Powder Coating/Painting frame?
#1
Powder Coating/Painting frame?
Was going to Powder coat my 03 GSXR frame but it has a small hairline crack that happened years ago and never got any bigger since. Not worried about breaking or getting bigger but im thinking if i Powder Coat it the high heat of the process might make it worse. ????
Anyone have any good advise on painting a frame/swingarm instead?
Anyone have luck with it holding up over time?
Wanting to do it all FLAT BLACK.
Anyone have any good advise on painting a frame/swingarm instead?
Anyone have luck with it holding up over time?
Wanting to do it all FLAT BLACK.
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Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
The problem if you powdercoat it and it starts to chip you cant powder coat over again without removing all of it, but paint you could skimp and feather in if you wanted, id go paint on this one.
#3
Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
...it wont make it better!
if you are gonna leave the crack, then rattle can it because theres no sense in putting money or time of powdercoating into a frame that will eventually snap!
but if your gonna be smart.. and get the frame repaired. haha. then have a good welder repair the frame and properly heat treat it. most people dont heat treat and then you have a soft frame that is just as bad as a cracked one. powdercoating alone wont weakn a frame enough to make a diffrence, but why waste money on a cracked frame ya know... cause we all know them gixxer frames are weak like stock05s mom
if you are gonna leave the crack, then rattle can it because theres no sense in putting money or time of powdercoating into a frame that will eventually snap!
but if your gonna be smart.. and get the frame repaired. haha. then have a good welder repair the frame and properly heat treat it. most people dont heat treat and then you have a soft frame that is just as bad as a cracked one. powdercoating alone wont weakn a frame enough to make a diffrence, but why waste money on a cracked frame ya know... cause we all know them gixxer frames are weak like stock05s mom
#4
Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
hahaha hmmm worry about powdercoat chipping or frame cracking
hahaha weld that **** son
#5
Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
...it wont make it better!
if you are gonna leave the crack, then rattle can it because theres no sense in putting money or time of powdercoating into a frame that will eventually snap!
but if your gonna be smart.. and get the frame repaired. haha. then have a good welder repair the frame and properly heat treat it. most people dont heat treat and then you have a soft frame that is just as bad as a cracked one. powdercoating alone wont weakn a frame enough to make a diffrence, but why waste money on a cracked frame ya know... cause we all know them gixxer frames are weak like stock05s mom
if you are gonna leave the crack, then rattle can it because theres no sense in putting money or time of powdercoating into a frame that will eventually snap!
but if your gonna be smart.. and get the frame repaired. haha. then have a good welder repair the frame and properly heat treat it. most people dont heat treat and then you have a soft frame that is just as bad as a cracked one. powdercoating alone wont weakn a frame enough to make a diffrence, but why waste money on a cracked frame ya know... cause we all know them gixxer frames are weak like stock05s mom
Thanks for the advise on getting it Heat Treated. Ill look into that.
#6
Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
If you want to flat black just rattle can it.
Mine is all paint.....it really is the prep work....plus if you get tired of it you can repaint it....try repowder coating its not fun.
Mine is all paint.....it really is the prep work....plus if you get tired of it you can repaint it....try repowder coating its not fun.
#7
Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
listen,get the frame welded by someone who knows what they are doing.like a really good tig welder.then bring it in and have them powder coat it.it gets sand blasted anyways so you wont even see the weld if the coaters are good.
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Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
Talk to ysrrider on hear he has his own powder coating shop he will give you the run down on this. As for what i think I would have it welded and wile you are at it have the welder reinforce the frame on both sides to prevent it from happining again.
#12
Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
get it tig welded and it should be fine... make sure its someone that knows what they are doing.
as far as the powder coating.... you can re-coat over powder coating, there are a few methods of doing this. personally, I would get some paint stripper from Menards, the stuff that removes up to 5 layers of paint. it works well on powder coating, strip the powder, power wash the frame and have it media blasted ASAP I suggest 80 mesh or finer aluminum oxide at no more than 60PSI in a blast room. that will give you the sexiest blasted finish to either paint or powder coat over. I wouldnt leave the remover sit on the aluminum long before blasting.
those are your options, do what you will.
as far as the powder coating.... you can re-coat over powder coating, there are a few methods of doing this. personally, I would get some paint stripper from Menards, the stuff that removes up to 5 layers of paint. it works well on powder coating, strip the powder, power wash the frame and have it media blasted ASAP I suggest 80 mesh or finer aluminum oxide at no more than 60PSI in a blast room. that will give you the sexiest blasted finish to either paint or powder coat over. I wouldnt leave the remover sit on the aluminum long before blasting.
those are your options, do what you will.
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Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
If you want to strip powder coat, even thou you dont have to...You can easily scuff the old powder, spary with iron phosphate and recoat...But if you really want to strip old powder or any kind of paint for that matter, nothing works better then chemical stripping...
