636 rear wheel swap
#41
Re: 636 rear wheel swap
Thats complete **** talk.....The lenght on both swingarms is differnt by like only 1/2", but you can make up for that with your wheel adjustment....Theres enough room to set it up with the exact same wheelbase, so nothing is differnt besides how it looks...
#42
Re: 636 rear wheel swap
Are you missing some 05+ spacers? Cause you should be using the 05+ spacer on the left(cushdrive) and the 05+ spacer on the right with the 05+ caliper bracket....
Make sure your not using the 03/04 left side(cush drive) spacer with the 05 swingarm! If you do your chain will be out of alignment with your front sprocket.......
#43
Re: 636 rear wheel swap
I was wondering why you had the 03/04 brake caliper bracket in there?
Are you missing some 05+ spacers? Cause you should be using the 05+ spacer on the left(cushdrive) and the 05+ spacer on the right with the 05+ caliper bracket....
Make sure your not using the 03/04 left side(cush drive) spacer with the 05 swingarm! If you do your chain will be out of alignment with your front sprocket.......
Are you missing some 05+ spacers? Cause you should be using the 05+ spacer on the left(cushdrive) and the 05+ spacer on the right with the 05+ caliper bracket....
Make sure your not using the 03/04 left side(cush drive) spacer with the 05 swingarm! If you do your chain will be out of alignment with your front sprocket.......
#44
Re: 636 rear wheel swap
All the 05/06 spacers are aluminum and anodized a Titanium colour...
Here is the 03/04 and 05/06 left side spacer, 05/06(Ti colour) is on the left and you can see it is 2-3mm shorter....So if you use the wrong one your chain will not be aligned properly with your front sprocket.....
So these are the 2 05/06 spacers you should be running, one on each side + the caliper bracket and thats it......For reference the cush left side spacer has a 21.5mm width, and the right side spacer has a 18mm width...
Id hook you up but I dont have any spares of these, sorry. My friends bike is apart right now for a frame swap, so thats why Im able to take these pics....
#46
Re: 636 rear wheel swap
You only mix spacers between years when your running the 05/06 wheel on the old 03/04 swingarm, but because your using 05/06 wheel AND swingarm everything should be 05/06 for all spacers....You can use the 03/04 axle, thats cool because the only differnce is its longer....Best thing to do is get all 05/06 spacers, youll know thier 05/06 becasue they weight less then half as much and are that Ti colour....
Thats why its getting confusing! Theres a few differnt combinations you can run and Ive given info for all of them
#47
Re: 636 rear wheel swap
No you need 05/06 on both sides.....If you use that 03/04 on the left your chain/rear sprocket will be 2-3 mm off alignment with your front sprocket...
You only mix spacers between years when your running the 05/06 wheel on the old 03/04 swingarm, but because your using 05/06 wheel AND swingarm everything should be 05/06 for all spacers....You can use the 03/04 axle, thats cool because the only differnce is its longer....Best thing to do is get all 05/06 spacers, youll know thier 05/06 becasue they weight less then half as much and are that Ti colour....
Thats why its getting confusing! Theres a few differnt combinations you can run and Ive given info for all of them
You only mix spacers between years when your running the 05/06 wheel on the old 03/04 swingarm, but because your using 05/06 wheel AND swingarm everything should be 05/06 for all spacers....You can use the 03/04 axle, thats cool because the only differnce is its longer....Best thing to do is get all 05/06 spacers, youll know thier 05/06 becasue they weight less then half as much and are that Ti colour....
Thats why its getting confusing! Theres a few differnt combinations you can run and Ive given info for all of them
#48
Re: 636 rear wheel swap
Heres a pic from when I coated tit.....03/04 636 swingarm on either end, 05/06 swinger on the left 05 ZX10 on the right...Looks close might work, but dont know how differnt the newer ones are...
It looks like the 07/08 636 ones would bolt right up like the 05/06
#50
Re: 636 rear wheel swap
ok I did the 05/06 swingarm sawp on my 03/04
I think I used the wrong washer on the left side pivot bolt(the big one throught the frame) I couldn't fit the little bracket shaped kinda like the letter v with the little 6mm bolt with 10mm hex head.
the I realized that willie is probaly right about the 04 shock hitting.
So I just scored an 06 rear shock and lingage on e bay.
