FTI dual quad + Hohey big rotor
10-21-2009 | 01:54 PM
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Re: FTI dual quad + Hohey big rotor
im a brembo guy... dont really like the feel of any magura ive used... i guess i have a weird style lol
i run my clutch with alot of slack so right before it hits the bar the clutch barely engages. my brembo at 0 or 1 click out.
i like my levers super clost to the bar... and pointed at like 7 oclock position.. pretty far down haha..
see i have plenty of bite with my current setup... i think its all about when you pull in clutch... i clutch earlier and later then you i think...hahah i think?!
but ya... i dunnooo... if i had any more brakes i would have to change my riding style for sure
i run my clutch with alot of slack so right before it hits the bar the clutch barely engages. my brembo at 0 or 1 click out.
i like my levers super clost to the bar... and pointed at like 7 oclock position.. pretty far down haha..
see i have plenty of bite with my current setup... i think its all about when you pull in clutch... i clutch earlier and later then you i think...hahah i think?!
but ya... i dunnooo... if i had any more brakes i would have to change my riding style for sure
10-21-2009 | 02:00 PM
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Re: FTI dual quad + Hohey big rotor
He will be happy to hear that even thou we make fun of his setup all the time, sick riders like yourself run it the same way
10-21-2009 | 02:07 PM
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Re: FTI dual quad + Hohey big rotor
I know what your saying I always prefer billet over welded or bolted together parts, but if you think about it the chain adjuster blocks are welded onto the swingarm, and not only that, the tab that holds the caliper bracket from spinning around it also welded to the inside of the swingarm...And its welded to some much thinner aluminum, so welding billet to billet is much stronger then that....The welded bracket would not be the weakest point because of this, if anything I believe that the tab on the inside would be the weaker welded part ...
And it all comes down to the welder in the end, and knowing how to weld different metals properly...When I brought that bracket to him he was welding some thiner stuff, and he asked me "is this all solid aluminum", and he made some adjustments to his welding machine because solid billet needs alot more heat to weld properly....You can tell the difference just hearing the sound it makes while hes welding it...There is some serious penetration on these welds, and I V grooved everything so I can guarantee these welds will not fail...
Ive tried out a few other welders and was not impressed at all. My guy can weld very long welds continuously without stopping. Which takes alot of skill, because he feeds the filler rod in one hand with this thumb while welding...
Most other guys I have tried neeed to stop and adjust the rod in their feeding hand and start again, which leaves a stop/start point in the middle of the bead....Nothing looks cooler then a 2ft long aluminum TIG weld without any stop/starts in it
And it all comes down to the welder in the end, and knowing how to weld different metals properly...When I brought that bracket to him he was welding some thiner stuff, and he asked me "is this all solid aluminum", and he made some adjustments to his welding machine because solid billet needs alot more heat to weld properly....You can tell the difference just hearing the sound it makes while hes welding it...There is some serious penetration on these welds, and I V grooved everything so I can guarantee these welds will not fail...
Ive tried out a few other welders and was not impressed at all. My guy can weld very long welds continuously without stopping. Which takes alot of skill, because he feeds the filler rod in one hand with this thumb while welding...
Most other guys I have tried neeed to stop and adjust the rod in their feeding hand and start again, which leaves a stop/start point in the middle of the bead....Nothing looks cooler then a 2ft long aluminum TIG weld without any stop/starts in it
10-21-2009 | 02:21 PM
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Re: FTI dual quad + Hohey big rotor
So if a little welding worries you, you should probably worry about your swingarm first...Especially if you own a newer GSXR, because they are welding big cast parts together now, and its not working well..
10-21-2009 | 03:27 PM
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Re: FTI dual quad + Hohey big rotor
Worst case if I start cooking it, I can always switch to the OEM ZX11 rotor...Its ugly but its the same size and bolt pattern...
10-21-2009 | 03:30 PM
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Re: FTI dual quad + Hohey big rotor
In the past I would agree with you, because I have tried a few aftermarket wave rotors and your right they just could not take the heat that an OEM rotor could...However thats not the case with this STAR rotor so far....Its the same or better then OEM when it comes to heat...I didnt even give it a chance to break in, I started reefing on it right away...And it doesnt even have one hot spot on it....
Worst case if I start cooking it, I can always switch to the OEM ZX11 rotor...Its ugly but its the same size and bolt pattern...
Worst case if I start cooking it, I can always switch to the OEM ZX11 rotor...Its ugly but its the same size and bolt pattern...
from the experience of others as well as from secondhand professional knowledge, those star rotors aren't up to snuff for longevity
this is just what i hear haha...i like to run my galfer wave rotors, stock sizes
10-21-2009 | 03:31 PM
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10-21-2009 | 03:36 PM
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10-21-2009 | 03:39 PM
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Re: FTI dual quad + Hohey big rotor
If I cook this STAR one Id go for OEM next time around thou....Like MikeM said there are tons on Ebay for cheap...
So far so good thou, its wearing nicely
10-21-2009 | 03:53 PM
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10-21-2009 | 04:05 PM
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Re: FTI dual quad + Hohey big rotor
ive had no issues with the Star Rotors on my F4i and my 636... both i only had one... never had to replace it... i think the guy i sold my f4i to JUST swapped rotor... but it was still good. my 636 rotor isnt in to bad shape for the abuse its seen.. maybe either the people using them with issues are just brake rapists
10-21-2009 | 10:07 PM
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10-21-2009 | 10:21 PM
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Re: FTI dual quad + Hohey big rotor
I used to do fab work for a NASCAR team and then crew chief'd a road race team, the brake duct work is amazing on those cars. But they use forced air from speed, where we're only going 3-5 mph, I's have to duct in a fan for air. Just something to ponder over the winter.
10-21-2009 | 10:26 PM
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Re: FTI dual quad + Hohey big rotor
I used to do fab work for a NASCAR team and then crew chief'd a road race team, the brake duct work is amazing on those cars. But they use forced air from speed, where we're only going 3-5 mph, I's have to duct in a fan for air. Just something to ponder over the winter.
kinda like it 
