Tenny

thati s horribly stupid. unless you are copying exactly it will never stand up in court. look at forks? there are 100 of different types of forks and they are all roughyl the same design.

ROB OUTERMOST

i think thats sucks, theres always gonna be competition in every product on the market, i dont see why they are gettig all hurt. business is business

Kyle_PBZ

It is a fact. I talked to Jeff at MXD and he got a letter from FI's patent attorney to stop making them. Total BS! I don't think it will hold up either.

StuntRagz Chris

i agree and disagree....i mean after all if you came up with the idea you would be upset if people were copying you,an exact replica would be bullshit; however i do not see a problem with someone taking your idea and adding modification and improving it. it is healthy for the business. after all crash bars have been on harleys for sometime.

KrazyKris750

Total I can't believe this is true . FI claim that they want the sport to move foward but they pull something like this . This sport has turned into a business and you guys at FI are raking in good money from it . Well in business you have competition and you have to make your product better(or a better price)to compete . Not sue people cause you were the first to mass produce a certain product Didn't care for FI before cause of there high priced cages...IMO...but this takes the cake

f4rider

That's a load of crap. If FI keeps othere companys from selling cages, someone should publish very detailed plans (with all the measurements) for building your own cage, specific to each bike. Then stunters will have another option. Instead of paying like 400 for a cage, you could easily build your own for about $30

MikeM

Bike have had crash cages since the 60s or 70s.

f4rider

Hey i just thougt of something. Even with the patent, wouldn't you be able to sell all of the parts for the cage (tubing that is bent and cut to length, and all of the bolts) so that the buyer only needs to mount and weld them together?

cr6

905 rocks.... enough said and the company stands behind their products...

GSE_Anthony

Come on guys this thread isn't about if one cage is better or worse than another, it's about a company taking action against others for building a similar product.
It is obvious from the answers above that the question was answered and they are trying to stop others from making their product, but more important I think is why are they doing this?
I mean like someone else said, if someone is out there making an exact duplicate of a product that they designed, then they have every right to want that stopped. But there is no reason to go after a company that makes something they call a cage just because it is called a cage. Using the F.I. and the 905 just for example, they are worlds apart from each other, there can't be any confusion that these are 2 different products that just are built for a similar purpose.
I hope their legal actions are only being addressed toward someone making the same exact product they have been making for so long because if not they can't win and shouldn't.
If that was the case than as soon as the first company to ever make sliders and put a patent on them did so, there would never have been so many companys making variations of the same product.

inolen

The funny thing, when I first talked to aaron at 905, he said they didn't even know about FI while designing their cage. And MXD is a copy of 905 with sliders, right? Sounds like a load of ****.

JPratt

:YEAH

Took the words right out of my mouth... I need to make some money, so Im going to try and come up with a stunt and see if I can get that **** patented.. And if I see anybody doing it, I'll see you in court sucka's Time to get paid and stop working this 9to5 bullshit

Same **** goes for people that make rollbars/rollcages for cars. Alot of them look exactly alike, but nobody gets sued over it. But whatever, do ya thang..

Peyton

I just found this on e-bay, now this look like a rippoff http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=35560

JPratt

peyton, that looks like the real deal to me. And the seller is from Austin y0..

Mikie

I read a thread sometime back where Tim from FI said they had submitted copies of previous/current cage designs to the patent offices. He mention a cage design with limited shin space, maybe a hint that they previously had a cage design like 905. In light of that, I think that maybe 905 would have something to worry about.. but truthfully 905 should submit their design also. From a business aspect, they should all cover their asses with patents. my

GSE_Anthony

Peyton, the ad specifically says it is an F.I. cage they are selling. Nothing wrong with that.

Peyton

Then if it is F.I. then whats up with the web site they list -- www.stuntme.com

felonyfreestyle

hes right, im in a buisness law class and i got a test next thurs over monopoly laws and all that ish dealing with fair comp. nothin will happen, trying to sue every cage maker out there will be a very time and money consuming event, if theyre smart fi will drop it

felonyfreestyle

im not sure if the cages are patented or patent pending, if its pending it dont mean ****, if its pending i say we all make fi cages for ourselves LOL LOL

FearlessGeo

Isn't it true that the older bikes, which had big loops over the engine be considered a type of cage? If so is F.I. going after Honda Kawaski, Suzuki, and Yamaha? I say just drop it let everyone do there own thing. This could end up costing them in the long run. I know my lawyers are big dollaz