DoodleF4i

id rather watch scott kill it with no hb than someone jerk off a suicide megadeathstallspindeadsupercircle. guess you gotta be a rider who learn off peg ****** with no hb to understand

Ethiopian

SCOTT_Chychul

Its pretty ignorant for you to mention evolution and then say you dont give a **** about the past. Jimmy rigging a bigger caliper onto a rotor isnt technology.

SCOTT_Chychul

A crowd wants to see crashes, or the risk of a crash at least. Thats why Nascar, the otherwise most boring sport or activity next to freesyle frisbee is so popular. They want to see **** fly. If i had a choice to go watch a no handbrake xdl or the 4 piston one guess where i'd be. Don't get me wrong some of the circle combos are amazing BUT the second you stall a circle and just run it off the crowd no longer cares because they dont understand technical tricks, whats the risk ? They might as well go watch cars do nothing but left turns and in reality they actually would. So what does that say ?

DoodleF4i

p.s the video of scott scraping highchair with no hb on his f4 was one of the most gangster clips ever..even when i had a handbrake i would always practice my scrapes/slowing down,jumps,and combos just covering/using the clutch...its only fun when you might not come back off the bar lol :]

killswitch12283

well i dont think the helmet and pad advancements in football make the sport any less entertaining, just reduces the risk of injury as does a hb, can you do off peg combo o's without one? I cant, pimp if you can

frayz

Nowadays my favorite trick is 2nd gear seat stander handbrake champions. Danger

SCOTT_Chychul

In a straight line yes, in a circle i dont know but i can try and honestly think its possible.

killswitch12283

straight line without a brake isnt that pimp, scrapin hc w/o hb is pimp but not comboing.......anyone with alittle seat time who actually stunts can do that, and yes ive seen circles without a hb, just feathering clutch but i dont see them tuckin in or out of ****.......just ss o's.......plain and simple you cant keep up with todays technical tricks without one..........cant argue that

killswitch12283

Id Have to disagree................

In general technology is the relationship that society has with its tools and crafts

"a capability given by the practical application of knowledge".

At least here in the states........maybe not in canasia

John LegionST

the newbs will never get it Scott. The thrill of stunting is lost on the HB genereation...



I agree with both of you. Yes we have to move forward to progress the sport and everything, yes we need HB's now! no arguing that point!!! but I still think too many people are learning the wrong way today. Just cause you have a HB doesnt mean you should learn tricks relying on it... go learn some damn throttle control first!!! believe it or not it will make HB tricks a LOT easier and you wont keep raping your HB setup, i still use a single stock caliper with junction valve from FTI and i never have ANY of these problems... cause I use it like it's SUPPOSED to be used...And yes, defiantely, comps would be more entertaining to the crowd if they were higher speed, faster paced, with a bigger chance of a wreck. But dont blame it on the HB, just cause you have one doesnt mean you cant ride with energy, speed, and keep the crowd on the edge of their seat... there are a lot of riders that are capable of doing that, with a HB, and if you notice, as long as they keep their run clean they finish well! I think maybe XDL scoring could reward a rider that rides on the edge, entertaining the crowd much more, better to try to encourage that type of riding... think Teach on the RR............. he always had a HB on that bike and was still one of the funnest people to watch.........


no one gives a **** about the old days... you need to learn a little stunt history and give some respect.. pretty bs comment you made there... and like i said above, many newbs SHOULD care about the past and learn something from it coughthrottlecontrolcough... willing to bet most of the newb squids that are "killing it" in a lot today would have a hard time doing a 1/4 mile off the pegs without a HB..........

yep.

HAHA, I would LOVE to see football played without pads... earn that 4.675 MILLION a year!!! I think that would actually be more entertaining...

DoodleF4i

I laugh when all the new kids that are like "bro make sure you get a handbrake first before you do anything off the peg you might loop it out otherwise" i've seen people that don't even know how to use a footbrake,or even have a fuctioning one their bike,but will kill hb tricks..wtf is that about..and as far as circle tricks etc etc. was it otown throw down gary did like every combo circle with his handbrake broken? to each his own..i just dont like it when people think stunting is nothing but about the handfake lol.

paragus

this is all too common. ive seen this a few times.

krazykyle85

I run brembo 16x18, Hohey 4 piston, star rotor, with Motul RBF600 HH all around, front and rear...

And the only problem I have is....


After a few sessions fluid is burnt.


I definetly ride hard and rape brakes...
But as long as your not constantly dragging them you should be ok.
Part of the reason I like HH pads is cause theybite! I won't need to drag a HH as much as a oem pad..
dragging the brakes or to much slow idle stuff will overheat your brakes


Eitherway just make sure to have fresh fluid..


Were do you run your idle? You might need to turn it down and use your throttle

krazykyle85

The awesome thing about a handbrake is you don't always have to use it...

But I would have stoped riding if all the stuff I do wasnt possible.
If I could only do footbrake stuff and no handbrake straightline...


I'd go back to dirtbike riding..

I love to control and all the technical side you get with brake and throttle control... It's not all about handbrake ya gotta use foot and front brakes that's my tripple setup..

You never known brake power till you tried the Front brakes in a wheelie!!!!

JohnnyP

Ok ok asking for more then a 4 piston is pushing it, but honeslty I just went to 4 piston...And Im kicking myself in the *** for not doing it sooner. I never wanted it because of the look, and it being another thing for squids to point out at shows..To say things like "Thats why he can do that".....

After trying one I dont care what people say, it raised my game so much that I could give a **** less what someone says...I want to be doing the newest technical tricks (that I see on vids here, then try myself at the lot), and this really helps for that...I didnt just learn to stall SS or death spins, it just made me way better at them because of its locking power... It made stunting so much fun again...

So it depends what you want to do with stunting....Keep it OG or go for the new school tricks that require a HB...

And for the record Im not a HB queen and I learned slow SS without one...

-SKETCHY-

I heart my HB. Magura is now making a 11 & 12mm brakeside......hmmmmmmm

SHANE124

Holy **** that's an old pic, is that me in the back ground on the fiddy

-SKETCHY-

I learned slow SS without a handbrake as well. Didn't know what one was then

JohnnyP

Thats pretty sic, but do you think youd actually want anything smaller then the 13 for a 4 piston HB? I think the 13 is perfect so far....