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Old 06-03-2005, 09:44 PM
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staying in the balance point

How do I keep my bike in the balance point? I am in a staggered position and I can ride it 20-25 feet in the balance point before I let it down, cause I cant keep it there. Im not powering the wheelie cause the rpms stay constant and the bike falls back into the balance point. Its either the bike falls back to far and I hit the brake/let off the gas combo, or I start weaving and have to let it down. I am on a gs500 so I can only do first gear wheelies, I also pull the bike in to me instead of using straight arms. Should I stay on the gas and just use the brake and feather it the whole time or should I lean my body back more off the bike? This makes me mad cause I can wheelie a bicycle as far as I want and I can do combos on a 4 wheeler and ride the wheelie as far as I want. As soon as I can get a video I will post it so that will maybe help some. If you can help me then thanks.
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Re: staying in the balance point

use your body english and keep your arms straight. First gears pretty twichy so watch it.
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Old 06-03-2005, 11:54 PM
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Re: staying in the balance point

alright, Ill go out tomorrow and straighten my arms. would turning up my idle to 2500 work better, so the rpms wont drop as fast? Glad I have the gs500 or else I would be powering some wheelies. You cant power them far with this bike at all, only 40 horse so I am getting used to the balance point. Thanks for the help, now just if I had some people to ride with...
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Re: staying in the balance point

just takes practice,practice getting into balance point and adjust the wheelie as little as you can,the more you let off the more it dips down which will cause your revs to go up.smoothness is the key.
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sounds like your doing fine jus need a lil more seat time
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Re: staying in the balance point

First gear might be your problem, it may come up easier, but keeping it steady is a lot harder.. Im not saying it cant be done, but 2nd gear would be much smoother than 1st... IMO..
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Re: staying in the balance point

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First gear might be your problem, it may come up easier, but keeping it steady is a lot harder.. Im not saying it cant be done, but 2nd gear would be much smoother than 1st... IMO..
I am riding a gs500 it wont lift it in second. I would try in second if I could. Thanks for the help. I was thinking I just needed more practice but maybe thought it was something little that i was doing wrong. Thanks for the help
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Re: staying in the balance point

Dude, you got the right idea, and the *****... Your already more than half way there. If I were you, (If you can), get a bigger bike and you should be all set... I wonder if you could throw a sprocket on that thing? Good Luck and be safe!!!
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Re: staying in the balance point

u can deff put a bigger sprocket on it, u're gs will do just fine, keep it in first, and use engine brake and rear brake to keep it there... when u start to dip back a little bit, instead of chopping throttle and hitting brake,, just put some pressure on the brake... u'll hear the engine fight against it...might slow u down, but u'll stay up,... practice practice practice wear your ****, and get some vid
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Re: staying in the balance point

im actually borrowing a sprocket and a chain from this guy on gstwin.com. Nice people there, they lend things and hope you send it back in one peice. Its +9 so hopefully its not to much, my bike only does 45 in first. here are some pics. They are small but oh well
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Re: staying in the balance point

Looks like you're about where you need to be. Just try to concentrate on locking the throttle and using the brake to keep you from going too far back.

nice G-ride in the back ground too! lol

oh ya, and put about a 20 up sprocket on there and let me know how it works out. I've always wanted to do that to a GS! :YEAH
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Re: staying in the balance point

the car is for sale, pm me if you want it, its my bros actually, hes going in the military so hes sellin. thanks for all the help.
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Re: staying in the balance point

Try getting a hold of a guy on here named "showtime713".
That fool can rock a GS500 with stock gearing all day long!
He's from Houston and is always willing to give advise.....Good Luck!
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Re: staying in the balance point

pics look nice..rock that ****
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Re: staying in the balance point

thanks man, i flipped it today when i was practicing. I was rolling at about 5 mph and clutch it up and coasted it for a second and then i gave it some more throttle and because my chain is real loose, about 2 inches of play, it jerked and i didnt catch the rear brake fast enough so i thought i would run behind it and jump back on like i can do on a quad but that didnt work, it just 12 for about 5 feet and then fell straight down. Didnt do any damage except a dent in the tank. Oh well, it had to happen sometime, made me actually not so scared of it now. soon to come, a video.
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Re: staying in the balance point

Fix that chain, I was having similar problems and a new chain made it so much easier to wheelie, before it wouldn't adjust because when i let off the throttle the chain would have hard spots and skip the sprocket and wouldn't want give the bike power.

I find the easiest way to pull the wheel up from a stop is lean back with your arms locked as its coming up and once it hits bp you can move your body back over the front to keep the bike from going behind bp.
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Re: staying in the balance point

I went out tonight and adjusted the chain, Ill see how it works tomorrow, rahrahf2 I will try what you said. Thanks for all who helped, appreciate it.
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Re: staying in the balance point

practice and i guess just be steadier with the throttle/brake.... when you go past BP you dont have to chop the throttle hard and use the brake, just ease off the gas and tap the brake a little... that way you dont sway as much and your not droppin rpms alll the way down
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Re: staying in the balance point

you said you had problems with wobbles, lower the pressure in the rear a little, probably around 20-22 or so.
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Re: staying in the balance point

Originally Posted by bigbrother
Try getting a hold of a guy on here named "showtime713".
That fool can rock a GS500 with stock gearing all day long!
He's from Houston and is always willing to give advise.....Good Luck!
Yea, i ride with him all the time.

Another thing dude, you can bring it up in second gear on the GS. Joe and I do it all the time. It's just a matter of clutching and reving to pretty much redline, let go and have some fun. I'd work on gettting it up in second gear, cause it's a better gear to learn wheelies in, IMO.
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