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Old 06-14-2009, 02:31 PM
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600rr no vin question

Hey guys. I found a 600rr for a good $$$, but theres a problem. THeres no vin on the neck from what the guy says. He says it was a stock track bike. It does not come with a title either. Is there any other place on the frame with the vin number? OR can i check if its not stolen using the engine vin? Should i take it to a police station and have them check it? Can he write me a bill of sale if theres no vin#? Thanks
oh and I'm gonna use is as a lot bike. no streets.

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Old 06-14-2009, 02:36 PM
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Re: 600rr no vin question

did you ask him why theres no vin on the neck? does it look like someone ground the vin numbers off? run the engine numbers and see if it comes up clean or not. if it sounds to good to be true it probably is.
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Old 06-14-2009, 03:18 PM
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buy it and take it to the police, they'll help you with whatever you need.
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Old 06-14-2009, 03:20 PM
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Re: 600rr no vin question

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buy it and take it to the police, they'll help you with whatever you need.

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Re: 600rr no vin question

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buy it and take it to the police, they'll help you with whatever you need.
?? ... if its hot wont they take it? ... is there a sticker on the frame? .. u can check thru the engine ...and he can give u a bill of sale but make sure u get his id cause he can give u a phony name and thats as good as nothing
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haha they will take it and take you to jail for possesion of stolen property.
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dont buy it until you're sure its not hot..
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Re: 600rr no vin question

some things are just too obvious u kno?

o well
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if its that cheap buy it and swap frames
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Re: 600rr no vin question

it will eventually bite you in the ***. if at any point in time the popo rolls up on you and tries to check that **** which will happen believe me, you are fucked. it doesnt matter what the engine numbers are, that is something that can be replaced in a matter of hours, its not that hard. gawd there is such thing as a stupid ******* question! why do you think there are no vin#'s ? by a mere coincidence? if everyone worked hard for everything in life instead of taking the easy way out and supporting people who steal things then there would not be anyone out there stealing things because there would be zero profit in it because everyone would say **** you and the horse you rode in on i aint buying that ****.
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pics??
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Re: 600rr no vin question

There is no such thing as a stock race bike with no numbers


check it this way.



1. Was the whole frame repainted or powder coated? If not and the neck is the same color then put some lacquer thinner on rag and rub were the vin is suppose to be if paint rubs off walk away from it.



2. You can buy frame blanks from the dealer so ask the guy for the receipt of the blank frame he bought if he does not have it then walk away.



3. If the vin sticker was removed and there is no vin then it is obvious you need to walk away from it!



4. If you have a good eye and the bike is still stock take a look at the engine bolts and see if they have ever been wrenched on if not and there is not vin or sticker then you need to walk away from!


5. Ask if the motor was replaced if it is the orignal motor with numbers then there should be numbers on the frame as well. That being said you should walk away!



There is a few more tricks to tell but these are the simple ones!





Just be careful!

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Old 06-14-2009, 06:32 PM
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Re: 600rr no vin question

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haha they will take it and take you to jail for possesion of stolen property.
As well as Altered Vin #... BOTH being FELONY charges
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No VIN=Steam bucket call the guy and ask him what area he stole it from
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Old 06-14-2009, 07:24 PM
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Re: 600rr no vin question

Yea he said its not hot and can give me the bill of sale. But what's he going to put as vin? Sounds shady. Think I'm gonna pass on this one. Although it would still be a good deal if i swapped the frame.
ITs this one: http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/mcy/1218702421.html Doesn't look like it was laid at 5mph too lol.
haha they will take it and take you to jail for possesion of stolen property.
I ment before i buy it lol

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Old 06-14-2009, 08:29 PM
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if its a factory track bike why does it have all the lighting whale tail etc?
mad sketchy
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Old 06-14-2009, 08:58 PM
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dont even bother with it. that ************ stole it from someone...dropped it while stealing it(reason for the scratched plastics and rashed stator)...then ground off the numbers. turn that ****** in and have his worthless *** put behind bars.

and all bikes(even track bikes) have vins. they just dont have the title.
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:07 PM
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Thats what i was thinking too. Not worth getting into trouble. BTW. anyone know of any good places to buy a cheap salvage titled bike in il or surrounding areas???
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What part of Chicago you from? theres a salvage/junkyard with moto-x bikes, rockets, quads, whatever... forgot the name of it but its somewhere in Des Plaines I believe.
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Thats what i was thinking too. Not worth getting into trouble. BTW. anyone know of any good places to buy a cheap salvage titled bike in il or surrounding areas???
wanna make a trip to STL? R1 for sale here somewhere that the dude wrecked and broke off one of the crankcase covers. he wants 2900 for it. clean title. ill post a link if i find it on craigslist
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