"The Suburban tumbled down an embankment, ejecting most of its eight occupants. Five people in that vehicle were seriously injured; the other three sustained lesser harm. Only one was wearing a seat belt."


Damn, That is just insane!

hope they're doing okay. any update on the condition of these people?

can you fit 8 in a suburban?

 

I honestly feel bad for the people in the Suburban. Ya, they should have had their seatbelts on. At the same time, they did nothing wrong at all, were merely "innocent bystanders". The explorer hit them and pushed them off the road.

So let me get this straight. A 400 lb bike, cut off (when you cut a car off on a bike, trust me, you aren't gonna touch that f**ker or merge into it) a 4,000lb SUV forcing them to swerve? I doubt it was genuinely a forced move. . Why did the explorer swerve again? Inexperience more than likely.

also posted on same story from CNN
How does this relate to the story? Not at all, but i'm so happy they decided to throw this onto the end so they general public can get a better view of what really happened (insert sarcasm emote here). Gogo Swaying public opinion.

 

http://www.stuntusa.com/forums/showp...28&postcount=9

I live in Phoenix AZ and i see this **** every day. Granted i dont see pople on motorcycles killed everyday (thank god) but the stuff i see is outrageous. Pretty much everything that guy listed and more. I personally DO NOT ride in morning rush hour traffic. Been near killed more than 12 times. ive even had people get mad at me because they almost hit me. heh . I think the point here is not WHO is to blame for this specific accident, but WHAT can be learned from it. we all know that we are responsible enough not to get stupid on the street and if we do, the possibility of legal intervention exists, and wheter we choose to evade that at that point would be a personal descision, not a group descision as a whole. NOT EVERY RIDER runs from the cops. I personally dont run because I dont give myself a reason to. And as we all know there are people out there who make it their goal to run from the cops. what needs to happen is these "stunt riders" as they call themselves need to be found and educated. we can sit here and blame who we want, say what we want, but until someone does something about it its not going to end. im sure someone knows people like them mentioned in that story. lets take the focus off that story and focus on the fact. YOU know someone who does this on a regular basis. Take the time to get them to get off the street and do it. re: educate them. get them in the lot. i know everyone who stunts enjoys it. they need to be AROUND LONG ENUF to enjoy it though. time for US to start making a difference maybe (?) instead of letting the media make that choice for us?

 

fhhjfgws

 

I just had to highlight this...

"Sgt. Tommie Wilder of the St. Louis Police Department's traffic division said the "extreme motorcycle" fad began following a movie a few years back. "People emulate Hollywood," he said."

 

didnt the Ford Explorer have a recall on the tires. I say its the tires not the stunters.

 

uh... "Burn rubber, not your soul?" I can't think of any movies that hollywood has produced recently that would actually inspire us to emulate it.

 

It's very unfortunate what happened to the family. However, they should have been wearing their seatbelts. What about the "Click it or ticket" ****? Anyway, the mother in the Burban will be paralyzed from the chest down, the others are expected to recover. For those of you talking about the time and place to stunt, I agree, however, this WAS the best highway they probably could have chosen (not that any highways are good) out of the ones in the area. This is a brand new section of road, and hardly has ANY traffic on it even during rushour during the week. I just find it ironic a 16 year old was driving the striking vehicle and admitted to following the bikes from another highway several miles back.

 

**READ THIS**



Stunt cycling's allure raises alarm

By Jeremy Kohler
Of the Post-Dispatch
08/28/2004

"Cory Evans loves the wheelie-popping lifestyle of stunt cyclists. He reads the glossy biker magazines and has been searching ads for a racing cycle of his own.

Cory, 16, of Florissant, and the motorcycles he loves were at the center of a terrible crash that injured eight people on the Page Avenue Extension on Aug. 21. The incident had the St. Louis area buzzing last week about daredevils on bikes. Are they artists? Are they a menace? Do they have a right to expression, or should they be reined in?

Cory was at the wheel of his mother's Ford Explorer that Saturday night with four friends. They were headed toward the home of another friend in St. Charles County, and stopped about 7 p.m. at QuikTrip on Route 94 and Kisker Road.

