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Old 11-26-2003 | 04:02 PM
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I'd like to see someone attempt a highchair circle w/o a thumb brake, in fact I'll pay money.

A thumb brake isn't going to do the tricks for you, neither are gears. Both are going to require a finely tuned rider that is prepared to deal with a very responsive throttle and a rear brake w/ maybe 70% of grabbing power. It will/has opened the door for new innovative tricks to be performed in a controlled fashion, while at the same time adding a new element of excitement and variation for the spectators and riders alike.

Rocking tall back pressure highchairs is definately impressive, but at the same time dangerous. Especially when your executing/attempting said trick on the expressway w/ cars, trucks, semi's, and cops right behind you. And I can't say that w/o mentioning the hundreds of morons your going to influence to try something like that, which can easily be started on a 150hp bike, but more than likely not executed. Resulting in injury or death, and a shitty reputation for all of us either way. Even when some of us are smart enough to keep it in controlled enviroments.

w/ that said I'd rather see modifications made to a bike to allow for more consistent cool looking ****, then old news. Props to all, thanks to innovators.

can anyone say highchair coasters?

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Old 11-26-2003 | 04:32 PM
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Old 11-27-2003 | 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by SF Vaughn
Can you do THAT trick with out the hand break, YES YOU CAN!!!




Old 11-27-2003 | 12:58 PM
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Here's how I feel about it. Hand brakes open up the possibilities for new tricks that couldn't be done otherwise. Why hold back the progression of new tricks by limiting the bikes?

If there were two classes, stock and modified, which class would be more entertaining to watch? I would suggest that modified would be able to perform all of the stock tricks and then some.
Old 11-27-2003 | 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by Dirty B
Here's how I feel about it. Hand brakes open up the possibilities for new tricks that couldn't be done otherwise. Why hold back the progression of new tricks by limiting the bikes?

If there were two classes, stock and modified, which class would be more entertaining to watch? I would suggest that modified would be able to perform all of the stock tricks and then some.
I think I might of started some **** with this thread............I'm thinking the way Dirty B is thinking. I am don't want it to make things easier, but there are tricks out there that can't be done without a handbrake I don't care who you are..........and as far as not being able to pull stunts on a stock bike, HA if you can rock a highchair circle, highchair coaster, or hell just parking a highchair on a modified bike, and can't rip on a stock bike you have problems. I rode stock for a long time, then I got a F4i with a 20 up sproket, and damn its a trick just to ride that bitch!!!!!! I just feel that we are almost to the point to where we can do just about anything on a stock bike, so why stop there, if a handbrake opens up a new level of riding, and entertainment.....well then I am taking that step, cause your going to look like a really dumbass doing a 12 next to a guy doing a highchair circle!!!!!!!
Old 11-27-2003 | 10:50 PM
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Well first it is all just difference in opinions but highchair circle wOOlies man give em props. Thats the fattest S%&T Ive seen!Even if he had a meercury switched brakes it still took pratice and the ***** to jump on the bike and fling the clutch. (that most people just dont have.) Is hand brakes cheating no more that a cage or a 12 bar. yes eventually alot of people will be doing highchair circles (with or witout a handbrake). But I dont think youll see any highchair coasters with out it. As far as cutting the pipe seems to be a requirment for rocking circles. Everyone is lashing out on these hand brakes so what is the difference between learning highchair circles with a hand brake and learning reg circles with a cage. Sure you can roll circles with out a cage but how many times did your cage save your bike. Prob the same amout of times as the handbrake saved the highchair circles.
Everyone is just voiceing there opinion. but Mine is rock whatever you can. This sport is getting even more nuts by the day.

P.S Post the updated highchair circle video because I know your rolling more than one now!
Old 11-27-2003 | 11:06 PM
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just on a side note (i think handbrakes are cool and what not). Anyone ever try mounting up a ZX-7r hydraulic clutch master cylinder and lever, and adapting it to the back brake? I think its the same thing. Ronnie from reality has that set up i think, i could be wrong.

EDIT: i have also heard that thumbrakes suck as far as exerting pressure, i thought the ZX-7r hydro clutch mc might work better
Old 11-27-2003 | 11:28 PM
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From what I hear from Randy from PRB Clutch mastercvylinder wont work it doesnt exert enough presure. Not sure. Im not on the level to need one. I know that youll need the leverage of a handle rather than a thumb pad for it to work. Ive been looking at my 900rr and It wouldnt be anything to fab a 2nd caliper bracket. PM me if anone needs help.