I drop off 2-4 complete bikes at a time, they put them in big basket dip them in chemicals and they come out clean as hell...And without removing any material from the parts like media blasting usually does...
I drop off 2-4 complete bikes at a time, they put them in big basket dip them in chemicals and they come out clean as hell...And without removing any material from the parts like media blasting usually does...
#14
Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
Dude sell that bike to some unsuspecting person not mentioning the crack, or get a new frame..
What are you gonna do when you mouse trap a coaster at 40mph and your frame busts??
Crack in the frame of a bike that's known for the frame sheering off?? FORGET THAT! Get rid of that death trap.
if you weld it and don't heat treat it, wont you just make it brittle and prone to breaking again?
What are you gonna do when you mouse trap a coaster at 40mph and your frame busts??
Crack in the frame of a bike that's known for the frame sheering off?? FORGET THAT! Get rid of that death trap.
if you weld it and don't heat treat it, wont you just make it brittle and prone to breaking again?
Last edited by Towlieee; 11-12-2008 at 01:02 PM.
#15
Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
theres some chemical spray you can use to prep the surface really well for paint. if you wanna do it yourself ill find out what its called again. i dont have the money for powder coating so i was gonna use that and some wrinkle black, its kinda like a low gloss black with snowflake type wrinkles in it, on my frame when i have the time. but you should be ableto find both at your local auto store or maybe home depot. heres a pic of that the wrinkle black looks like
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTefjgGx...nkle_black.jpg
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTefjgGx...nkle_black.jpg
Last edited by dippah; 11-12-2008 at 01:12 PM.
#16
Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
If you want to strip powder coat, even thou you dont have to...You can easily scuff the old powder, spary with iron phosphate and recoat...But if you really want to strip old powder or any kind of paint for that matter, nothing works better then chemical stripping...
I drop off 2-4 complete bikes at a time, they put them in big basket dip them in chemicals and they come out clean as hell...And without removing any material from the parts like media blasting usually does...
I drop off 2-4 complete bikes at a time, they put them in big basket dip them in chemicals and they come out clean as hell...And without removing any material from the parts like media blasting usually does...
#17
Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
So there is a way to weld and reinforce the frame properly?? Starting to get a little paranoid about a welder anywhere near the frame from all the talk of it weakening.
The frame has been through hell and the crack never got bigger so it seems pretty strong still. Its no longer going to the lot. Still kinda in the back of my mind though if you know what i mean. Redoing the whole bike for a cruiser bike now. Still got the 900 for the lot.
Last edited by BIG BOZE; 11-12-2008 at 02:36 PM.
#18
Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
Thanks for the advise guys.
So there is a way to weld and reinforce the frame properly?? Starting to get a little paranoid about a welder anywhere near the frame from all the talk of it weakening.
The frame has been through hell and the crack never got bigger so it seems pretty strong still. Its no longer going to the lot. Redoing the whole bike for a cruiser bike now. Still got the 900 for the lot.
So there is a way to weld and reinforce the frame properly?? Starting to get a little paranoid about a welder anywhere near the frame from all the talk of it weakening.
The frame has been through hell and the crack never got bigger so it seems pretty strong still. Its no longer going to the lot. Redoing the whole bike for a cruiser bike now. Still got the 900 for the lot.
Definitely fix it, get a new frame, or sell it!
especially if your ognna ride streets! Don't wanna pick your wheel up at 70mph, and set it down and have your forks separate from the bike..
#19
Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
Thanks for the advise guys.
So there is a way to weld and reinforce the frame properly?? Starting to get a little paranoid about a welder anywhere near the frame from all the talk of it weakening.
The frame has been through hell and the crack never got bigger so it seems pretty strong still. Its no longer going to the lot. Still kinda in the back of my mind though if you know what i mean. Redoing the whole bike for a cruiser bike now. Still got the 900 for the lot.
So there is a way to weld and reinforce the frame properly?? Starting to get a little paranoid about a welder anywhere near the frame from all the talk of it weakening.
The frame has been through hell and the crack never got bigger so it seems pretty strong still. Its no longer going to the lot. Still kinda in the back of my mind though if you know what i mean. Redoing the whole bike for a cruiser bike now. Still got the 900 for the lot.
#20
Re: Powder Coating/Painting frame?
If you want to strip powder coat, even thou you dont have to...You can easily scuff the old powder, spary with iron phosphate and recoat...But if you really want to strip old powder or any kind of paint for that matter, nothing works better then chemical stripping...
I drop off 2-4 complete bikes at a time, they put them in big basket dip them in chemicals and they come out clean as hell...And without removing any material from the parts like media blasting usually does...
I drop off 2-4 complete bikes at a time, they put them in big basket dip them in chemicals and they come out clean as hell...And without removing any material from the parts like media blasting usually does...