636 kleen air
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Re: 636 kleen air
I had a mechanic supposedly do the kleen air mod on my bike back in the day and like 3 or 4 sessions later my motor grenaded. Does the kleen air mod create crank case pressure? If so where does the pressure go when it builds up too much? Im the kind of rider that lives on the rev limiter. Too much pressure could go boom right?
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Re: 636 kleen air
if you have pressure then you may have a pinched hose or you didn't dissable the pair valve ...
the mod when done correctly does not create pressure it creates a vacuum via reed valves in your valve cover that are ported to your exhaust , the reed valves make it impossible for it to build pressure unless like i mentioned above some one forgets to un plug the pair valve then if the pair valve closes there will be pressure but when done correctly there is a vacuum
the mod when done correctly does not create pressure it creates a vacuum via reed valves in your valve cover that are ported to your exhaust , the reed valves make it impossible for it to build pressure unless like i mentioned above some one forgets to un plug the pair valve then if the pair valve closes there will be pressure but when done correctly there is a vacuum
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Re: 636 kleen air
Word. So I read the thread with your instructions. Seems easy. I may have to give it a try. Plug the vacuum hose off the T with a screw and connect the T to the crank vent hose. Easy enough. My idle sucks right now so maybe this will help it. If I kill my idle with the brake it takes a few seconds to build back up to where its set. Its kicking my ***! It may be my throttle bodies need a good synching though.
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Re: 636 kleen air
throttlebodie sync could help but dount thats the problem. kleen air could help too. but id more lean to something is causeing drag or something like that.... brakes or chain or bearings or your foot still on brake :P
but omr, no pair valve on its jus a t on top connected to vent on case.
it was after the bike was off... i dunno?!
but i know its done right an i know no pinches.
on my f4i an 06 R1 i ended up blocking off top of head, with covers on r1 an caps on f4i, then running a a vent hose down to lowset point of frame an ziptied it with a mini filter....
never had any problems or noticed any significant amount of seepage! haha
i think im doing same on 636 to stop the smoke!
2nd hand smoke kills
but omr, no pair valve on its jus a t on top connected to vent on case.
it was after the bike was off... i dunno?!
but i know its done right an i know no pinches.
on my f4i an 06 R1 i ended up blocking off top of head, with covers on r1 an caps on f4i, then running a a vent hose down to lowset point of frame an ziptied it with a mini filter....
never had any problems or noticed any significant amount of seepage! haha
i think im doing same on 636 to stop the smoke!
2nd hand smoke kills
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but i fully understand the concept the use an have delt with many, esp. on many 2 stroke Db's:YEAH
im jus sayn haha... i have no idea... maybe was something to do with bike being hot an sitn for awhile or!?
oh i also have blown a valve cover gasket in the past... not sure if there related!?
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Re: 636 kleen air
i appreciate the explaination of the reeds
but i fully understand the concept the use an have delt with many, esp. on many 2 stroke Db's:YEAH
im jus sayn haha... i have no idea... maybe was something to do with bike being hot an sitn for awhile or!?
oh i also have blown a valve cover gasket in the past... not sure if there related!?
but i fully understand the concept the use an have delt with many, esp. on many 2 stroke Db's:YEAH
im jus sayn haha... i have no idea... maybe was something to do with bike being hot an sitn for awhile or!?
oh i also have blown a valve cover gasket in the past... not sure if there related!?
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Re: 636 kleen air
another thing that can cause pressure is excessive blow by but that would only cause pressure while the bike was running and would vent immediately after the motor was turned off
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Re: 636 kleen air
they are in your valve cover right under each hose that goes to your pair valve ..there is a port underneath the reed valve that goes directly to the exhaust port
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Re: 636 kleen air
ya ima take em apart tommorow night an see. i jus was never sure if they dumper after the exhaust valve or?! but i guess theyd have to know that i THINK about it hahaha
ill let ya know how it goes haha
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