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Old 11-27-2003 | 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by terrortekniks
......i think the reason you guys are putting a xtra caliper on your bike isnT cause you need it.........its BECAUSE you cant figure out how to make the lever work with the foot brake
You can't use 1 caliper, if you press on the foot brake it won't grab the rotor it will pump the fluid up to the hand brake resivoir and vise versa. The racers that have thumb brakes don't have foot brakes that's why they have 1 caliper. You can do it but then you can't have a foot brake (which you need for some tricks like no handers)
Old 11-27-2003 | 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by jay_9se7en3
Ronnie from reality has that set up i think,
He has a brake lever from a kids quad
Old 11-27-2003 | 11:47 PM
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you don't use hydraulic then, you mechanical attached to your rear brake. you shoudln't need that much braking power anywyas.

and, it's not cheating. i think that's the stupidest thing ever. how are you going to cheat at something that can't be done without a hand brake? highchair circles? i think ti's just evolving and some people are pissed off cause they can't do the **** that these people with hand brakes. if you think it's cheating, take your rear brake off your bike and start doing 12's, cause basiclaly you are doing the same thing with 12's, only using your foot. ever think of that? probalby not cause you're too busy hating on creativity of other people.

and god damn it rodg....why did you have to go and say something about highchair coasters....i am working on my handbrake right now and was going to lay low and try to bust that **** out. i'm not saying i'd be the first person to do it cause it'd probably take me most of next summer to learn it, but i was at least going to try to bring something new to the plate. and for all you haters, i in no way said i could do this, i was only saying i was going to TRY...that means TRY, so don't ****ing say "you are lying, you can't do that ****" just step off and go to barney.com or something.
Old 11-27-2003 | 11:52 PM
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A high chair coaster?- wouldn't you need 2 left hands one to grab the clutch and 1 to grab the hand brake? Nothings impossible anymore.... GO FOR IT!
Old 11-27-2003 | 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by Rudy-eastcoastX
A high chair coaster?- wouldn't you need 2 left hands one to grab the clutch and 1 to grab the hand brake? Nothings impossible anymore.... GO FOR IT!
well, it'll be a thumb brake. the 2 brake lever thing weirds me out too.

i'll think of something, i have to be orginal in some way. i guess cause i'm doing slow stuff now i'm gay because that is SOOO last august or something like that.
Old 11-28-2003 | 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by Rudy-eastcoastX
You can't use 1 caliper, if you press on the foot brake it won't grab the rotor it will pump the fluid up to the hand brake resivoir and vise versa. The racers that have thumb brakes don't have foot brakes that's why they have 1 caliper. You can do it but then you can't have a foot brake (which you need for some tricks like no handers)

yes u can run a hand/thumb brake and still retain the foot brake with 1 caliper...i know this
Old 11-28-2003 | 03:58 AM
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So basicly we need a modified class and a stock class...
When I first got on a streetfighter--people talked **** about it
Now people are talkin **** about hand brakes
same thing when I put a bar on my **** --people talked ****---
Its not like for my first stuntbke I was like give me a 900 RR full custom everything,motorcross bars, sprockets, hand brake all that ****!!!
Old 11-28-2003 | 04:01 AM
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Ive grew into what Ive become Its my style and i dont think anyone out there wants to talk about that...
Old 11-28-2003 | 04:12 AM
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oh yeah and one more thing----when the rest of you decide to put one on at least do a nice job cause if you cant figure it out hit me up my set up is being copied all over the place so feel free Ill just take pictures of it so those of you that never even saw one knows what it looks like
Old 11-28-2003 | 07:46 AM
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Tony D I agree with ya Gears Dirtbike bars 12 bar hand brake doesnt make the bike do circle wheelies or high chair scrapes its the rider that does it not the damn bike. The rider makes the bike do what he wants it too. I think hand brakes brings it to another level. I need to look at your setup the next time I see ya.
Old 11-28-2003 | 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by JackassRR
yes u can run a hand/thumb brake and still retain the foot brake with 1 caliper...i know this
How did you get it to work?
Old 11-28-2003 | 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by Tony D
Ive grew into what Ive become Its my style and i dont think anyone out there wants to talk about that...
ANT I AGREE whith YOU BUT I ALSO THINK thier SHOULD BE A STOCK AND MOD CLASS AT certen COMPS


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