Four gorgeous bikes were there. A Suzuki GSX-R750 in red and another in blue. Light, powerful, agile machines. With them were a lime-green Kawasaki Ninja and a black Honda.

"Hey, nice bikes," he told the riders, according to his mother, Tina Evans.

Cory's group was expected at their friend's nearby. Instead, they headed back east some 10 miles, eventually taking Highway 364, the Page Avenue Extension, back toward St. Louis.

Tina Evans, who provided this account - but would not let a reporter speak with her son - says she believes they were headed to pick up another friend.

Either by luck or by design, then, Cory stayed with the stunt bikes. Each rider pulled up on one wheel as they zipped toward the Missouri River, the sun sinking in the western sky.

It's a stunt seen ever more often on highways from coast to coast. So-called extreme biking has expanded in popularity; Hollywood has made stars out of stunt drivers. Even the historically staid Motor Cyclist magazine this month started a new publication, Super Streetbike, to reach the wheelie-popping crowd without causing its base of older readers to fret.

For adrenaline junkies, it's an affordable way to get their speed. The fastest bikes cost barely more than an economy car.

Cory "is into it," Tina Evans said. "He is wanting to get one."

The bikes were in the left lane, Cory's Ford Explorer in the center. At right was a Chevrolet Suburban with eight friends heading to a Lynyrd Skynyrd concert at UMB Bank Pavilion in Maryland Heights.

Exactly how the crash happened is still under investigation by the Missouri Highway Patrol. What is known is that the bikes cut to the right across two lanes, then exited the expressway at Upper Bottom Road. Witnesses told police that, while the bikers had been performing stunts, they were far enough ahead so that they didn't cut anyone off.

But, for some reason, when the bikes cut into the center lane, Cory cut over to the right lane and T-boned the Suburban.

"Oh . . . ," shouted the driver, Terry Woodson, 44, of O'Fallon, Mo. That's what one of his passengers, Todd Wenick, 41, of St. Charles, remembers.

Begging for life

The Suburban veered off the highway and rolled at least six times. Wenick remained inside the Suburban. So did Nicholas Woodson, 14, Terry's son.

Everyone else was thrown, including Wenick's wife, Jill Wenick, 40, and their son, Ryan, 25. Terry Woodson and his wife, Debra Woodson, 38, were thrown. So were Kimberly Gronek, 38, and her husband Mark Gronek, 44, of St. Charles.

Todd Wenick said he suffered a separated shoulder and injuries to his back, neck and knees. But he felt no pain.

"I asked Nick, 'You OK?' and he said, 'Yeah,'" Todd Wenick said. They crawled out a window.

The bodies were cast over a wide area. Nick found his mother, who said she couldn't feel or move. Jill Wenick was maybe 15 feet from her, covered in blood.

Todd Wenick found Ryan, who seemed unscathed. He escorted him uphill to the side of the road, where a couple stopped and said they would stay with him.

"I told him Mom's fine, but I needed to get back and get her," Wenick said. "I just prayed and begged for her life. I got her to talk. She opened her eyes. I just couldn't lose her. We've been together since the seventh grade."

No charges have been issued in the crash. Police say they don't know the identities of the bikers, but they want to find them. They could face charges for careless and imprudent driving - or worse.

"I'd like to wait and see what the police write up and what the witnesses say and if they ever catch these clowns," said St. Charles County Prosecuting Attorney Jack Banas.

Although some initial reports indicated that the motorcycles may have been accompanied by someone filming their stunts from a car, police now say they don't believe that was the case.

Stunt riders in St. Louis

When St. Louis area media outlets reported the accident, the story line was obvious: Those stunt cyclists you've seen around town? Some of them might have caused a serious crash.

Probably the area's best-known stunt drivers call themselves the Streetfighterz. They run a kiosk at South County Center, where they sell DVD recordings of stunts they've performed for the past five years. Most of the videos were shot on Interstate 55 between downtown St. Louis and south St. Louis County, using the Gateway Arch as a backdrop. One of their stunts includes a 14-mile-long wheelie.

The Streetfighterz say they have sold 70,000 videos, bringing in $1 million. They have myriad connections and sponsors. They're tight with a rock band, Sted-Fast, which includes the musician who created the beats and sounds behind most of Nelly's hits.

