636 kleen air
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636 kleen air
ok did the kleen air mod on my 03 636 and im learning stalls now and the other day i held it up for maybe 10secs and jumped back on rode to the end of the lot and when i brought it down it poored smoke for a min or so....so did i do something wrong? cuz i know its gonna smoke a lil but its was really bad
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Re: 636 kleen air
I got the same problem. i did the kleen air mod and my bike smokes like crazy when I try a stall trick. I keep the oil level in the middle of min and max mark on the sight glass. I checked out the kleen air system when I had a 636 motor apart. The kleen air ports on the valved cover go into the cylinder head and dump out at the exhaust ports. So when it smoked bad its ok because the oil is just dumping into the exhaust and burns out instead of dumping into your airbox and being burned in the combustion chamber.
I still hate when it smokes so I just gave up on the stall tricks
other riders have done the kleen air mod and have had no issues
I still hate when it smokes so I just gave up on the stall tricks
other riders have done the kleen air mod and have had no issues
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Re: 636 kleen air
i have mine filled to the top of the site glass and it doesn't smoke unless i have it past twelve for a while ...
and like some one else said if there is smoke coming out your pipe thats oil that would have been going in your air box so the mod is working ..
if you are getting smoke from just doing stalls then you are either holding the bike past twelve or you have too much oil ..
and like some one else said if there is smoke coming out your pipe thats oil that would have been going in your air box so the mod is working ..
if you are getting smoke from just doing stalls then you are either holding the bike past twelve or you have too much oil ..
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Re: 636 kleen air
Im thinkn of running a vent to a catch bottle similar to radiator over flow set up. id rather alil bit of oil goin in the over flow bottle an maybe out on the ground then run throu my cycl. cause if i do alot of stalls it still smokes an runs like crap an fouls my plugs. and then my bike sounds like hot garbage and runs like a f4i hahaha
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Re: 636 kleen air
Im thinkn of running a vent to a catch bottle similar to radiator over flow set up. id rather alil bit of oil goin in the over flow bottle an maybe out on the ground then run throu my cycl. cause if i do alot of stalls it still smokes an runs like crap an fouls my plugs. and then my bike sounds like hot garbage and runs like a f4i hahaha
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Re: 636 kleen air
well im not possible that it gets in cylinder but when it happens it defientyl doesnt sounds as smooth running. to be honest there is very little or no power loss all thou i do have anotehr problem not sure if its from bike overheating an plugs going bad or!? but the motor sounds like garbage at a certain rpm. it came with a power commander so i might try dyno tuning cause it has full exhaust, yoshimura.
but with the oil thing i also dont like at shows when it happens an i smoke out everyone an i lose oil, id rather have a catch can that will atleast save some oil an no more smoke.... unless im burning rubber haha
but with the oil thing i also dont like at shows when it happens an i smoke out everyone an i lose oil, id rather have a catch can that will atleast save some oil an no more smoke.... unless im burning rubber haha
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Re: 636 kleen air
well im not possible that it gets in cylinder but when it happens it defientyl doesnt sounds as smooth running. to be honest there is very little or no power loss all thou i do have anotehr problem not sure if its from bike overheating an plugs going bad or!? but the motor sounds like garbage at a certain rpm. it came with a power commander so i might try dyno tuning cause it has full exhaust, yoshimura.
but with the oil thing i also dont like at shows when it happens an i smoke out everyone an i lose oil, id rather have a catch can that will atleast save some oil an no more smoke.... unless im burning rubber haha
but with the oil thing i also dont like at shows when it happens an i smoke out everyone an i lose oil, id rather have a catch can that will atleast save some oil an no more smoke.... unless im burning rubber haha
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Re: 636 kleen air
thats strange cause my bar is way past 12 and i put it on the bar all the time and never get any smoke unless i leave it there running for a long time , i keep my oil at the top of the site glass
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Re: 636 kleen air
2 it keeps all the hot oily cranckcase fumes out of your air box which is a power loss
3 it creates a vacuum in your cranckcase which creates low end power and a better pull on idle
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Re: 636 kleen air
see alil higher idle sometimes an maybe alil longer at 12 position is my problem?
and the vaccum... ive noticed my oil fill cap under pressure not vaccum after i turned my bike on before so are you sure?!
and the vaccum... ive noticed my oil fill cap under pressure not vaccum after i turned my bike on before so are you sure?!
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Re: 636 kleen air
I had a mechanic supposedly do the kleen air mod on my bike back in the day and like 3 or 4 sessions later my motor grenaded. Does the kleen air mod create crank case pressure? If so where does the pressure go when it builds up too much? Im the kind of rider that lives on the rev limiter. Too much pressure could go boom right?