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Old 10-07-2002 | 08:52 PM
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What is a good software to use to edit videos? I finally have access to a digi cam and I'd like to try to put together a couple of short videos. Baker, I'm sure you can answer this.
Old 10-07-2002 | 09:27 PM
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I will try my best....

simple flow of connection here..........

computer---firewire card (1 or 3 port)---camera (DV or Hi-8) with a firewire connection.

Now that we have the following above. How fast is your computer? how much Ram - Memory do you have? How much of a hard drive space do you have?

Once you have all ready to run, its time to capture the video from your source (camera). Its always going to capture in .AVI format. ( this is uncompressed data). Now that you have a **** load of .AVI's and alot of space taken up on your hard drive its time to use a program such as Adobe premirer 6 or some program your skillz may be used for until you get better at editing.

Once you have your final cut video its time to render that video with all your transitions and overlays ...effects etc into .AVI again then into a format that you want for the web (I prefer .WMV because all users on PC have windows player) Mpeg gets crazy and some pc users won't have the codecs needed to play the videos. The higher picture quality gets larger in size,, i use 1meg encode rate for good quailty. I hate people who use 256k or 512k on encode rate because the quailty sucks!!! LOL

Feel free to let me know if you need anything. I have tons of software from beginner to expert. All free of course because your a stunterlife member...lol

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Old 10-08-2002 | 12:48 AM
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Thanks for the help Baker. I have a digital camera that has a usb cord so I can upload the videos as avi. files straight from the camera. I already have some stored on my hard drive. So what software do you think I need to edit and splice them into one video and add music and stuff. I'm not trying to make professional movies, just something worth watching.
Old 10-08-2002 | 01:09 AM
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Just use adobe premiere ..... there are a couple main tracks for you to use with a transition track inbetween .... Just **** around for a while ....try new transitions and allll that ... Eventually it will come mmuch fastter and easier to do.. I have bbeeen doing this editing thing for just over a year and I have gotten pretty good ..so i am sure you could get it too ....Be prepared for time to flyyyyyyyy when you are making videos... 6 hours will pass and it will feel like 1 hahaha
Old 10-08-2002 | 08:12 AM
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OK I don't use Premire....my secret is Sonic Foundry Vegas Video 3.0 with Spice master filters! To those who I have declined to tell the Baker secret its no longer ......

For me i learned by just playing around... You can do anything with editing ..the sky is the limit as long as your imagination is for being creative. A 6 1/2 minute video would take me anywhere from 22+ hours to who knows ...........the more work the more time. LOL

My advice get firewire connection its much faster! The PCI firewire card is like 35 bucks. I have Premire 6.0 & 6.5 (Thanks to Fish for 6.5) Sonic Vegas Video 2.0g & 3.0, MGI video Wave and Xing encoder - player...and more.

email me and I will give ya access to my server for your download pleassure..LOL 40 gigs of hacked / cracked files ALL OS systems either cracked or corp copies.
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Old 10-08-2002 | 09:54 AM
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i have been using Pinnicale

not sure how good it is compared to others, but that is what i have been using

and you are right baker, i sit down and hours go by,
in the last two weeks i have been sick and in that time I spent well over 100 hours in at editting!

i dont use it to make mpegs, i only use it to render and then put it back to tape
Old 10-08-2002 | 10:13 AM
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yo i sent u an email LEMME IN!!!!1
Old 10-08-2002 | 06:33 PM
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Ok brothers I got 6 + emails for questions & software....I will be honest I have been very busy lately with work and all...I will get back to each of you very very soon! I PROMISE!!

Server problems i see.....
Old 10-08-2002 | 06:55 PM
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Adobe Premiere 6.0

Just make sure you have a good month or two to learn the software. Once you get it down it gets pretty darn addicting! Also, try to limit the amount of transitions .
Old 10-08-2002 | 07:53 PM
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I use Adobe premiere 6....its actually not that hard to learn...they have tons of online tutuorials to show you how to do stuff.

I also have Avid Xpress, supposed to be a damn good program should be for the price tag of 3000...its a smaller program of avid media composer. the only problem is i use windows XP home edition and from what ive read its not compatible with xp home only runs on windows 2000.....so i havent gotten a chance to use it.

