600RR Full Throttle dual four piston review
06-20-2009, 11:22 AM
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600RR Full Throttle dual four piston review
My bike setup before was: 07 600RR. Stock caliper with adapter and magura 13mm. The stock caliper on the 07 up is tiny and weak with an inconsistent feel.
So I got my dual caliper bracket, line, and pre cut brake pads from Bill. Put the bracket and wheel on, which is actually way easier than the stock bracket. I got my calipers from a good friend and got to bleeding. Bleeding the calipers is really no issue at all. I simply placed a 12mm wrench between the pads and ziptied it in place. Bled the brakes with the caliper at a vertical angle (the same as on the front of the bike) and tapped the caliper a few times to ensure all air moved freely to the bleeder valve and bled out. Bolted em' up and rode to bed the pads in.
They are definitely insanely strong. I have the magura 13mm and I've heard the 16mm is the way to go, BUT... my 13 works great and I can lock up the rear tire at 50mph with my PINKY! The footbrake is very soft and achieves lockup about halfway down, at which position there isn't a lot of pedal pressure yet... So, the trick to getting used to the brake is foot position as opposed to feel of pressure at the pedal, which actually allows you to focus on less variables (foot angle to brake effect vs. Foot angle to pedal pressure to brake effect) and maintain a more efficient awareness of how your braking is affecting the bike. (Makes coasters motard easy) There is way more feel and control at the pedal than before. The handbrake setup is ridiculously strong, with more initial bite and tons of feel and feedback at the lever with my 13mm Magura. It again is more about lever position instead of lever pressure to the relation of force at the brakes. This means tons of feel with a minimal risk of arm pump because it feels like I'm moving the lever as opposed to squeezing the lever. Awesome for coasters, and it gives me tons of confidence in my brakes, which is farking awesome. I honestly don't think a brake setup could get better than this. I love em'.
So I got my dual caliper bracket, line, and pre cut brake pads from Bill. Put the bracket and wheel on, which is actually way easier than the stock bracket. I got my calipers from a good friend and got to bleeding. Bleeding the calipers is really no issue at all. I simply placed a 12mm wrench between the pads and ziptied it in place. Bled the brakes with the caliper at a vertical angle (the same as on the front of the bike) and tapped the caliper a few times to ensure all air moved freely to the bleeder valve and bled out. Bolted em' up and rode to bed the pads in.
They are definitely insanely strong. I have the magura 13mm and I've heard the 16mm is the way to go, BUT... my 13 works great and I can lock up the rear tire at 50mph with my PINKY! The footbrake is very soft and achieves lockup about halfway down, at which position there isn't a lot of pedal pressure yet... So, the trick to getting used to the brake is foot position as opposed to feel of pressure at the pedal, which actually allows you to focus on less variables (foot angle to brake effect vs. Foot angle to pedal pressure to brake effect) and maintain a more efficient awareness of how your braking is affecting the bike. (Makes coasters motard easy) There is way more feel and control at the pedal than before. The handbrake setup is ridiculously strong, with more initial bite and tons of feel and feedback at the lever with my 13mm Magura. It again is more about lever position instead of lever pressure to the relation of force at the brakes. This means tons of feel with a minimal risk of arm pump because it feels like I'm moving the lever as opposed to squeezing the lever. Awesome for coasters, and it gives me tons of confidence in my brakes, which is farking awesome. I honestly don't think a brake setup could get better than this. I love em'.
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06-20-2009, 11:31 AM
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06-20-2009, 11:57 AM
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Re: 600RR Full Throttle dual four piston review
yeah definately a crappy turnout
did yall get some decent fun in after i went home?
next time we ride the streets u me drew and dane will just have to go, and i'll make sure i can stay out and ride late without the old lady naggin
06-20-2009, 12:13 PM
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Re: 600RR Full Throttle dual four piston review
And as far as rain goes, I feel ya. It's been raining nonstop down here up until last night. Muggy as hell
06-20-2009, 12:15 PM
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06-20-2009, 12:25 PM
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Re: 600RR Full Throttle dual four piston review
i did just about the same thing woo...
i bled them wit and extra pad in between the pads at an upright position...i like your descreption bout the footbrake....ive been tellin people about this all week and thats the best explanation for it. the footbrake has some gangster swoop to it now!
FTI rocks!
i bled them wit and extra pad in between the pads at an upright position...i like your descreption bout the footbrake....ive been tellin people about this all week and thats the best explanation for it. the footbrake has some gangster swoop to it now!
FTI rocks!
06-20-2009, 12:35 PM
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Re: 600RR Full Throttle dual four piston review
I've got the chance to get one of them. But i cant help think i'm not gona like the foot brake working the twin pot. I'm leaning more for the HoHay with stock foot brake and twin pot bar break at the min.
