how to on 12s
09-22-2003, 10:04 PM
#5
learn without a bar
09-23-2003, 02:44 AM
#6
back in the saddle again
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: terre haute, IN
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ya, the plastics give but if you slip on the brake or clutch it and don't brake at all...i've saw it twice this summer: the bike just keeps on coming over and it's a horrible accident and the rider gets hurt pretty bad.
2 of my buddies did it this summer, one on an f4 and one on a 2003 gixxer 1000. no bars, the bike came up smacked 12 and just folded the subframe and kept on coming over onto them.
when i was learning i had my bar and on a couple occasions i've come back really hard on my bar and it slams down then ejects me and the bike falls forward or on the sides...where i want it. i don't want that **** on top of me like they had it. it wasn't pretty at all.
NOW, if you set it down a little crooked, the tail will be more forgiving that way, cause the bar will throw the bike down, but it usuall doesn't land on you. i'm just saying for safty of coming back to hard too fast, the bar will stop it from flipping on over.
2 of my buddies did it this summer, one on an f4 and one on a 2003 gixxer 1000. no bars, the bike came up smacked 12 and just folded the subframe and kept on coming over onto them.
when i was learning i had my bar and on a couple occasions i've come back really hard on my bar and it slams down then ejects me and the bike falls forward or on the sides...where i want it. i don't want that **** on top of me like they had it. it wasn't pretty at all.
NOW, if you set it down a little crooked, the tail will be more forgiving that way, cause the bar will throw the bike down, but it usuall doesn't land on you. i'm just saying for safty of coming back to hard too fast, the bar will stop it from flipping on over.
09-23-2003, 04:42 AM
#7
It Ain't Easy Bein Cheesy
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Socal
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i learned with the bar, and i think there's almost a couple guaranteed wrecks learning with the bar, but for some reason im glad i did. i never tried without it so i can't really give any advice on it, but i'd hate to tell someone to learn with a bar and watch them wreck
09-23-2003, 11:33 AM
#9
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I JUST LEARNED WITH THE BAR
I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE THE BIKE COME ON TOP OF ME EIGHTER ?? YEAH YOU GET THROWN FOR A RIDE IF ITS NOT FLAT BUT IT ALWAYS COMES FOWARD/SIDEWAYZ NOT BACK ONTO YOU.
JUST OUR 2 PENNYS. TO EACH HIS OWN.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE THE BIKE COME ON TOP OF ME EIGHTER ?? YEAH YOU GET THROWN FOR A RIDE IF ITS NOT FLAT BUT IT ALWAYS COMES FOWARD/SIDEWAYZ NOT BACK ONTO YOU.
JUST OUR 2 PENNYS. TO EACH HIS OWN.
09-23-2003, 11:38 AM
#11
back in the saddle again
Join Date: Apr 2003
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well ya, it teaches you more brake control, but if you mess up the first couple times cause you have no brake control, it's a bad deal.
the thing is, you're not suppose to hit until you can rock slower stuff....that is the key. once you can rock the slower stuff and keep the bike squared up, then you set htat bar down. before, i would just slam it back like a mad man, now i can get it up, rock it slow and when i feel like i'm nice and square then i set hte bar down and i have no problems.
the thing is, you're not suppose to hit until you can rock slower stuff....that is the key. once you can rock the slower stuff and keep the bike squared up, then you set htat bar down. before, i would just slam it back like a mad man, now i can get it up, rock it slow and when i feel like i'm nice and square then i set hte bar down and i have no problems.
09-23-2003, 11:47 AM
#12
dedrater
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Lewiston, Me
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Originally posted by MANUBI33
TO EACH HIS OWN.
TO EACH HIS OWN.
Like you said
i tried learnin wit the bar and wound up like your first try. Wish I had the sequence of me in Daytona last yr that **** was funny.
I went back to no bar and learned me some brake control. Matter of fact I still dont run a bar and I have parked it on the subframe.
smashin tail is soo much fun
I learned slow **** b4 I hit tail, also taught me brake control and that helped me a lot with the nth's
09-26-2003, 11:24 AM
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I learned with a bar and thats what I recommend. Friends of mine were learning at the same time without one and they would F their bikes up pretty good, cuz the bar will save you from flipping all the way back. A beginner usually doesn't have the brake control to hit it and put the bike down once the tail has scraped. Just make sure you are balanced when you snap the bike up and it should stay straight. thats my 2 cents
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