noob Stoppie problems
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04-13-2009, 01:03 PM
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04-14-2009, 01:02 AM
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04-14-2009, 06:53 PM
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Re: noob Stoppie problems
oh ya there was a topic here huh , the key to not skidding the front tire is
1] a good front tire -pilot power
2] a warm front tire
3] using the weight transfer of the bike to help the pick up, meaning as you are getting off the gas the bike will naturally dive in the front and if you take advantage of that dive it will help alot .. it's a timing thing but the objective is to keep the momentum of the weight transfer by hitting the brake while the weight is transferring to the front tire
4]keeping weight on the front tire by locking your arms , like alot of people said yes you can bend your arms to steer but if you are going straight your arms should be straight
1] a good front tire -pilot power
2] a warm front tire
3] using the weight transfer of the bike to help the pick up, meaning as you are getting off the gas the bike will naturally dive in the front and if you take advantage of that dive it will help alot .. it's a timing thing but the objective is to keep the momentum of the weight transfer by hitting the brake while the weight is transferring to the front tire
4]keeping weight on the front tire by locking your arms , like alot of people said yes you can bend your arms to steer but if you are going straight your arms should be straight
Seems like omr is the only real spoken one here. I wouldnt consider my self a "Pro" but i can get em out there pretty far (300-400ft consistantly)
Just like omr said. Start with a good tire. now this subject is negotible. I run Meztler M3's and wont run anything else. but Pilot powers are great tires too.
second. WARM THAT TIRE UP! do a few zig zags up and down the lot like you see in nascar. And make sure the pavement your trying to stoppie on is good corse concrete, some surfaces are slicker than others.
The whole concept of a stoppie is basically like a wheelie. Get it up as high as possible as fast as possible to roll them out any decent length. but being new your probably not going to want to try that.
Start off at the top of 1st gear and slowly apply more and more pressure until you feel the back end lift. practice and practice that over and over again until you feel comfortable riding on the front wheel.
When you get a lil better youll want to force them a lil more. use more weight distribution.
When im doing stoppies, as im getting off the throttle im simultaneousley pulling the front brake and shifting my upper body weight to the front and driving my forks down to bottom out the suspension, then is just all feathering the brake and body control. straight arms is not bad at all. when rolling straight you use your shoulders more to steer, but as you move on to 180s and such youll bend your arms more. your best advise is just practice practice practice. its comes with time.
04-14-2009, 06:57 PM
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Re: noob Stoppie problems
not positive but i believe the gsxr has a set of rebound adjustment screws on the top of the fork and a set of compression adjustment screws on the side of the bottom part of the fork ..
might be the other way around im not sure but if you turn them both all the way down and feel how the shock reacts you should be able to figure out what one does by turning them full hard one at a time
as far as the rear shock goes i like mine set to full hard with alot of preload on the spring , better all around for stunting in my opinion
might be the other way around im not sure but if you turn them both all the way down and feel how the shock reacts you should be able to figure out what one does by turning them full hard one at a time
as far as the rear shock goes i like mine set to full hard with alot of preload on the spring , better all around for stunting in my opinion
i run a gsxr, i turned the adjustments on the top as stiff as they go. (all the way to the right) I only weigh 150lbs. I perfer it more rigid. you dont want it bouncing while your up
04-14-2009, 07:14 PM
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Re: noob Stoppie problems
i like my settings tight also but i figured since he was a beginner it would be better for him to have the compression kind of soft but his rebound tight so the bike would dive easy and not shoot back up at him , its a good setting for slower stoppies
04-14-2009, 07:35 PM
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Re: noob Stoppie problems
you will see what setting does what if you pay attention to how fast the forks compress and rebound
04-14-2009, 07:41 PM
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Re: noob Stoppie problems
wheres this dude live? reeff aint been on the horse in a minute,,,, been sledin............i ride everyday..........try too
04-14-2009, 09:02 PM
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Re: noob Stoppie problems
True, but that may sabotoge his fork seals if he is learning slow wheelies too. its hard to tell/teach a newer rider to run it a certian way when they may be more comfortable with something completely different. its like talking tire pressures on here. I run 35psi, others run 15, 20psi. I was fucked from the get go. I listened to JB and ran his set-up!
04-15-2009, 03:51 AM
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Re: noob Stoppie problems
sup broooo haven't heard from you in a minute either.....anyways pm him he was living in kenmore last i knew.
sorry for the thread jackin everyone
04-15-2009, 08:11 PM
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Re: noob Stoppie problems
Seems like omr is the only real spoken one here. I wouldnt consider my self a "Pro" but i can get em out there pretty far (300-400ft consistantly)
Just like omr said. Start with a good tire. now this subject is negotible. I run Meztler M3's and wont run anything else. but Pilot powers are great tires too.
second. WARM THAT TIRE UP! do a few zig zags up and down the lot like you see in nascar. And make sure the pavement your trying to stoppie on is good corse concrete, some surfaces are slicker than others.
The whole concept of a stoppie is basically like a wheelie. Get it up as high as possible as fast as possible to roll them out any decent length. but being new your probably not going to want to try that.
Start off at the top of 1st gear and slowly apply more and more pressure until you feel the back end lift. practice and practice that over and over again until you feel comfortable riding on the front wheel.
When you get a lil better youll want to force them a lil more. use more weight distribution.
When im doing stoppies, as im getting off the throttle im simultaneousley pulling the front brake and shifting my upper body weight to the front and driving my forks down to bottom out the suspension, then is just all feathering the brake and body control. straight arms is not bad at all. when rolling straight you use your shoulders more to steer, but as you move on to 180s and such youll bend your arms more. your best advise is just practice practice practice. its comes with time.
Just like omr said. Start with a good tire. now this subject is negotible. I run Meztler M3's and wont run anything else. but Pilot powers are great tires too.
second. WARM THAT TIRE UP! do a few zig zags up and down the lot like you see in nascar. And make sure the pavement your trying to stoppie on is good corse concrete, some surfaces are slicker than others.
The whole concept of a stoppie is basically like a wheelie. Get it up as high as possible as fast as possible to roll them out any decent length. but being new your probably not going to want to try that.
Start off at the top of 1st gear and slowly apply more and more pressure until you feel the back end lift. practice and practice that over and over again until you feel comfortable riding on the front wheel.
When you get a lil better youll want to force them a lil more. use more weight distribution.
When im doing stoppies, as im getting off the throttle im simultaneousley pulling the front brake and shifting my upper body weight to the front and driving my forks down to bottom out the suspension, then is just all feathering the brake and body control. straight arms is not bad at all. when rolling straight you use your shoulders more to steer, but as you move on to 180s and such youll bend your arms more. your best advise is just practice practice practice. its comes with time.
dude GREAT advice one more quick question i have a tendency to pull in the clutch it that bad? should i start remembering not to pull it in ?
04-16-2009, 09:28 PM
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Re: noob Stoppie problems
04-17-2009, 04:04 AM
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Re: noob Stoppie problems
good advice yall. i have been trying some as well and i either get them straight up then right down, or ride them a little but not high enough. Damn it!! lol
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