Has anyone else ever used it?
Old 10-09-2002 | 04:21 AM
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Once you have all ready to run, its time to capture the video from your source (camera). Its always going to capture in .AVI format. ( this is uncompressed data).
this isn't completely true-my friends do all my filming and recording-but i do all the editing and when they capture it-it's always in .wmv format. (we use a cannon digital-that might have something to do with it) I use Vegas Video 3.0 too cause it brings .wmv files in directly, plus i got it for free..
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Ok ..please explain your capture into .WMV because we can agree that that is compressed data ..correct? So it captures it as raw data (.avi) then renders it into .wmv? or does it capture it into a raw data (.avi) format then you choose to render it as .wmv? I don't see how anyone would want captured compressed data while trying to edit those files using any editing software.

I use a Sony TRV11 DV camera, both Adobe and Vegas capture it in .AVI, even XP Pro OS will capture it in .avi. Prove me wrong please because I don't see the sense in why someone would want to capture a compressed data file and then edit it in time lines. Maybe I'm confused...LOL

There is MPEG II capture now. But not feesable for the technology...still compressed data. The best format is Uncompressed data (.avi)

Hell I'm running over to my desktop now to see if I can capture it in .wmv.....(Thinking how the hell am i going to that..LOL)

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Old 10-09-2002 | 09:14 AM
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What kind of Canon ie model? My camera is also DV..most are now a days. Are you sure it captures into .wmv? If so, please show me how through vegas 3.0. The only way I see that possible is if your source is .wmv format or like mpeg 2 format then yes it should capture what the source is....

What kind of capture card are you using? This could be another reason that this might be possible...i really doubt it unless its something new. I use a simple 3 port firewire card and using the vegas capture program for .avi

Sorry for all the questions, but you quoted me to be not entirely correct in my statement and when I'm wrong I'm the first person to admit it. Great conversation post. I'm tired...............

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Old 10-09-2002 | 11:03 PM
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burp...

Big balla............? I'm anxious to know.
Old 10-09-2002 | 11:18 PM
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capture in .wmv

first off-i wanna ask if you did all the sbfreaks online videos?
i see baker all over them-i assume this is who i'm talking to-
if it is-your **** is off the hook-

anyway, i talked to my camera guy(actually my friend who borrowed his frat. bros. digital-still don't know what model)-he uses a dual 4pin connector from his camera to his roomates laptop(were pro's you know) and captures in windows movie maker. then he sends it to me and i import it as is-in .wmv format-for high quality(broadband768bps) is about 2megs/minute of film. works great-i never have to swap formats-am i doing it wrong?-

i just upgraded my dinosaur from 40MRAM to 128M so now i can finnaly preview before i save a movie-before i was just listening to the music-stoping it when i need to and then editing the clip on the timeline. i just got vegas video the other day-so i'm still new to having tons of editiing options-i'm like a kid in a candy store-hit me back-
Old 10-10-2002 | 07:42 AM
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Yes, this is -Baker- from SBFreaks. Almost 90% of those vids are of my creation at www.sbfreaks.com/media_videos.htm

Thank you kindly for your comment about the videos being off the hook. I'm really not that creative, but its a passion to make you guys (The stunners) as famous as I can possible.

I taught myself everything and I'm still a newbie... If I can do this you can too, but better!

You know what thinking about it....Windows Movie Maker will capture it as a .wmv at least that would make sense being windows, but I'm thinking it must capture it as a temp .avi file then through the preferences or the default of the program it will create it as a .wmv file...hmm I have never used this program.

The reason most don't use this because your limited to a certain program...ie windows movie maker. Wmv is highly compressed like your MP3 files. I have never used Windows movie maker so I might be talking out my ***...lol

If you make a video using your formats and style..thats great! Your doing nothing wrong..remember I'm a newbie too. I would say explore the options of other programs to give you a scope of skills when it comes to editing.

LEARN AFTER EFFECTS!!!...thats tuff, but would be off the hook for editing in videos.