Sted-Fast performs the Streetfighterz theme song, "Ride On," and shows video featuring their stunts during live shows. A few TV news channels, too, played footage from a Streetfighterz video while reporting on the accident.

The exposure on the evening news compelled someone to write on the Streetfighterz's Internet site: "If you see a big, black Cadillac tooling down the highway, don't go @#%$ around flying past me and endangering everyone around you, because I guarantee as soon as I see you coming I'll swerve into your lane and knock your stupid *** off that Japanese piece of @#%$. That would be a great video!"

The threat came as a shock to the four members of Streetfighterz, who are used to adulation and the occasional peeved police officer. They say they weren't the four bikers on Highway 364. They resent the implication that they caused a crash and fled.

However, they freely admit to performing - and filming - their high-speed stunts on highways. They know it's illegal. They say police have issued them some 80 tickets since 1999, though only a few for actually performing stunts.

From basketball to bikes

Moreover, the Streetfighterz members reject the notion that they are either a danger or an undue distraction for motorists. There are plenty of potential distractions on the road, they say. Rude bumper stickers, for example. Gaudy sports cars. Scantily-clad women.

"If a naked lady is going down the road and you crash, you can't blame the naked lady," said one of the Streetfighterz, James Vaughn, 30, of south St. Louis County. "You gotta blame yourself."

Another member of the Streetfighterz, Dennis Cardwell, 26, of Arnold, said he can control his bike with one wheel in the air as well as most drivers can control their cars.

The Streetfighterz say they don't advocate stunt riding. In fact, they would rather no one else did it. But they acknowledge that the trend is taking off, thanks in part to their videos.

The foursome met playing basketball at the YMCA in South County and later started talking about their mutual love of motorcycles. The friendship turned into a competition. As each began to hone his skills, they started filming themselves on highways for training purposes.

Later on came the idea of selling the videos. Why do the stunts? Cardwell and Vaughn were asked. Because they can, they said. Today's bikes are lighter and quicker than those of yesteryear. The stunts are exciting. People like them. If their fans can't do the stunts, they said, they want to see experts like them doing them.

"They like what they do," said the group's lawyer, Les Steinberg. "But there is no way to do it without breaking the law."

The survivors in the Suburban are too badly hurt to compare notes about the crash. Todd Wenick said his wife suffered two broken hips and serious facial injuries. Ryan Wenick has vertebrae injuries, bruises to his lungs and heart, a broken arm and a concussion.

Todd Wenick said he and Terry Woodson have met frequently at St. John's Mercy Medical Center in Creve Coeur, where both of their wives are hospitalized.

The extent of injuries to the others were unavailable because of medical privacy laws, but at least Mark Gronek, too, remained hospitalized as of Friday.

Todd Wenick said he feels the wheelie-popping cyclists caused a diversion, and said he hates to see more youths doing stunts on motorcycles.

So, too, does Tina Evans, Cory's mother.

"I'm trying to keep an open mind," she said. "I'm afraid for my son to get (a motorcycle) now.

"All I know is they were doing tricks," she said. "I don't think they should be doing tricks on the highway. It's distracting and should be illegal. There is a place for that out in the country where there are not a lot of people."

Tim Bryant of the Post-Dispatch contributed to this report.

Reporter Jeremy Kohler
E-mail: jkohler@post-dispatch.com
Phone: 314-241-9435 "

 

omfg



i think after this incedent the little phaqer shounldn't be aloud to even look at another bike !!!


the key word being "witnesses "


ok evebody say it with me now "who"s at fault!!!!!


why not not make the mom responseable???? after all she did hand her son the keys to the "Explorer"and he wasn't where he said he was ????


eat mana$$ Jack and like it !!



well that rules out the third gunman on the grassie knoll !!!




well said

i think that artical was nice and informing, it seems cut and dry the kid was at fault, and the STL police are just looking for a reason to once again nail a sport rider my

 

I suppose lynyrd Skynyrd will get blamed next

 

The defense rests? As its been said many times. The 16 year old driver was too inexperienced to handle the situation, causing the accident. He needs a scapegoat, the bikes doing tricks works!

 

Now we wait for the apology from the cops and the media. LMAO!!!!

 

don't hold your breath :YEAH