What seperates Amateurs from Pros
08-15-2009, 12:15 PM
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Re: What seperates Amateurs from Pros
This one is going to be long skip it if you have trouble with big words or concepts.
Teach and Apex are smart guys. Part of what makes them professionals is how they handle themselves. This isn't the cool high school clique for them, which is reflected in their attitudes and conduct. I could always tell they take their riding as seriously as any career. just as easily as I could tell those who don't.
I noticed even the riders with the highest levels of technical handling while practicing would become tense before and during competition runs. everyone said it's easier to go to a lot and have fun than it is to compete.
Competition is pressure. It makes sense that it'd affect them, they're looser at the lot.
Teach is right, the level of handling in comps is impressive to a rider/non stunter, and amazing to non riders.
non riders make up a substantial percentage of the pro race fan demographic. so don't count them out as fans. they just need to see you and your numbers will sort themselves out. I'm curious as to what percentage of the market you guys can grab too.
Hope it's fat.
Visual impact-wise... the sport is still in it's infancy by industrial standards, and everyone is figuring out what works. I've seen promoters listen to crowd feedback and apply what makes sense, because of this I have a lot of faith in your sport being a sustainable/profitable industry at some point.
a point I once said would happen around 3 years ago, so, whatever, take it for what it is, a post on stuntlife.
oh and you guys are all ******* crazy.
Teach and Apex are smart guys. Part of what makes them professionals is how they handle themselves. This isn't the cool high school clique for them, which is reflected in their attitudes and conduct. I could always tell they take their riding as seriously as any career. just as easily as I could tell those who don't.
I noticed even the riders with the highest levels of technical handling while practicing would become tense before and during competition runs. everyone said it's easier to go to a lot and have fun than it is to compete.
Competition is pressure. It makes sense that it'd affect them, they're looser at the lot.
Teach is right, the level of handling in comps is impressive to a rider/non stunter, and amazing to non riders.
non riders make up a substantial percentage of the pro race fan demographic. so don't count them out as fans. they just need to see you and your numbers will sort themselves out. I'm curious as to what percentage of the market you guys can grab too.
Hope it's fat.
Visual impact-wise... the sport is still in it's infancy by industrial standards, and everyone is figuring out what works. I've seen promoters listen to crowd feedback and apply what makes sense, because of this I have a lot of faith in your sport being a sustainable/profitable industry at some point.
a point I once said would happen around 3 years ago, so, whatever, take it for what it is, a post on stuntlife.
oh and you guys are all ******* crazy.
08-15-2009, 12:25 PM
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08-18-2009, 01:14 PM
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08-18-2009, 01:17 PM
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Re: What seperates Amateurs from Pros
ok, so from what i was told. If you get paid to ride. then your pro. But what about competing at a pro level. I mean look at me. I cant do circle combos, much less a circle
but i have done shows that have gotten paid for. not very many. I won the KOS amateur comp but that was only because i juggled. There were guys doing HC stalls and all kinds of crazy stuff but that was it. They wernt well rounded.So now that im back at the library, i wanted to post that. I guess i need to start working on circles
08-18-2009, 01:30 PM
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Re: What seperates Amateurs from Pros
I donno about people saying that the sport is only visually stimulating nonriders.
I stunt, but to go out and watch the precision and smoothness alot of the top level XDL guys throw down in their runs is sick.
I stunt, but to go out and watch the precision and smoothness alot of the top level XDL guys throw down in their runs is sick.
08-18-2009, 02:01 PM
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Re: What seperates Amateurs from Pros
if you make a living riding, you are pro.. simple!
talking about RIDING at a pro level, that means you have to be well rounded, have a pleasing to the eye style ridingwise AND bike. Also you have to be able to rock a well put together show/run even under pressure.
i get paid to ride a fair amount of shows, got a handfull of really decent sponsors, even got a money-sponsorship deal and i can hold myself well in the comps. but i consider myself Amateur cuz i got a dayjob and i'm not on world top level..
talking about RIDING at a pro level, that means you have to be well rounded, have a pleasing to the eye style ridingwise AND bike. Also you have to be able to rock a well put together show/run even under pressure.
i get paid to ride a fair amount of shows, got a handfull of really decent sponsors, even got a money-sponsorship deal and i can hold myself well in the comps. but i consider myself Amateur cuz i got a dayjob and i'm not on world top level..
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08-18-2009, 02:43 PM
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Re: What seperates Amateurs from Pros
I love watching wheelies, whether it be my wheelies or someone elses.
Pro vs. Am in Joel Category from what i have seen personally in the lot.
Stoppies - Compete Pro
Tandem - Compete Pro
Target Stoppie - Compete Pro
Ind. Freestyle - Don't Compete lol just playin homie, I'd go Amature if i were you. ( Its what i'm doin ) gotta get them O's , Some Driftin. you'll be at top level next year. your sitdowns are comin along just fine
Pro vs. Am in Joel Category from what i have seen personally in the lot.
Stoppies - Compete Pro
Tandem - Compete Pro
Target Stoppie - Compete Pro
Ind. Freestyle - Don't Compete lol just playin homie, I'd go Amature if i were you. ( Its what i'm doin ) gotta get them O's , Some Driftin. you'll be at top level next year. your sitdowns are comin along just fine
Last edited by HighStyles; 08-18-2009 at 02:44 PM. Reason: to many homie's for one man to handle
08-18-2009, 07:25 PM
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Re: What seperates Amateurs from Pros
i think pro competitor and pro show rider can be two different things ..
if you get paid on a regular basis to do shows then you are a pro show rider and for the sake of this thread and joels question if you have ever qualified at an event like stuntwars or xdl then you are a pro comp rider and shouldnt enter amateur
if you get paid on a regular basis to do shows then you are a pro show rider and for the sake of this thread and joels question if you have ever qualified at an event like stuntwars or xdl then you are a pro comp rider and shouldnt enter amateur
08-18-2009, 07:36 PM
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08-18-2009, 07:48 PM
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Re: What seperates Amateurs from Pros
step yo game up and compete!
xdl is a pro comp! so if have been to one xdl and qualify in the top 15 then thats pro level. or qualifies you as pro, everything else is am