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CPU AMD 1800 (1.53ghz)
M/B ASUS A7V333
Ram 512 pc 2700 @ 333mhz on the ram
HD ata 133 Maxtor 80- gig
ata 133 Maxtor 30- gig
Video G-force ti200 64 meg DDR
Sound blaster live

TRV11 ---> using firewire---> to a 3 port PCI card---> and I use the vegas video 3.0 to capture through the program and edit the .avi files through the program as well. Once i have edited all my captured .avi files into one big video and massive timelines of sounds, videos, transitions slow, fast etc timelines I then render the whole edited version once to .avi (BIG) then render that .avi to whatever format I need ie mpeg, wmv, mpeg2, real player etc...

I noticed this provides me the best possible quality into my final format which is most of the time now .wmv.

I hope some of this information helps others. This is really hard to explain thorugh typing which I HATE!!!!!!

Props to all the video editors out there trying to make stunners famous!!! Keep up the good work.

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Old 10-11-2002 | 12:45 AM
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you got some badass hardware there-I still don't know exactly how we import the file directly from the camera in .wmv-so this weekend my friends are renting an airplane to go and shoot some film out at our secret local and i'm gonna watch him capture it.

another reason i don't use .avi files is cause there freakin' huge-

bye the way-my cpu is:

1996 Packard Bell Multimedia 730
266 (II) processor
64M RAM @100mhz 4.13 Gig hard drive
got more jiz on the keyboard than a backyard gangbang...lol

Do you know alot about cpu's? cause i just put a 128M card on top of a 32 bit card and it only registers 64 cause my ****'s so old-i don't know how to get the motherboard update-even Packard
Bell aint got it-i upgraded so i could see the preview screen while i edit-other wise the sound plays fine and the video is delayed and skips frames-makes it a bitch to time out transitions

Baker-you sound like one cool ****'-i wish we had more people like you around here instead of a bunch of Patrick Stephens wannabe's-
Old 10-11-2002 | 01:57 AM
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what do you use to convert the .avi into an mpeg or whatever? Do you use adobe?
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BigBalla,

Thanks for your compliment! I am a good person to all because life is short...I value people first and try to share my knowledge with others as they need it or want it.

Dude, I have the hook ups on computers like major power..LOL I can't tell ya on here but its enough to make ya **** ur pants. My kids 10 and 13 have a 2.0ghz computer...LOL

i just put a 128M card on top of a 32 bit card and it only registers 64 cause my ****'s so old-i don't know how to get the motherboard update-even Packard
Are we talking about the video card? If so, go into your bios...(while booting up your pc tap the delete key until a bios windows comes up) each bios is very different given the maker of the board (chipset). Look for video aperture or anything that says about the video...it may have a number next to that lets you select different options like 32, 64, 128. The worst thing that can happen while playing with your bios is your pc might freeze or not boot up. If this happens simply re-boot and go back to your bios and set it back to where it was.


Sellout,

what do you use to convert the .avi into an mpeg or whatever? Do you use adobe?
I use Vegas video 3.0 to capture from my TRV11 camera that is connected through firewire and I edit using Vegas Video and Spice master filters if needed. I use Adobe to send the finished video thats in .avi format back to my camera through the firewire connection if I were to publish this as a marketed video.

Or
I use the final video thats in .avi and render it to a format that I am going to use on the net. I choose .wmv because its small, all users can view it (PC must be at least 350mhz and broadband connection), great quailty at 1mb, easy to stream to the user. Mpeg or divx is too much for some users to understand...LOL and most don't have the codecs for it...

Hope this helps you guys.
Old 10-11-2002 | 02:07 PM
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You're going to need a little more computer than that.. It has to be fast as hell to make / render your projects seemlessly. I tried that VEGas video last night.... It has it's things I dont like and some cool effects that adobe doesnt have.... But I think it captures video a little better than adobe( do you think so BAKER?) I think from now on I am going to use both ..back and forth ..... I am so used to using adobe ... i hate trying to learn a new program .. hey BAKER do you know where i can find a better encoder? I am one of those guys you hate that encodes at 512 hahaa ..BUt it's the highest my EZ cleaner let's me do! I need something better ....



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