might as well just get hte full kit from HAI.. it comes with the adaptor, brake line and fittings.. its only $99 , shipping is the same for the kit or the adaptor I think.. thats only like.. £65 inc. shipping, the line and fittings itself will probably cost a bit from uk.. + more hassle..

I'm still waiting on my stuff from HAI.. hope it turns up soon..

 

sound like the britts are ripe for the pickins open a new shop making cages and acc you should get rich

 

Doubt it, theres only about 15 people who stunt in the whole of the UK

 

nah mate, i paid 5.99 for mine and got it there n then, but if you guys want to pay more then go for it

 

come on ive seen twenty in just one clip

 

well thats pretty much everyone then

 

thats funny

 

at least the scene in the uk is starting to grow now hopefully one day the scene will get really big.. :YEAH

 

weve been praying for the same thing here in the states and weve got thousand of stunters but its still pretty much a sub culture

 

I think eventually it'll go big.. and become a recognised sport.. FMX is starting to go big so I don't think stunt riding will be too far behind.. I think it's the street image that lets it down and holds it back, but I think the legal competition side of the sport will get more and more recognition over the coming years :YEAH

 

You gota be kidding me. The street image is exactly what draws people in, makes it accessible for anyone to take part.

Competition riding is corrupt and too political.

The street image will hold it back in terms of it becoming commercial but helps in getting more everyday people interested.

 

Maybe but stunt riding will NEVER be big from street riding... it's illegal and major sponsors and organises will never put their name to it.

I don't disagree about street drawing people in though, its definetly fun and thats how 99% of people start, including me...

 

I agree with you on that but first there needs to be a bigger market before big names will throw money at it.

At the end of the day they want something in return.

 

It's a shame the UK governement and legal issues hold the legal side of stunt riding back so much if there were more legal spots to ride at then the legal side could grow as well as the street side, more legal events and shows means more likely to get big name sponsors to take the sport further, we can only hope

 

I guess everyone just has too push their side of things a bit harder to help things happen in the future.

 

Oi thread ******! This thread is about HANDBRAKES. :p

Fact is, our government will never appreciate this sport, and legal spots will only emerge if we can get rich stunters who can provide a mass of concrete.

Sad but true.

 

Sort of, but each country in the world's different. From a video point of view street will probably always be king, but the number of people buying vids will probably stay about what it is now, or even continue to fall. In the last eight years I've watched DVD/vid sales plummet right through the floor - partly because you can download most things for free off the 'net now (and I must say thank you to all you ******* who pirate stunt vids for helping in the destruction of the stunt film industry) and also because 99.9% of DVDs that are released these days are complete *****.

The scene only really has one chance of real survival and that's to go more commercial (rather than completely selling out). That doesn't, however, mean competitions - for the most part that's a US thing. Unfortunately what the scene needs in most countries is well organised stunt shows, and that needs people with lots of money who are prepared to organise them, which is where the main problems start.

Venues are difficult to find, insurance is outrageous, there are few people who actually want to be organisors and the people who can help the most view the stunt scene as joyriding thieves who are no better than paedophiles. And then there's the lack of professionalism - whether that's riders, venues or organisors. You only have to look at the so-called World Championship. Ask Tony D what he thought of Donington. Or this year's TT where Drew Stone and the boys were royally screwed.

France is probably the only country where there's any real acceptance from the general public and any real professionalism within the scene, yet even there it can be a joke, too. Burns Day this year being another perfect example.

What really needs to happen is a handful of people in different countries to organise proper, professional shows that appeal to a broad number of people. It's not that hard to do, it just requires a little money and a lot of intelligent thought.

There's definitely an audience in the UK for a Burns Day style show (rather than comp, which I believe made Burns Day a shadow of its former self when they changed the format at the last one), and there's definitely an audience in the US and most European countries, too. But until someone in the UK finds the money to do it, nothing will change. And until someone in the US realises watching 30 riders doing circle after circle in tediously long competitions is not what the majority of people (including most stunt fans) want then nothing will change.

Burns Day used to attract something like 20,000 people. The real World Stunt Comp in the Czech Republic used to attract about 20,000 people, too. Something like 10,000 people watch the stunt shows at the TT every night for 4 nights.

The audience is there, the potential is there - what isn't there are slick run, professional shows...

 

Sorry Mark, for some bizarre reason I thought you were Mike Nicely...

 

off topic, but.

as an indication of the popularity of stunting - checked out NEC preview day.
The main halls was a ghost-town when the stuntshow was on in the arena bit!
VBSX Graham got best cheers in show too. The rest of the riders were FMX doing really good stuff, but G on the street bike got the crowd props.

Kids on our row were FREAKIN!!

 

What really needs to happen is a handful of people in different countries to organise proper, professional shows that appeal to a broad number of people. It's not that hard to do, it just requires a little money and a lot of intelligent thought.


I could have written this myself!

my team has public liability insurance and a small handful of hard fought legal spots.

This is not just about bustin 4 hours a day on the bike! its about going through the hardship of being put down, let down, screwed over and over again. Its about trying to gain acceptence only to be faced with pure unadulterated prejduice and ignorance - like any minority its only fuel is oppresion and the hunger to defeat that oppression and gain success and become established! this is only going to happen if the people involved are as strong and intelligent as the opposition it faces, if not stronger.

Like Mr Vegetable says there is an audience, a big one and i for one will try my hardest to tap into it!!!!!