race slicks for endos?
#21
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slicks love them. i've ran them for the past year. I run the pirelli supercorsa sc2 and sc3. i've ran them in the rain cold sandy lotts and other riders are running them after watching me roll when they are washing out. i really don't heat them up i get out the trailer and start riding. best you can do is try it. each rider is different. i like the smaller profile for my 180s and 270 but still rolls straight.
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#24
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Yea, mine locks up a lot at night out there (normal pilot power). It's got me scared to roll
Last edited by inolen; 02-04-2009 at 10:34 AM.
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#27
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ABE is definetely right, He got all us Myrtle beach stunters using them and there GREAT. For example, yesterday it was bout 55degrees out (not warm for here) and I went back and forth at our spot 2-3 times did a wheelie or two, then strait to stoppies. Didnt even slide the tire once, you dont need much warmup and they stick like hell. EVERYBODY that ive seen try slicks loved them (at least 5-6 riders) since ABE got us on em. Also, our lots not very clean and they even work on sealed asphalt.
#29
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ABE is definetely right, He got all us Myrtle beach stunters using them and there GREAT. For example, yesterday it was bout 55degrees out (not warm for here) and I went back and forth at our spot 2-3 times did a wheelie or two, then strait to stoppies. Didnt even slide the tire once, you dont need much warmup and they stick like hell. EVERYBODY that ive seen try slicks loved them (at least 5-6 riders) since ABE got us on em. Also, our lots not very clean and they even work on sealed asphalt.
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#31
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Depending on which compound ur using??? The 2ct works better than the street power IMO. Ive picked up stoppies at well into the triple digits and NEVER had a pilot lock up on me. Actually thats the least of my worries with a Michelin up front. Its all in ur front end setup as well as ur pick-up technique. I will ONLY use Michelin Pilots on my front wheel for this reason
#32
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Depending on which compound ur using??? The 2ct works better than the street power IMO. Ive picked up stoppies at well into the triple digits and NEVER had a pilot lock up on me. Actually thats the least of my worries with a Michelin up front. Its all in ur front end setup as well as ur pick-up technique. I will ONLY use Michelin Pilots on my front wheel for this reason
I never thought I'd have a lock up until a few weeks back when I locked up while I was fully committed at ~40mph and went flipping down the lot.
I've since been locking up a lot, but I think it's because I'm being a vag about my technique (I use to come in hot, throw weight forward, and immediately pick it up after letting off the gas/pulling in the clutch).
I went back in the lot a few days later and noticed a sand strip around where I had locked up at - I think that was my problem. I've noticed during the day I have absolutely 0 problems locking up, but at night I definitely have to be committed to avoid lock ups, but I'm a bit hesitant to do that currently.
Last edited by inolen; 02-04-2009 at 12:21 PM.
#33
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What's your opinion on front end setups? I think my compression is as soft as it gets, and my rebound is as stiff as it gets, with my preload being somewhere in the middle.
I never thought I'd have a lock up until a few weeks back when I locked up while I was fully committed at ~40mph and went flipping down the lot.
I've since been locking up a lot, but I think it's because I'm being a vag about my technique (I use to come in hot, throw weight forward, and immediately pick it up after letting off the gas/pulling in the clutch).
I went back in the lot a few days later and noticed a sand strip around where I had locked up at - I think that was my problem. I've noticed during the day I have absolutely 0 problems locking up, but at night I definitely have to be committed to avoid lock ups, but I'm a bit hesitant to do that currently.
I never thought I'd have a lock up until a few weeks back when I locked up while I was fully committed at ~40mph and went flipping down the lot.
I've since been locking up a lot, but I think it's because I'm being a vag about my technique (I use to come in hot, throw weight forward, and immediately pick it up after letting off the gas/pulling in the clutch).
I went back in the lot a few days later and noticed a sand strip around where I had locked up at - I think that was my problem. I've noticed during the day I have absolutely 0 problems locking up, but at night I definitely have to be committed to avoid lock ups, but I'm a bit hesitant to do that currently.
Lock ups are fun
#34
Re: race slicks for endos?
What's your opinion on front end setups? I think my compression is as soft as it gets, and my rebound is as stiff as it gets, with my preload being somewhere in the middle.
I never thought I'd have a lock up until a few weeks back when I locked up while I was fully committed at ~40mph and went flipping down the lot.
I've since been locking up a lot, but I think it's because I'm being a vag about my technique (I use to come in hot, throw weight forward, and immediately pick it up after letting off the gas/pulling in the clutch).
I went back in the lot a few days later and noticed a sand strip around where I had locked up at - I think that was my problem. I've noticed during the day I have absolutely 0 problems locking up, but at night I definitely have to be committed to avoid lock ups, but I'm a bit hesitant to do that currently.
I never thought I'd have a lock up until a few weeks back when I locked up while I was fully committed at ~40mph and went flipping down the lot.
I've since been locking up a lot, but I think it's because I'm being a vag about my technique (I use to come in hot, throw weight forward, and immediately pick it up after letting off the gas/pulling in the clutch).
I went back in the lot a few days later and noticed a sand strip around where I had locked up at - I think that was my problem. I've noticed during the day I have absolutely 0 problems locking up, but at night I definitely have to be committed to avoid lock ups, but I'm a bit hesitant to do that currently.
I have everything on almost full stiff. I also have Racetech Gold Valves and springs +15w oil in my pogo sticks. Makes a HUGE difference while at the BP. Very predictable at all times. That technique u WERE using was def a better one than the one ur using now buddy
#36
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I've definitely noticed at night time I have a lot more lockups, but I guess that's pretty obvious why (no sun/colder temps = much, much colder pavement). I've also been playing with what it takes to get my tire to warm up so I have less lockups (still using a poor technique).
When I was first starting to roll I was rolling a lot at night and had zero problems, but good technique. Never noticed a difference in my traction between night and day or warm and cold front tire (I'd pick them up fast right after unloading with zero warmup).
So, in summary, after all these observations of my tire's performance I've learned that the real trump card lies in my technique
#37
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U just have to be 100% confident in ur setup is what it boils down to. If ur tire is warm, as well as ur brakes and...ur damper is on it normal settings for rolling stoppies (IF u even use one) then it all allows u to focus on height and ur BP. My bike is setup to work the same EVERYTIME. I wont even think about jacking one up till i know all those variables are out of the way. On my 929 when I was rolling nothing but stoppies on it, I would unload it, ride around at high speed dragging the brakes for about 5 solid min. Sometimes even locking up the tire 10 times, 25-30 ft at a time to make sure it was at temp. Dampers on... my first endo out of the box from a 300ft approach was in the 475 range and then increasing height till i got comfortable with my body position and the things I do for input at the BP. Point here is once ur completely CONFIDENT in ur setup, u can roll as far as ur willing to try and push urself.
#39
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dont use a slick for endos...not needed by any means. actually will be worse for endos bc you will NEVER get it heated to it's ideal running temp simply by doing endos, even if you did them over and over.
slicks even for amateur roadracers is not a good idea bc they dont put enough heat into them.
get a metzler dot race front...it's what i used long ago and what i use now.
slicks even for amateur roadracers is not a good idea bc they dont put enough heat into them.
get a metzler dot race front...it's what i used long ago and what i use now.
#40
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full stiff, my preference also...eliminates the variables and leaves it up to your two fingers to modulate height