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Old 02-09-2006, 12:41 PM
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f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

Got the bike and needed a new battery cuz the other was done.

Put a new one in and all worked fine. Just recently it started to not turn over. I can push start it and it runs fine with no problems but whenever I turn it off I have to push start it again.

I charged the battery and installed a new rectifier and tried to start it and no go...it turned over a little more but nothing. I have checked the fuses and everything seems ok. What else can it be? Shouldnt be the stator right since the bike runs once started?

Do the relays go bad on these bikes? Lemme kno.
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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

My friend has the same bike and the same problem. He had a loose CCT and I think it finally broke cause his motor is toast! We were riding around town then stopped at Carls Jr. Proceeded to get back on the bikes and the problem came back and wouldnt start at all, but would run only if you kept the starter button pushed in. But after cooling down for the night his started back up and ran the 1st time. Oh and his fuel system wouldnt prime either. Is your fuel primming when you turn the bike on??? If not then its probabaly the same problem. Maybe a fried relay, I think theirs one for the fuel pump near the rear cowl - right side. The freaking idiot ran the bike forever with a blown CCT and I think it finally broke in the motor. Stupid.. Good luck man.
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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

you're right its not the stator. I would check the starter silinoid.(its right behind the battery)and I would also check to see if theres a draw on the battery when the bikes off witch would indicate a short somewhere. will it start while its on a charger?? if it does then there could be something between the charging system and the battery

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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

I have a manual cct and the fuel system primes fine. Like I said the bike will run strong all day long if I push start it just once I turn it off I need to push start it to get it going again.

I charged the battery for about 24hrs...didnt try to start it while havin the battery still connected to the charger...I know it will start if I have it jumped to my car battery.

What do I need to check on the starter solenoid?

This battery is maybe 2 months old too.
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Old 02-09-2006, 03:52 PM
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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

starter is junk, the starter motor is week which requires more CCA's thus is why it will start from a jump start. if ur 12v reg or stator was bad ur bike would run for an hour n die out, stater does not pump out enough amps to keep the bike going.
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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

Its not the battery cuz these bikes dont run without one. unlike cars the charging system on bikes wont run with out a battery. It definatly sounds like something with the starter though.
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starter is junk, the starter motor is week which requires more CCA's thus is why it will start from a jump start. if ur 12v reg or stator was bad ur bike would run for an hour n die out, stater does not pump out enough amps to keep the bike going.
So the starter or stator? Where is the starter motor?
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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

Im sure its not the stator. The starter motor is under the carbs ontop of the motor. You can see it best from the left side of the bike, behind the head and cylinders under the carbs. Kinda hard to describe.
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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

its just like a stater on a car and this is an F4i so its under the throttle bodies on left side of motor, it enguages a gear to turn ur flywheel.
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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

So you 100% sure its this and not maybe the starter relay box?

When I got the new battery the bike would start up right away sometimes then sometimes it would have a harder time...now it barely can turn over.
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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

replace which ever is cheapest first..
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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

Both cost about the same...don't want to waste cash again just like I might have on the battery and new rectifier.
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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

ok well test the starter voltage/amp

on top the battery should say somthing like 50CCA's which is cold cranking amps see if it burst those amps when u try n start the bike.
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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

dude its the rectifier. did u get that one in the mail yet? did u throw it in? my money is on the voltage regulator (rectifier)
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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

bike wouldn't stay running if the regulator/rectifier was trashed...
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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

Sounds like a stator problem. check your stator, you'll have to unplug the connector and get a service book and check what its sopposed to be at with a voltmeter.
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Goddamn got to get the voltometer again. Why cant this bike just work right!
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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

Originally Posted by Wheeliest
bike wouldn't stay running if the regulator/rectifier was trashed...
ya it will just wont charge the battery. i believe rectifiers take the alternating current (AC) from the alternator or whatever and converts it in to a direct current (DC) which must be kept constant in order to run the bike's systems AS WELL AS charge the battery. if the rectifier goes bad it bypasses the battery and ONLY goes through the electrical system.
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Re: f4i wont turnover but starts when pushed

if it was the rectifier the bike would only run for a short time cause I had it happen to my bike.

I say its the silinoid or the starter itself. I'd say try the silinoid first because it's easier to replace. it's right behind the battery and has two wires going to it(one from the starter and one from the Positive side of the battery.
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