mekrew

im with him too but damn your yelling

i seriously dont see what the deal is with these hp wars ..... omg u have 2 more hp than me OMG you have the BEST bike out ...... pffft

omg i hit 162hp ya thats at what 1400rpm ..... so pretty much like someone said its the curve that matters i dont get why people hp battle ... just get a bike u like and rip on it who cares if it has 5-10 more hp than the other brand ....

btw ..... gsxr thou will ALWAYS rape a r1 .. **** suzuki can give yamaha 10 more hp and still lose .. r1s dont make me go get that gsxr750 to put u in check

FTPstunna

R1

punisherzx12r

can you NOT read

i think you took ther name of the web site a lil to literally, and calm the eff down with the huge type

punisherzx12r

did anyone see me talkin **** like "my bike has more hp then yours" uh, no
if 4 bikes all are the same price, wouldn't you want to buy the one with the most HP, or the one that performed the best, i meen if your not worried about HP, go stunt a ****in dirt bike.
i got a ZX12 with work done sittin in my basement, if i wanted a HP argument i would bring up my 178 rear wheel HP machine i already have.
but thats not the case, we are talkin bout new machines commin out, and what would be the best buy for different reasons

and a GSXR could give a R1 10 hp and still win, i'll take that bet

bler

haha 'usable hp'... you guys barley even use 100 horses, so whats the difference in 5-10 gonna be to anyone that stunts ? you only need like 70-80hp to get the bike up, and then after that... whats the extra hp gonna give you for stunting ?

only people that are really going to get ANY benefit from it are the people who RACE these bikes... that and the number junkies who think that they are a better rider because their bike makes XX number more HP then yours :rolleyes

it's the rider, not the bike.. I watched my friend rip up some of the top WSMC racers on a Husq MOTARD (~600cc) and they were running gixer 1000's..

FTPstunna

I can take liter bikes at the track on my R6, all in the rider!

punisherzx12r

very true, but would you ever say, "no i got eneough HP, i don't need any more"

the new bikes a crazy, the 10R is almost as light as an R6 but with 50 more HP

Jope

cool bro, **** hell yeah HP :YEAH :YEAH, by the way, how are those circle wheelies coming along??? did you mastered them yet?? maybe if you add a few horses to your bike you'll get them down faster.

TRH_13

I couldn't agree more. I think we all should look at torque output a lot more on this particular site (STUNT-life) and at what RPM's the top torque-figure comes in to play. The lower the RPM's and the higher the torque number, the better for stuntin'. That's why twins stomp on 4-cylinder bikes when it comes to "hoistin' it up". The Buell XB12's only have about 100 HP but almost as much torque as the new CBR 1000RR (and more than the new R1) and this at much lower RPM's. I think for stuntin' the Buell makes the most sense of any bike I know. Too bad it's so "single purpose" and the Japs look much better + other advantages.
I'll be havin' the new Fireblade please, sir.

fabes

the R1 is going to own 2004


R1 all the way

punisherzx12r

is english your first language???????????

Jope

why do you ask?

FTPstunna

Im w/ Fabes!!! R1 Biatttttch!!!

bler

yes, but people are so ignorant that they don't realize that torque means more to stunters then huge hp numbers.. they are still on the 'more HP, better bike' mentality that most of america has with everything (bigger = better)..

no one even considers engine placement, weight, CG or frame design witch relates to stunting 10x more then how much HP a bike makes..

I know someone that stunts a SV650 for this reason (and it's dirtcheap for a bran new one and makes more torque then any bike in it's class..)

jonjones

buell, honda, kawi, suzuki, yamaha, who cares. buy what you like and stunt, or race, the sh*t out of it.

punisherzx12r

you guys act like HP and torque are completely separate things
HP is a function of torque

Rotational mass, is another important item, if you want to get technical.......

Sillyneck

I think my 02 gixxer 750 has the most power in the world. That thang got a hemi?

TRH_13

Yes, that is true.
HP=torque X RPM and that's where the 4-cylinder bikes have an advantage over the twins, because they can handle more RPM's.
All I'm saying is that all that HP turns some people away from some bikes with less power but with other advantages towards stuntin'.
what I said about the Buell for instance and to give another example:
Take my favourite, the New 2004 'Blade. It's got some awsome power but because of the mass centralisation and the longer swingarm it will be a more difficult bike to stunt than the first blades that only had some 120 HP.
Don't get me wrong, I love the big HP bikes but I tend to look at the whole bike instead of just the HP.

By the way, see if you can get hold of the MACH 3 DVD from the guys of Fast Bikes mag. (UK) .Hayabusa versus ZX12R top speed testing and stunts.
I think you'll love the result.

punisherzx12r

yea i have seen it, and i have demonstrated the ability in real life to some busa owners.
your right about the longer swingarm, wheelies are not benificial to road racers, and thats what these bikes are ment to do, they slant the motor and use other trick to get the longest swingarm possible.
i would not buy a bike just because of its out of the box HP number, i do look at everything else.
and torque, take a 12 for a ride, its crazy, but i aint saying its the best stunt bike.
you got to have a bike that is good in all aspects, stuntin, corners, drag racing if you want.
what i am trying to point out is that, if the dyno numbers are correct, 172 hp with a pipe is effin nuts, thats right there in line with my 12, now it wont have as much torque, but i am sure it right there with all the other 1000cc bikes, and all the 1000's are built with the same thing in mind, road racing, so the CG, motor placement, and other factors will be close to the same.
fact is you can stunt on anything, but these new bikes can do all the stunts but yet still compete on the street and on track

TRH_13

Is it really as easy as those guys make it seem? The highspeed mile-long wheelies I mean.
To me that's the most awesome sight, such big bikes rippin' up the streets like it was nothing. I'm used to the speed but the wheelies are very cool.
:YEAH