Staggered 1st gear Clutch ups on a 6RR with -1/+1
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Staggered 1st gear Clutch ups on a 6RR with -1/+1
So I'm working on launching slow, 1st gear staggered clutch ups on my '05 600RR and since my gearing is only -1/+1 I'm finding out real quick that this set up is not very user friendly (no torque + tall-er gearing = pain in ***).
I know the RR's are the hardest to do this on, but does Anybody have any tips or tricks to launching it up to BP smoothly/right away with this set up?
I searched but couldn't find anything about this topic.
I know the RR's are the hardest to do this on, but does Anybody have any tips or tricks to launching it up to BP smoothly/right away with this set up?
I searched but couldn't find anything about this topic.
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Re: Staggered 1st gear Clutch ups on a 6RR with -1/+1
put both of ya feet on da ground,and rev that badboy up all the way..jerk ya right hard real hard like til that thing be goin wananananananan then let go of the clutches and jerk up on the handle bars at the same time..good luck dats how i catwalk my rr.
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Re: Staggered 1st gear Clutch ups on a 6RR with -1/+1
crankin up your idle will help once your at bp,it makes it less choppy cause the high idle makes the bike want to stay up(if your doin it right)sorry but the only advice I got is to keep practicin.you'll get it.
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im running -1 and stock in the back and i can bring it up to balance point rolling at idle. everything stock. i kinda feel like im almost at twelve sometimes.
hearing the exhaust scrape scared the **** out of me the last time when i looped it.
i just cant hold it there too long. haha. my rear brake control sucks. i dont know what rpm i rev it up to but its not that much. i just listen to the sound. gonna install my handbrake so i have an emergency brake i can grab until my foot gets dialed in. haha
hearing the exhaust scrape scared the **** out of me the last time when i looped it.
i just cant hold it there too long. haha. my rear brake control sucks. i dont know what rpm i rev it up to but its not that much. i just listen to the sound. gonna install my handbrake so i have an emergency brake i can grab until my foot gets dialed in. haha
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Re: Staggered 1st gear Clutch ups on a 6RR with -1/+1
AAAAAAAHHHHHH **** i just looped like a mother about 40 minutes ago. no jacket no gloves, just my helmet. slammed the exhaust into the street front end came down so fast i launched into the air over the bars straight in front of my bike which was slideing down the road directly behind me.... lol luckily i had enough since to flip in the air and watch where the bike was so i was able to jump outta the way. dont know what happened...complacency i guess. just wasn't respecting that **** and twisted it up lol. bike is good i got some shitty road rash. nothin even worth postin i just had to vent HAHAHHA.
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Re: Staggered 1st gear Clutch ups on a 6RR with -1/+1
Originally Posted by blee4033257
crankin up your idle will help once your at bp,it makes it less choppy cause the high idle makes the bike want to stay up(if your doin it right)sorry but the only advice I got is to keep practicin.you'll get it.
I already ran the idle up. I'm not worried about keepin it there, just gettin it there smoothly. these RR's have so little torque/tall gearing and such a redicculously high BP that it makes it awkward.
Originally Posted by rookie stunter4033282
gotta get it up immediately, ive ridden a few 600rr's i always thought they were pretty good in 1st gear.
How fast are you goin when you bring it up quick like that?
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Re: Staggered 1st gear Clutch ups on a 6RR with -1/+1
about 0 nukka just twist it up drop the clutch when you get scared hit the back break....just make sure you dont do like i posted above lol. then repeat until u dont hit the brakes to hard and you stop gettin scared
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You just got to quit making excuses. RR's have a very strong idle and are very smooth bikes once you get used to them. You just need to practice more. You don't need more gearing, more handbrake, just more practice. Place the idle around 2.5-3k to learn and work on being smooth with the brake. That's it. I have a video on youtube with -1 +1 when I was learning for proof.
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You just got to quit making excuses. RR's have a very strong idle and are very smooth bikes once you get used to them. You just need to practice more. You don't need more gearing, more handbrake, just more practice. Place the idle around 2.5-3k to learn and work on being smooth with the brake. That's it. I have a video on youtube with -1 +1 when I was learning for proof.
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idle will defineiatly help, , but youll get used to the 1st gear buck, its fun in ss, like it drops out of your feet, dont do staggered though on stock gearing in 1st...i learned the hard way......
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You have to clutch it up man, seriously... turn your idle up to around three grand. Try from basicly a dead stop, I suggest left foot on the ground , sitting still with first gear engaged and with clutch fully pulled in. Make sure your right foot is covering the RB, slip the clutch and blip the throttle at the same time. Keep practicing this until you can consistently get it straight to BP, which will be when your front forks are level/horizontal with the ground. You will most likely clutch it past the point or way below it, just be sure to tap the RB, and blip the throttle...It will come natural, basicly a reflex, if you clutch straight up fast to balance point you will naturally catch idle..
The first time I hit balance point and caught idle though I was staggered, on a 99 zx9 with a 73 tooth sprocket..good luck man..just keep riding
The first time I hit balance point and caught idle though I was staggered, on a 99 zx9 with a 73 tooth sprocket..good luck man..just keep riding
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Re: Staggered 1st gear Clutch ups on a 6RR with -1/+1
You just got to quit making excuses. RR's have a very strong idle and are very smooth bikes once you get used to them. You just need to practice more. You don't need more gearing, more handbrake, just more practice. Place the idle around 2.5-3k to learn and work on being smooth with the brake. That's it. I have a video on youtube with -1 +1 when I was learning for proof.
Yeah, I figured this^^
I just needed to hear it from someone else on a RR. Thanks man. you got a link to that video?
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Re: Staggered 1st gear Clutch ups on a 6RR with -1/+1
You just got to quit making excuses. RR's have a very strong idle and are very smooth bikes once you get used to them. You just need to practice more. You don't need more gearing, more handbrake, just more practice. Place the idle around 2.5-3k to learn and work on being smooth with the brake. That's it. I have a video on youtube with -1 +1 when I was learning for proof.
+1. . .I still have trouble find BP in first, but clutching it up in second (which will be harder for you as I am running -1 +5) is much smoother and makes it easier to control. Aside from that it's just seat time dude, like he said, it takes getting used to.
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