U Asked for it you got it DRAMA
#1801
Re: U Asked for it you got it DRAMA
Like the Kids your age are getting now trying to hook up with a Jennifer looken Female!!!!
On your make get set go!!!! Life begins now. Go out and live your own experiences
On your make get set go!!!! Life begins now. Go out and live your own experiences
#1802
Re: U Asked for it you got it DRAMA
Originally Posted by Schwartz
Life begins now. Go out and live your own experiences
riiiight, and how am i supposed to do what keller has done with a M249 if i'm 16?
OH THAT'S RIGHT!!! I CAN'T!!!!
#1805
Re: U Asked for it you got it DRAMA
Originally Posted by GundamnitPete
riiiight, and how am i supposed to do what keller has done with a M249 if i'm 16?
OH THAT'S RIGHT!!! I CAN'T!!!!
OH THAT'S RIGHT!!! I CAN'T!!!!
Maybe a little respect for people that have lived there own experences and learned from that.
#1808
Re: U Asked for it you got it DRAMA
Originally Posted by Schwartz
Just don't expect to get what you can't give.
so when exactly did this go from a purposefully bash each other thread, to a serious one?
#1809
Re: U Asked for it you got it DRAMA
Originally Posted by Schwartz
why you busten peoples ***** that have lived it when in fact "You can't."
Maybe a little respect for people that have lived there own experences and learned from that.
maybe in a thread that's NOT called "Uasked for it you got it DRAMA"
#1814
Re: U Asked for it you got it DRAMA
Originally Posted by skillz954
I aprrieciate your opinion, but a 9mm has pleanty of stopping power. I read an article that said the shock of getting shot will drop a person, even if shot with a .22. Makes sense to me.....
Personally I think the whole large round arguement is similar to ***** envy....
Personally I think the whole large round arguement is similar to ***** envy....
Washington Times
November 22, 2005
Pg. 21
A Marine Reports From Iraq
By An anonymous Marine
Editor's note: There's nothing like word from the field to know what works, what doesn't and how the enemy's tactics are affecting our soldiers in battle. Below is one U.S. Marine's take on those questions, verified and relayed to us through his father, a retired Marine. We've withheld the Marine's name and his father's to spare them the inevitable political or institutional flap. Among the most interesting tidbits: Our Marine reports that servicemen are shocked at negative press coverage of the war, and they believe the United States is winning decisively -- but that the number of troops in the field should be bolstered. On equipment, our Marine thinks the older, battle-tested parts of the U.S. arsenal are the most useful equipment in the fight against insurgents. M-16s aren't much good, but "Ma Deuce" is, and the .45 pistol is highly coveted. Body armor has plusses and minuses.
Hello to all my fellow gunners, military buffs, veterans and interested guys. A couple of weekends ago I got to spend time with my son... [He] spent seven months at "Camp Blue Diamond" in Ramadi, a.k.a. "Fort Apache." He saw and did a lot. The following is what he told me about weapons, equipment, tactics and other miscellaneous information which may be of interest to you. Nothing is by any means classified. No politics here, just a Marine with a bird's eye view's opinions.
*The M-16 rifle: Thumbs down. Chronic jamming problems with the sand over there, which is like talcum powder. The sand is everywhere. You feel filthy two minutes after a shower. The M-4 carbine version is more popular because it's lighter and shorter, but it also has jamming problems. Marines like the ability to mount the various optical gunsights and weapons lights on the picatinny rails, but the weapon itself is not great in a desert environment. They all hate the 5.56mm (.223) round. Poor penetration on the cinderblock structure common over there and even torso hits cannot be reliably counted on to put the enemy down. Fun fact: Random autopsies on dead insurgents shows a high level of opiate use.
*The M243 SAW (squad assault weapon) .223 cal: Big thumbs down. Drum-fed light machine gun. Universally considered a piece of stuff. Chronic jamming problems, most of which require partial disassembly. That's fun in the middle of a firefight.
*The M9 Beretta 9mm: mixed bag. Good gun, performs well in a desert environment, but everyone hates the 9mm cartridge. The use of handguns for self-defense is actually fairly common. Same old story on the 9mm: Bad guys get hit multiple times but are still in the fight.
*Mossberg 12ga. Military shotgun: Works well and is used frequently for clearing houses, to good effect.
*The M240 Machine Gun: 7.62 Nato (.308) cal belt-fed machine gun: Thumbs up. Developed to replace the old M-60 -- what a beautiful weapon that was -- it is accurate, reliable and the 7.62 round puts 'em down. Originally developed as a vehicle-mounted weapon, more and more are being dismounted and taken into the field by infantry. The 7.62 round chews up the structure over there.
*The M2 .50 cal heavy machine gun: Thumbs way, way up. "Ma deuce" is still worth her considerable weight in gold. The ultimate fight-stopper, puts them in the dirt every time. The most coveted weapon in-theater.
*The .45 pistol: Thumbs up. Still the best pistol round out there. Everybody authorized to carry a sidearm is trying to get their hands on one. With few exceptions, it can reliably be expected to put 'em down with a torso hit. The special-ops guys -- who are doing most of the pistol work -- use the HK military model and supposedly love it. The old government model .45s are being re-issued en masse.
*The M-14: Thumbs up. It is being re-issued in bulk, mostly in a modified version to special-ops guys. Modifications include lightweight Kevlar stocks and low-power red dot or ACOG sights. Very reliable in the sandy environment, and people love the 7.62 round.
*The Barrett .50 cal sniper rifle: Thumbs way up. Spectacular range and accuracy and hits like a freight train. Used frequently to take out vehicle suicide bombers -- we actually stop a lot of them -- and barricaded enemies. Definitely here to stay.
*The M24 sniper rifle: Thumbs up. Mostly in 308 but some in 300 win mag. Heavily modified Remington 700s. Great performance. Snipers have been using them heavily to great effect. Rumor has it that a Marine sniper on his third tour in Anbar province has actually exceeded Carlos Hath****'s record for confirmed kills with over 100.
*The new body armor: Thumbs up. Relatively light at approximately six pounds and can reliably be expected to soak up small shrapnel and even stop an AK-47 round. The bad news: Hot as stuff to wear, almost unbearable in the summer heat, which averages over 120 degrees. Also, the enemy now goes for head shots whenever possible. All the bullstuff about the "old" body armor making our guys vulnerable to improvised-explosive devices was a non-starter. The IED explosions are enormous and body armor doesn't make any difference at all in most cases.
*Night Vision and Infrared Equipment: Thumbs way up. Spectacular performance. Our guys see in the dark and own the night, period. Very little enemy action after evening prayers. More and more of the enemy are being whacked at night during movement by our hunter-killer teams. We've all seen the videos.
*Lights: Thumbs up. Most of the weapon-mounted and personal lights are Surefires, and the troops love 'em. Invaluable for night urban operations. [Name redacted] carried a $34 Surefire G2 on a neck lanyard and loved it.
I can't help but notice that most of the good fighting weapons and ordnance are 50 or more years old. With all our technology, it's the World War II- and Vietnam-era weapons that everybody wants. The infantry fighting is frequent, up close and brutal. No quarter is given or shown.
Isn't amazing how the liberal media doesn't want us to see these things?
#1815
Re: U Asked for it you got it DRAMA
Niner that's funny I read that last week and remembered our convo, but I know I've read articles to the contrary on stopping power. But you'll see the 60mm is still the nut sack.....I miss the pig.....the new one is the M240......
#1820
Re: U Asked for it you got it DRAMA
Originally Posted by -Nasty-
hey judd why did u go home crying after that *** whooping u recived in HALO tonight?