I'm running 2 stock rear calipers at the min with a 13mm magura and its fine. But **** for foot drags or anythin that ends up to far back and messy lol Thats why i'm thinking about a twin pot on the bar brake. Foot brake on the 05 636 is awesome tho.
I'm running 2 stock rear calipers at the min with a 13mm magura and its fine. But **** for foot drags or anythin that ends up to far back and messy lol Thats why i'm thinking about a twin pot on the bar brake. Foot brake on the 05 636 is awesome tho.
06-20-2009, 12:50 PM
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Re: 600RR Full Throttle dual four piston review
I've got the chance to get one of them. But i cant help think i'm not gona like the foot brake working the twin pot. I'm leaning more for the HoHay with stock foot brake and twin pot bar break at the min.
I'm running 2 stock rear calipers at the min with a 13mm magura and its fine. But **** for foot drags or anythin that ends up to far back and messy lol Thats why i'm thinking about a twin pot on the bar brake. Foot brake on the 05 636 is awesome tho.
I'm running 2 stock rear calipers at the min with a 13mm magura and its fine. But **** for foot drags or anythin that ends up to far back and messy lol Thats why i'm thinking about a twin pot on the bar brake. Foot brake on the 05 636 is awesome tho.
i did just about the same thing woo...
i bled them wit and extra pad in between the pads at an upright position...i like your descreption bout the footbrake....ive been tellin people about this all week and thats the best explanation for it. the footbrake has some gangster swoop to it now!
FTI rocks!
i bled them wit and extra pad in between the pads at an upright position...i like your descreption bout the footbrake....ive been tellin people about this all week and thats the best explanation for it. the footbrake has some gangster swoop to it now!
FTI rocks!
06-20-2009, 08:58 PM
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Re: 600RR Full Throttle dual four piston review
well, just got back from the spot. I gotta say that this setup is definatly out of control! The footbrake does have a way longer travel it seems, which is great for no handers and ****. It gives you so much feel compared to the stock one. The handbrake has so much power that it actually is harder to get used to than the footbrake. I slammed a couple straightline combos straight down just because my finger touched the lever that little bit and circles dont feel as smooth because the brake hits soo hard. After a while though i started getting used to it and I know im gonna love it in the long run. Overall im definatly satisfied with the product and with the shipping and customer service from FTI. I just think its funny that I was worried about the footbrake being too much and I kinda feel like its the handbrake that is too much.
06-20-2009, 10:36 PM
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Re: 600RR Full Throttle dual four piston review
I had a doozy my first ride as well... Grabbed way more hb than necessary...
Is nebody running the hb caliper to to top brake? I tried it top n bottom n stuk wit it on top, footbrake on bottom... i wasn't able to tell if it made any difference tho...
I was thinking that in the long run It might help keep air outa the caliper feeding from the top
Is nebody running the hb caliper to to top brake? I tried it top n bottom n stuk wit it on top, footbrake on bottom... i wasn't able to tell if it made any difference tho...
I was thinking that in the long run It might help keep air outa the caliper feeding from the top
06-20-2009, 11:06 PM
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Re: 600RR Full Throttle dual four piston review
I would love to post feedback but it ****** rains everyday
. Im running a 13mm magura for the first time it feels a lil too squishy i bled and bled and bled and still squishy. I even took it to the shop and had em bled and still the same. It locks up from wat I can tell but its a further squeeze than im used to. Is it me buggin out or marguras feel this way and everything is fine?
. Im running a 13mm magura for the first time it feels a lil too squishy i bled and bled and bled and still squishy. I even took it to the shop and had em bled and still the same. It locks up from wat I can tell but its a further squeeze than im used to. Is it me buggin out or marguras feel this way and everything is fine?
06-20-2009, 11:20 PM
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Re: 600RR Full Throttle dual four piston review
also i just purchased a single 4 piston adaptor for my f4i.. i cant wait to see how it works out. the only thing now is im waiting on my dam replacment magura parts to come in
06-20-2009, 11:46 PM
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Re: 600RR Full Throttle dual four piston review
I think you'd lke the 4 pot on the footbrake. It has so much feel that it actually allows you to use less brake more easily if that makes sense...
That is a way better idea... Using an extra pad to belled em would be smarter! Yeah, I love the rear footbrake now. It's like doing a coaster on a motard, but more stable because of the weight. So gangster!
That is a way better idea... Using an extra pad to belled em would be smarter! Yeah, I love the rear footbrake now. It's like doing a coaster on a motard, but more stable because of the weight. So gangster!
