crispins

Hello.

I have been riding street bikes for about 15 years.

I have alwys been into speed and street racing.

Now I totally interested in riding wheelies.

I ride a 2004 ZX10-R

I have read (many times) the well written post about how to wheelie.

It just seems to me that ckutching seems so much more unstable than powering it up.

Now the post talks alot about the problem with first gear wheelstands is how fast they come up and how quickly you run out of gear.

Well I wonder if my bike isn't an exception to that.

First gear is sooo tall. The bike does 104 in First.

It comes up nice and smooth in first. I bring it to around 4-6K and just smack it and it comes up nice.

I have not gotten it to the BP yet but I feel that I am getting close.

Last night I was out with my buddie who rides 12's in his 954.

The only thing he does is power it up.

What should I do?

Should I continue powering it up or should I just go to clutching it?

Thanks for your help!

RoadStainR6

He must be doing some seriously fast 12's if he's powering them up. That or he's slowing them down a lot by staying behind BP. I had no idea that the ZX 10 could go that fast in 1st gear. thats just unheard of! not to mention insane. Most bikes are incredibly touchy in first gear and are hard to get used to for a beginner to wheelies (like myself). My bike will do about 63 in 1st gear. but it's still twitchy as hell. Clutching up is much more predictable and can be done from a stand still. Plus you'll be able to do them in higher gears when power ups aren't possible. And it gives you more rpm to play with when trying to get it to BP. By learning to clutch wheelies up you will be ahead of the game when it comes time for slow stuff and bar tricks. I would keep practicing and try to get comfortable with clutching. You'll get it to BP faster and be able to ride it longer. Just my

GsxrMike

I say since youre just learning with a zx10, power up wheelies in 2nd untill you have control of the bike and can slow your wheelies down. This way you wont clutch up and plant the back of your head in the pavement. I saw 1 zx10 racing a busa and they are sick fast. Does anyone know if someone on sl stunts out a new zx10?

dan gates

power dude. stand ups with left foot on rear peg, cover rear brake, comes up smooth and quick. saves the clutch from a beating also

ranchosmog

i hit 100mph on my 04 r1 in first gear i was trying to hit 113mph like they advertise, only tried 3 times though i really could care less anyway ya i say learn to power wheelie in first and once you get comfortable with some height learn the clutch you should be able to pull them up whenever you want not just when your motor`s spinning at 8k.

DoodleF4i

yeah learn 1st and 2nd off power until you can keep it steady at the rpms then after you get down clutching them up you'll be riding pimp wheelies.also first may be twitchy but you'll have lots of engine braking to save your *** if you go too high

crispins

ok.

Cool thanks foryour answers.

I will keep learning the power way untill I get confortable.

I have been taking my bike out every day practicing.

It is addicting.

Wheeliest

i been a long time fan of powering also, i power my bike up at 40 mph and only eat up like 1000rpm till im in BP, now that i've got powering really consistant, i been trying to clutch em up and i finally bounce/clutch a 2nd gear stander to night for the first time, felt alot smoother.. i been doing 1st gear clutch ups jokinly when im on sidewalks n stuff, but its starting to turn out

loco_stunt_guy

Throw a big *** sprkt on there! If you can go 113 in first you can stand to loose a little top end. Go up like 8 teeth n the rear. Then clutch it up. Be carefull though, I've heard about problems with the clutch on those.

Did you replace your front rim yet?

ranchosmog

if you were talking to me about my r1 i like the tall gearing jus the way it is its so smooth and 2nd gear got legs for days when chaseing the weelie down i dont really stunt this bike to much i use it mostly when my gixer is down or in the twisties, but last time i was out on it i did notice the clutch didnt feel quite right, what all did you hear about the clutches on these bikes?

biggiestyle1981

2nd gear throttle up and fly

crispins

He is talking about my ZX10-R

Yes I did replace the rim already.

I ordered new sprokets -1, +2

I think that will make a huge difference.


Also R1's DO NOT GO 113 in first??

Where did you hear that at?

I believe the real number is 98 (which is still very good)

-MXD-

POWER WHEELIES ARE GAY. they are for fast wheelies only. listen to pros, none of them power. learn to clutch, then you can go slow from the beginning.

KungFu954

Keep in mind I suck butt at wheelies so my might be in pasos.

I have been learning for about 2 straight years one thing I have learned is if you've found something that works,,,stay with it until you get it then try the next thing. There is no absoute way to do a wheelie there are tons of different styles with different results, could be all your raod experiance has given you a good throttle hand and power ups aren't as haszzardous to you as they would be to another rider. So, do what is working for you THEN learn the other techniques

and always cover the rear brake.

Got2josh

Over 100 in 1st??? I guy I now from school has a busa and said he can only do 80 in first. My katana can do 45.

inolen

DO NOT try to 12 your **** with power. WTF type of forum is this nowadays, the newbies trying to kill other newbies forum? Get a cage, and a bar, and learn to clutch them in 1st the right way, then take your skills and you can learn fast wheelies easier.

ranchosmog

i could care less to tell you the truth of my top speed in first gear the guys at the yamahaa dealer told me 113mph i hit 100mph but anyways my point was its got tall gears and i like it the way it is you got alot of power and you shouldnt have to gear it to learn to wheelie if you wanted the bike to do somthing else or had other reasons to gear it thats a whole different isue but whatever have fun.

inolen

Uhm... it would seem to me that if it is geared so tall that 1st dosn't have much torque.

ranchosmog

your right it really doesnt have TO much torqe but its still got like 158hp to the tire its how yamaha tames that power if you ever ride one its got a ton of power in the r`s but verry controlable in the lower rpm`s.....its kinda nice to hop on somthing not geared so low n twitchy.

inolen

The r6's are geared rather low stock. I think they have about 2-3 extra teeth in the rear compared to other bikes. I have no clue on the r1.