ever you replace any thing that deals with a gasket on a car is to go back and retorque once or twice after heat cycles ..
it was one of those thin metal gaskets and i lightly dressed both sides of it. good idea about retorquing after heat cycling, im gonna do that this time.
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Re: more new models OMR SUBCAGES !!!

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Re: more new models OMR SUBCAGES !!!

Originally Posted by old man roger
as a matter of fact never sieze would be a better idea than locktite when dealing with aluminum ..
hmm, i might actually have some of that laying around
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Re: more new models OMR SUBCAGES !!!

Originally Posted by old man roger
different metals tend to create alot of corrosion and that can damage the threads so can locktite ..
my thinking is that the aluminum block will expand earlier than the bolt willl, which will make it come loose for sure. i was planning to use blue, not red. does that damage threads?
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Re: more new models OMR SUBCAGES !!!

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i'll have to research that.
no thats a fact for sure. go look at something old and aluminum thats been touching steel for a while. an aluminum boat would be a perfect example
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Originally Posted by Trachito
yeah but that's obvious because steel is prone to corrosion. when ro'jer said "two metals" it triggered my curiosity to find out why and which particular metal combinations are prone to corrosion
aluminum and anything else pretty much. i know even stainless bolts in aluminum will do it, white powdery **** just like the old guy said
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my thinking is that the aluminum block will expand earlier than the bolt willl, which will make it come loose for sure. i was planning to use blue, not red. does that damage threads?
i dont like to use locktite an any thing aluminum , and yes they do expand and contract at different rates thats why you should never pull a spark plug out of a hot aluminum motor but if you think about it the hole is biggest when the block is cold it will tighten up on the bolt when the motor heats up ..
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Re: more new models OMR SUBCAGES !!!

Originally Posted by old man roger
...but if you think about it the hole is biggest when the block is cold it will tighten up on the bolt when the motor heats up ..
i was thinking it would be the opposite
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