Robbie

To me this was said very well...think about it.

naturalborn

I asked shugga what the definition of sickest trick was and he said " new sickest trick" but to me the definition of sickest trick has always been "a trick never been done before", We entered and I am not saying that we should have won or anything but if we are going on crowd response then we should have been more informed on the judging, also for the simple fact that the watchtower was done in texas, september 2003, to me that trick is not NEW, don't get me wrong I like bar tricks and I think that is sick, but it does not fit the definition of "NEW SICKEST TRICK" case closed.........
Not only was rodg robbed but we all were it was not judged accordingly, next time I know to ask how we are gonna be judged before I put my $ down

Ryan S

i would agree....the reason why payouts are small IS because people don't show up to the events!! But hey, i guess it's better to stay on the streets and ride by yourselves and bore the hell out of the same 20 guys that ride to the spot and watch you practice, right???


i love how people sit there and bitch about stuff and then they dont even show up!! it's a competition, yes, but it's also a place to meet other riders and have a good time....and yeah, there were some very big names there to learn from.

Jope

"I could diss the crowd, **** the judges off, and still win..." - Qwel


So much for that

I wasn't there so I can't really say what was better, SOUNDS like they need a "Sickest and most technical trick" contest tho

chevy

how about an outsiders insight? First off i am not a stunter.(might call me a groupie) ILOVE that tight @ss $**** you people be rockin.Correct me if i'm not using prop words here.I was at the practice for awhile and enjoyed it very much.(the fat _uck on the dinosur orange crust induced yamaha).Now i saw that watchtower there and everyone including stunters gave a shot at that trick! Yet a couple of peeps were scraping bars and not so much as a sound. Did not attened saturdays show but was there Sun.late. So i did not witness the 6 scrape in 200 or the watchtower. but in my eyes i enjoy watching watch tower over scrapes any day of the week. As was said on post above scrapes look like **** from the stands,(i am NOT cutting anyone done here at all,I'm NOT a stunter remember) But scrapes frm stands look very uncontroled.NOW i been put in my place as to the technical difficulty of multiple scrapes, I will still use and browes this fourm though AND MY HATS OFF TO ALL STUNTERS,right or wrong beginer or pro ,you all do some crazy @ss $hit,just keep it real.

WelePro

Well said...........

Oktz Kerry

this is going to be the same problem over and over. i know it's gotta be hard on both parties[stunters/event staff].in one hand you have the riders and without them there's one show for the crowd to see, and without the crowd, there's no money in the stands to be made. the crowd is the key in sponsors eyes. with every show their hoping that a viewer will purchase a bike,helmet,cage,12 bar,food,shirts,dvds etc... and whatever else he/she might have seen at the show and go out and start practicing the tricks he/she had seen the riders doing at the event. inturn the bike manufactors make money, the cage/bar manufactors make money, food stands so on so on, which would allow the companies to get bigger and have more money to put towards their team riders[sponsored riders] and that's a good thing. now i think the event judges shouldn't let outside parties[the fans] judge the technical parts of the comp, but maybe let them know that there is an event[craziest motherf@#ker on a bike contest] that is going to be judged only by the crowd. that way the stunters know that the crowds are judging that contest, and it becomes a showman ship event rather than a technical one. just my opinion maybe i'm wrong. i think that it sucks that a 6 time hc scrape wouldn't beat a watchtower but at the same time i hope that it was called more for the bigger picture then a favortism type of call. maybe we should look at motocross trick contest and see how they do things, cause it looks like they got their s@#t together[sponsors/riders/money]...again just my opinion.

Ryan S

this industry will continue to grow.....nobody can deny that fact.

-Rodger-

thanks for the input ya'll. and to put the nail in the coffin here are a few final points to prove the bs that took place.

1st I have no handbrake

2nd 3 of the 5 judges are ex-stuntriders from Chicagoland that turned stunt groupies after realizing they are incapable of keeping up w/ the pace. they had no place judging a competition, but since there friends of almighty shugga they were put in a position they do not qualify for

3rd a watchtower is not a new trick

4th my run was the 1st time anyone at the track saw me ride, so it's not like I was rocking/practiticing all morning

5th the crowd was not judging the competition so who cares how they reacted. VMC got the loudest yells during the pro team comp, and they didn't win.