So when I get the shock and get the bike up in the air I'm gonna take off the swingarm and get some pics posted up of what i'm talking about.
I got all the 03/04 and 05/06 hardware just gotta figure out how that left side goes together.
I plan on using the 06 rear shock and linkage with dog bone arms but will use the 03/04 shock top mount like johnny says
I think I used the wrong washer on the left side pivot bolt(the big one throught the frame) I couldn't fit the little bracket shaped kinda like the letter v with the little 6mm bolt with 10mm hex head.
the I realized that willie is probaly right about the 04 shock hitting.
So I just scored an 06 rear shock and lingage on e bay.
So when I get the shock and get the bike up in the air I'm gonna take off the swingarm and get some pics posted up of what i'm talking about.
I got all the 03/04 and 05/06 hardware just gotta figure out how that left side goes together.
I plan on using the 06 rear shock and linkage with dog bone arms but will use the 03/04 shock top mount like johnny says
#51
Re: 636 rear wheel swap
ok I did the 05/06 swingarm sawp on my 03/04
I think I used the wrong washer on the left side pivot bolt(the big one throught the frame) I couldn't fit the little bracket shaped kinda like the letter v with the little 6mm bolt with 10mm hex head.
the I realized that willie is probaly right about the 04 shock hitting.
So I just scored an 06 rear shock and lingage on e bay.
So when I get the shock and get the bike up in the air I'm gonna take off the swingarm and get some pics posted up of what i'm talking about.
I got all the 03/04 and 05/06 hardware just gotta figure out how that left side goes together.
I plan on using the 06 rear shock and linkage with dog bone arms but will use the 03/04 shock top mount like johnny says
I think I used the wrong washer on the left side pivot bolt(the big one throught the frame) I couldn't fit the little bracket shaped kinda like the letter v with the little 6mm bolt with 10mm hex head.
the I realized that willie is probaly right about the 04 shock hitting.
So I just scored an 06 rear shock and lingage on e bay.
So when I get the shock and get the bike up in the air I'm gonna take off the swingarm and get some pics posted up of what i'm talking about.
I got all the 03/04 and 05/06 hardware just gotta figure out how that left side goes together.
I plan on using the 06 rear shock and linkage with dog bone arms but will use the 03/04 shock top mount like johnny says
#52
Re: 636 rear wheel swap
I pulled a pic of the 05/06 setup. And circled the problem parts for me.
On the right side I removed the rubber seal that is circled. I replaced that with the 03/04 and slid in the threader sleeve for the axel bolt. That side is ok.
My problem is on the left side.
The washer on the end labled B with the arrow, I forget what I did but i think I did use that washer and put it in where it goes on the pic.
My problem was I couldn't fit the hold down clamp part# 11053. I couldn't get the swing arm to fit with it in there. But I noticed in your pics ***** you got it to fit. So something is wrong. I did get# 55020 chain guide ok just not the hold down clamp.
I gotta get the bike to my boys who has a beam I can hang it from the subframe and take it back off. I assembled the swingarm when I got my frame back from powder coating.
On the right side I removed the rubber seal that is circled. I replaced that with the 03/04 and slid in the threader sleeve for the axel bolt. That side is ok.
My problem is on the left side.
The washer on the end labled B with the arrow, I forget what I did but i think I did use that washer and put it in where it goes on the pic.
My problem was I couldn't fit the hold down clamp part# 11053. I couldn't get the swing arm to fit with it in there. But I noticed in your pics ***** you got it to fit. So something is wrong. I did get# 55020 chain guide ok just not the hold down clamp.
I gotta get the bike to my boys who has a beam I can hang it from the subframe and take it back off. I assembled the swingarm when I got my frame back from powder coating.
Last edited by Greg Mcglynn; 01-13-2009 at 04:39 PM.
#55
Re: 636 rear wheel swap
so all that stuff on the left side has to go in. I'm its something stupid I am doing wrong. I'm gonna try to slide that hold down clamp in there without taking the whole swing back off. stay tuned for pics
#58
Re: 636 rear wheel swap
does the clamp go on the outside of plastic chain guide or inside. Don't know wich way the thing goes on its curved so it only goes one way.
I know I don't even need the thing but I want this to be perfect.
I know I don't even need the thing but I want this to be perfect.