balance point BS!!!!!
balance is the point in which the bike would be comfortable if you only had one wheel, just like the vertical version of how you balance the bike horizontally 
12-29-2003, 02:39 AM
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Confusion
There's a lot of confusion about balance point. Let me try to clear up some myths.
The balance point of a motorcycle is a fixed angle depending on the amount of fluids in the bike, and the position of the rider.
If you take a basic sportbike, and have one person on each frame slider and lift it into a wheelie in first gear from a standstill, it will balance at a certain height when there is no rider on board.
Do the same thing with a person sitting on the bike, the balance point will be lower.
Do the same thing with a person on the bike and leaning back, the balance point will be lower than the person leaning towards the tank.
Put more gas in the tank, the BP will change as well.
There's another point, however, that matters to many and I think many confuse with balance point. I call this point the "constant speed wheelie point." Let's just say CSWP for short for now.
The CSWP gets is lower with increasing speed. EG: A constant speed 10mph is very near the balance point. A constant speed 130mph is pretty low. This is what I think most people think when they say "balance point" and is the source of much confusion (along with the confusion of body position affecting balance point.
I hope this turns on some lightbulbs.
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- Ahigh
The balance point of a motorcycle is a fixed angle depending on the amount of fluids in the bike, and the position of the rider.
If you take a basic sportbike, and have one person on each frame slider and lift it into a wheelie in first gear from a standstill, it will balance at a certain height when there is no rider on board.
Do the same thing with a person sitting on the bike, the balance point will be lower.
Do the same thing with a person on the bike and leaning back, the balance point will be lower than the person leaning towards the tank.
Put more gas in the tank, the BP will change as well.
There's another point, however, that matters to many and I think many confuse with balance point. I call this point the "constant speed wheelie point." Let's just say CSWP for short for now.
The CSWP gets is lower with increasing speed. EG: A constant speed 10mph is very near the balance point. A constant speed 130mph is pretty low. This is what I think most people think when they say "balance point" and is the source of much confusion (along with the confusion of body position affecting balance point.
I hope this turns on some lightbulbs.
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- Ahigh
12-29-2003, 12:00 PM
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Re: Confusion
Originally posted by Ahigh
There's a lot of confusion about balance point. Let me try to clear up some myths.
The balance point of a motorcycle is a fixed angle depending on the amount of fluids in the bike, and the position of the rider.
If you take a basic sportbike, and have one person on each frame slider and lift it into a wheelie in first gear from a standstill, it will balance at a certain height when there is no rider on board.
Do the same thing with a person sitting on the bike, the balance point will be lower.
Do the same thing with a person on the bike and leaning back, the balance point will be lower than the person leaning towards the tank.
Put more gas in the tank, the BP will change as well.
There's another point, however, that matters to many and I think many confuse with balance point. I call this point the "constant speed wheelie point." Let's just say CSWP for short for now.
The CSWP gets is lower with increasing speed. EG: A constant speed 10mph is very near the balance point. A constant speed 130mph is pretty low. This is what I think most people think when they say "balance point" and is the source of much confusion (along with the confusion of body position affecting balance point.
I hope this turns on some lightbulbs.
--
- Ahigh
There's a lot of confusion about balance point. Let me try to clear up some myths.
The balance point of a motorcycle is a fixed angle depending on the amount of fluids in the bike, and the position of the rider.
If you take a basic sportbike, and have one person on each frame slider and lift it into a wheelie in first gear from a standstill, it will balance at a certain height when there is no rider on board.
Do the same thing with a person sitting on the bike, the balance point will be lower.
Do the same thing with a person on the bike and leaning back, the balance point will be lower than the person leaning towards the tank.
Put more gas in the tank, the BP will change as well.
There's another point, however, that matters to many and I think many confuse with balance point. I call this point the "constant speed wheelie point." Let's just say CSWP for short for now.
The CSWP gets is lower with increasing speed. EG: A constant speed 10mph is very near the balance point. A constant speed 130mph is pretty low. This is what I think most people think when they say "balance point" and is the source of much confusion (along with the confusion of body position affecting balance point.
I hope this turns on some lightbulbs.
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- Ahigh
12-29-2003, 09:10 PM
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Re: Confusion
Originally posted by Ahigh
There's a lot of confusion about balance point. Let me try to clear up some myths.
The balance point of a motorcycle is a fixed angle depending on the amount of fluids in the bike, and the position of the rider.
If you take a basic sportbike, and have one person on each frame slider and lift it into a wheelie in first gear from a standstill, it will balance at a certain height when there is no rider on board.
Do the same thing with a person sitting on the bike, the balance point will be lower.
Do the same thing with a person on the bike and leaning back, the balance point will be lower than the person leaning towards the tank.
Put more gas in the tank, the BP will change as well.
There's another point, however, that matters to many and I think many confuse with balance point. I call this point the "constant speed wheelie point." Let's just say CSWP for short for now.
The CSWP gets is lower with increasing speed. EG: A constant speed 10mph is very near the balance point. A constant speed 130mph is pretty low. This is what I think most people think when they say "balance point" and is the source of much confusion (along with the confusion of body position affecting balance point.
I hope this turns on some lightbulbs.
--
- Ahigh
There's a lot of confusion about balance point. Let me try to clear up some myths.
The balance point of a motorcycle is a fixed angle depending on the amount of fluids in the bike, and the position of the rider.
If you take a basic sportbike, and have one person on each frame slider and lift it into a wheelie in first gear from a standstill, it will balance at a certain height when there is no rider on board.
Do the same thing with a person sitting on the bike, the balance point will be lower.
Do the same thing with a person on the bike and leaning back, the balance point will be lower than the person leaning towards the tank.
Put more gas in the tank, the BP will change as well.
There's another point, however, that matters to many and I think many confuse with balance point. I call this point the "constant speed wheelie point." Let's just say CSWP for short for now.
The CSWP gets is lower with increasing speed. EG: A constant speed 10mph is very near the balance point. A constant speed 130mph is pretty low. This is what I think most people think when they say "balance point" and is the source of much confusion (along with the confusion of body position affecting balance point.
I hope this turns on some lightbulbs.
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- Ahigh
12-30-2003, 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by a56kuser
f4i and gsxrs has the same bp..... its a tad lower than this pic
f4i and gsxrs has the same bp..... its a tad lower than this pic
12-30-2003, 11:48 PM
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Re: Confusion
shiiii did u go to wheelie college or something? **** man i take hits in the head from falling off a motorcycle.. 
^yea what he said
Originally posted by Ahigh
There's a lot of confusion about balance point. Let me try to clear up some myths.
The balance point of a motorcycle is a fixed angle depending on the amount of fluids in the bike, and the position of the rider.
If you take a basic sportbike, and have one person on each frame slider and lift it into a wheelie in first gear from a standstill, it will balance at a certain height when there is no rider on board.
I hope this turns on some lightbulbs.
- Ahigh
There's a lot of confusion about balance point. Let me try to clear up some myths.
The balance point of a motorcycle is a fixed angle depending on the amount of fluids in the bike, and the position of the rider.
If you take a basic sportbike, and have one person on each frame slider and lift it into a wheelie in first gear from a standstill, it will balance at a certain height when there is no rider on board.
I hope this turns on some lightbulbs.
- Ahigh
01-01-2004, 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by a56kuser
f4i and gsxrs has the same bp..... its a tad lower than this pic
Thats funny. Thats too high for a gixer. May loop out or something. Just kidding lol
Originally posted by a56kuser
f4i and gsxrs has the same bp..... its a tad lower than this pic
Thats funny. Thats too high for a gixer. May loop out or something. Just kidding lol
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