6th J beats did not tap tail 20 times earlier in the day, he blew his motor during his run in pro freestyle. I know this because he stayed at my crib and would have mentioned said 20 scrapes. robbie your a lying ******.


I am pissed off still. 3 days after the fact. I risked life and limb to execute a ground breaking stunt to get beat by a bar trick the crowd judged. BAR TRICKS ARE NOT HARD YOU *******!!! and to prove it I'll inform you that kid can't even get a manual car into reverse (i had to pull merk's impala out of the driveway for him) bwahahaha



p.s. there will be retaliation. i promise you that

-Rodger-

you best laugh while you can still smile w/ teeth in your mouth

naturalborn

good point about the judging, stunt wars was a good test of showing how the judges stuck to what they said from the start, they said to win you had to execute all your tricks and if you dropped your bike you were probally not gonna win, point blank, the morale to the story is that there needs to be clear judgin rules posted before the competition and that way if you don't like the judging don't enter that way there will not so much b**ching

godslayer

[RANT]
Yep. Attendance was way too low, and as a sponsor of the event I myself am very pissed at the turnout. Teams/Stunters showed up so that was good. But there were not enough spectators. Period. We were basically $10,000 short of the break-even point on ticket sales/entry fees and that not only means that I lost all the money and time my group put into the event, but trying to do this event a third time is going to be a next-to-impossible sale. And with the attitude of f*ck the crowd when it comes to any contest how do you try to win sponsors back? I'd love to keep doing this for the sport, but if I cant at least come out with a couple bucks to break even then what incentive do I have? You wanna know how much loot Shugg's came out of the track with last night?! Nothing.

And if, as a stunter, you think competitions are a waste of time and that staying in your little spot is more worth your while, fine. If you, as a stunter, think it is not worth risking injury while at a competition where money is being paid out and that risking injury while at your spot is completely different, fine. A competition is not only about money it is about advertising yourself and picking up more sponsors. If it all just for the love of the game, then dont be a hypocrite and try to sell yourself through video's, shirt's, or any type of paid show because you have already made it clear that you are better off on a deserted road where nobody can see you.

This is aimed at no one in particular but I know the drama queens are circling above waiting to yell "hater" as they do everytime someone sees things differently.
[/RANT]


BTW, thanks again to the teams that did show up to compete and/or mingle. If there are any constructive criticism's or suggestions please post them up. Maybe things can be ironed out for a show down the road. :YEAH

Robbie

STFU...stop with ur lame internet threats...you sound like tootsie roll licker

XPnugget

Pic of the week right there...

Sonicjay

Not to mention fill seats to supply payouts!

off topic, but thanks for hosting this gig bro; I had a blast!

inolen

But, on the flipside, stunters spending their time/money should be rewarded properly. The crowd will care **** all about who won within 30 mins of going home.

You gotta look at the stunter to spectator ratio.
Say it's 1 to 10. Lose 1 stunter, lose 10 spectators. Lose 1 spectator, you don't really lose a stunter.

Losing 1 spectator due to being mad at a judgement (which will honestly probably not even happen, it will just lead to more gossip and spreading of the event) loses say $20. **** of a stunter, possibly resulting in pissing off his team/friends will lose you not only those entry fees, but it will as well gradually lose spectators (noone wants to watch just 2 people ride).

-Rodger-

lame threats huh?

keep on hatin' your only fuelling the fire. look you can see it in my eyes



btw this is not the first time biased ******* in the industry have ****ed me out of money I earned. sorry for standing up for myself in one of the most detrimental situations of my riding career. how am I supposed to win? backflip off of a 2mph watchtower, wait a minute that's easier than a ...

:fugoff

Robbie

im not hatin or the hater...i told ya 5 times i scored ya higher...so stop ur bitchin with me

RedlineJimmy

Everything else has been said but this: Stop being such a pansey a$s sore loser .

TILLER

Remember when it was fun to just ride, hang with your boys and chill.. now its a bitch & drama fest. Im sure Rodg isnt the only 1 that has lost a comp and thought they did better, but for all the people bitching and calling BS on the judging.. get your asses out there and judge, sitting in the stands is way easier than picking apart a run with some of the best stunters in the world.