LivingCanvas

i am getting comfortable enough on my bike now to where i want to start scraping seatstanders/spreaders/hc's WITHOUT a handbrake, but i was wondering if a have enough sprocket to learn this on.

I have a 929 with -1 +10.

Im sure its possible with this combo, but is it enough to LEARN on? i dont wanna try it and not have enough engine brake to pull me out of it. keep in mind my bike is also my only transpo, and Cali freeways are fast moving, so i dont wanna gear the pi$$ out of it. but im not oppose to compromising my drivability a little for the higher good. should i go to -2 +10? im also trying to avoid buying a new chain. i wish i could gear it more because im addicted to engine braking, but, waddya gonna do.

there is already a thread on HOW to hc scrape, so i dont need that advice, but if you wanna include some hints, that'd be cool too.

Thanks--
--Kendall

-nelson

i went up to a 73 tooyh rear and had to change my chain by getting a new one and using two master links and some of the old chain its perfect for engine braking any type of wheelie , i took it on the highway and couldnt go above 70 its a zx9 ithink tou gotta sacrifice one for the other ..

LivingCanvas

.......thanx for the reply, but you didnt really answer my question

Z-UNIT

in order to learn and not crash u eitheer need a hb or more gearing then u have, its def possible to do it with ur gearing...but like u said to learn i wud gear it mroe or hop on the train and mount a hb. u shud be able to scrape outa seat stander though. i was only +10 on my f4i and i clutched out seat stander from like 15....grantedi barley got out of it but i was goin slow.

LivingCanvas

....cool thanx, thats the kind of info i need........what gearing do you guys suggest as a bare minimum?

i was also thinking i would like a f4i or 636 for this because 600's inherently have more engine braking, but im broke, so ill stick with what i have for now

Kaotic

its possibly guy from twiztedactionz adrenlynjunky, does them almost with stock gearing..

catach42

he was -2 +5 on an f4i which is 14/51 and he said he was doin it waaay faster than he would have liked. on a 929 -1 +10 is i believe 15/53 so u actually have less gearing than he did. u could do it but u better be flying when u do or u wont get off the bar in hc. as far as seat scrapes i did those with just clutch on an r6 geared 14/48 which is right around wat u got so u shouldnt have much of a problem with those

NickIF

just do it

kidstunta

Thats easy to say when you dont commute on your stuntbike

LivingCanvas

i know man

BTW i like your 2o'clock avatar

LivingCanvas

thanx for the replies, and thanx kidstunta for the defense. so do you you guys think ill be cool with -2+10? what kinda RPM should i be coming in at?

BVRider1

your -1+10 now. going to -2 is not that more drastic. I'm -1+12. I don't know why you would commute on a "STUNT" bike.

Do it..and it's not like -2+10 is gonna help you NOT crash...it's just practice. I like staying high in the R's...I would try spreaders first b4 doing the highchair scrapes.

LivingCanvas

i commute on it because i HAVE to.

Thanx..........just gotta get up the ***** i guess

SAMBO

I think you will lose more rpms on having -2 in the front. You should stay -1 and go +15. You might be able to use your old chain if it has a lot of slack left over.

I used to be -2/+7 on my 929. I was in your shoes but i bit the bullet and ordered a -1/+21 from thrust company. After getting that set up, I'll never look back. **** is way to fun. And i also commute on my stuntbike and it ain't that bad.

LivingCanvas

yeah, im thinking of going like -1 +16 or so......just say *** it and hang out in the slow lane. what kind of rpm's do you turn at like 70mph with your set-up? here in SoCal 70 will only let me hang with the semi's in the slow lane (unless traffic is jammed like usual)

but wouldnt -2 +10 be almost like -1+15? my chain is adjusted all the way in, so no bigger back sprocket unless i get the whole set-up, which i could do i guess.

uh-oh, this has kinda turned into another damn 'how much gearing' thread. so, will this help with the HC scrapes?
thanx
--Kendall

melloyello

My first suggestion is buy you a cheap car that can be your spare transportation. Something that can get you back and forth to work once or twice a month. Then buy you some sprockets. If you drop the bike and you will, and your clutch lever snaps off or you bust an engine cover or something else, how are you going to drive it to work? Just something you might want to think about b/4 you go busting 12s. I am glad you want to do 'em. The more stunters the bigger the sport but you have to get to work somehow.

LivingCanvas

.......i can already 12 and **** right now, but yeah, ill prolly crash learning engine brake 12's..........ohwell, i dont give a ***

LivingCanvas

i just ordered a 60 tooth rear from moto-heaven (+17) and a stock front......im rock it for a little and see how i like it, then if i want more throw my one down on there. think thats good?

hyperryder

i put a 70 on my 929 an busted ont out the same day i got it

LivingCanvas

actually, cancelled the gears, getting the moto-heaven handbrake instead.

...does this mean im a cheater now?

actually this is my way of having my cake and eating it too

hopefully imma get an f4i some time and just gear that one

--Kendall