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Old 06-03-2009, 05:35 PM
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anybody else have this problem

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problem-front brakes
heres the deal, when doing a stoppie session brakes and master feel great.
its when i stop to take a 5 10 min break, when i get back on the bike i have hardley any lever. it will only go back to normal by riding around fast applying the brakes. hate having to ask for help but im going nuts.
ss lines
motul fluid
damn near new stock pads
no air in lines
master seemed to be ok when tested.
wondering if anyone has had this problem?
and what it turned out to be.
just wanted to ask before i get another master that i might not need.
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:39 PM
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Mine has been doing this too

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Re: anybody else have this problem

do you have the res mounted lower than the master ?

are there any kinks in your line to the master from the res ?

have you changed your fluid lately ?
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Re: anybody else have this problem

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do you have the res mounted lower than the master ?

are there any kinks in your line to the master from the res ?

have you changed your fluid lately ?

no
no
and yes
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no
no
and yes
hhhmmmm stumped
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:50 PM
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my first guess was you were boiling your fluid but normally that would get softer as you ride and get better after it cooled off ..
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Samething happened to me when the brake lever got pushed in after a crash. Went nuts trying to figure it out. In the end found out it was the master cylinder. I swapped it with a new one and the problem went away and it's been fine ever since. I took apart the master and cleaned it. the piston in the cylinder has a grove and that grove releases pressure so that it doesn't stay locked up. Well, the crash must have damaged either the cylinder wall or something because it didn't hold the pressure in and gradually started getting spongier and spongier after use. Not sure if this is the case for you but that was my story.

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hhhmmmm stumped

me too.


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me too.


on a dif note my omr subcage is the ****
props for making a product of the highest quality
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Samething happened to me when the brake lever got pushed in after a crash. Went nuts trying to figure it out. In the end found out it was the master cylinder. I swapped it with a new one and the problem went away and it's been fine ever since. I took apart the master and cleaned it. the piston in the cylinder has a grove and that grove releases pressure so that it doesn't stay locked up. Well, the crash must have damaged either the cylinder wall or something because it didn't hold the pressure in and gradually started getting spongier and spongier after use. Not sure if this is the case for you but that was my story.

thank you. im gonna swap out masters and see if that fixes the prob
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Re: anybody else have this problem

Originally Posted by SHOCKER A
thank you. im gonna swap out masters and see if that fixes the prob

I'm tellin you, that's the only way to rule **** out otherwise you spend hours bleeding line and shyt. I have the benifit of having a air compressor but it is still a bitch. good luck.
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Sounds like a bad master to me.. Had the same problem before
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Re: anybody else have this problem

I'm probably leaning towards boiled fluid or master also.

Certainly sounds like air being introduced into the top end of your brake system. Make sure you replace that banjo crush washers if you decide to swap masters. They are commonly overlooked and I found them to be the source of air problems multiple times.
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