slow wheelies
06-17-2008, 01:46 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
I see squids as people who ride outside their abilitys.
My friend, been riding a total of 6 months. I don't see him as a squid. Because he ALWAYS wears his jacket, gloves, helmet, and he NEVER tries to wheelie, race, tuck turns, anything. He just cruises around every once in a while.
Then again, I know people that have rode 4 years now, owe 7k on their bike, talk about how they can stunt, talk about when they get a set of dirt bike bars, a sprocket, and hand brake how they'll out stunt me and ****.. Now they ARE squids
That, and people that buy brand new bikes, hit the parkway with me, and wreck out in the first turn.. Pushing them selves way to hard way to fast, and squiding straight into the pavement
edit (btw the whole someone following me on the parkway and wrecking out the FIRST turn, has literally happened THREE times in groups I've been with lol)
06-17-2008, 01:47 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
NO... again, you are WRONG!!! A squid is someone who ACTS LIKE THEIR **** DOESN'T stink and thinks they are the ****. THAT'S A SQUID and right now you are bordering on that line between being an inexperienced youngin' and a squid. Dirt bikes are TOYS (unless it's a 450+ bike, then we are talking a bike that actually has girth and power to it) and comparing a little dirtbike to a street bike is just plain retarded. THEY ARE NOTHING ALIKE other than they have 2 wheels, gas, brake and a clutch!
06-17-2008, 01:49 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
BIG BEN or should I say LITTLE BEN... you are 15. You are at the phase in life where you THINK you know everything, but you don't. Shut your mouth and learn, until you have ACTUALLY rode a street bike on 1 wheel then seriously, quit trying to argue your point. You are starting down the path of a Kelm, only WORSE. Seriously, you DON'T know what you are talking about!!
im gettin sick of hearing the squid **** thrown around too. its old and ******* stupid! especially after having 3 ******* threads on here about it last week
06-17-2008, 01:51 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
yea guys....if you start out w a stock bike it's going to hold you back...only it just gets you interested in doing dumb things, after a year of that, ya gotta buy some stunt gear and deck the bike out, cage, pegs etc....esp' gearing! going slow on stock gears being a squid iz the *****....
06-17-2008, 01:51 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
yea guys....if you start out w a stock bike it's going to hold you back...only it just gets you interested in doing dumb things, after a year of that, ya gotta buy some stunt gear and deck the bike out, cage, pegs etc....esp' gearing! trying to go slow on stock gears being a squid iz the *****.... AND YEA I FUCKED THAT UP GOOD!
06-17-2008, 01:54 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
NO... again, you are WRONG!!! A squid is someone who ACTS LIKE THEIR **** DOESN'T stink and thinks they are the ****. THAT'S A SQUID and right now you are bordering on that line between being an inexperienced youngin' and a squid. Dirt bikes are TOYS (unless it's a 450+ bike, then we are talking a bike that actually has girth and power to it) and comparing a little dirtbike to a street bike is just plain retarded. THEY ARE NOTHING ALIKE other than they have 2 wheels, gas, brake and a clutch!
06-17-2008, 01:55 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
I agree with Poni, if I had stock gearing and tried to learn on that I think I would have only hindered myself. Now the 1 thing I did that made me much better with the FB was NOT GETTING A HB until I absolutely needed it. And even so, I probably still don't need a HB but I can't guaran-damn-tee you that if I had got a HB right out of the shoot I would be kicking myself as we speak.
06-17-2008, 01:55 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
I agree with Poni, if I had stock gearing and tried to learn on that I think I would have only hindered myself. Now the 1 thing I did that made me much better with the FB was NOT GETTING A HB until I absolutely needed it. And even so, I probably still don't need a HB but I can't guaran-damn-tee you that if I had got a HB right out of the shoot I would be kicking myself as we speak.
06-17-2008, 01:55 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
yea guys....if you start out w a stock bike it's going to hold you back...only it just gets you interested in doing dumb things, after a year of that, ya gotta buy some stunt gear and deck the bike out, cage, pegs etc....esp' gearing! going slow on stock gears being a squid iz the *****....
AGAIN!!! it all depends on the rider!!! gearing and all that stunt bullshit is preference!
and time riding doesnt have **** to do with how good you are. ive been riding less than half a year. from the first time i clutched up a wheelie EVER till right now. im learning quick as hell, but just cause i havent been riding for years doesnt mean that i suck
06-17-2008, 01:56 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
I agree with Poni, if I had stock gearing and tried to learn on that I think I would have only hindered myself. Now the 1 thing I did that made me much better with the FB was NOT GETTING A HB until I absolutely needed it. And even so, I probably still don't need a HB but I can guaran-damn-tee you that if I had got a HB right out of the shoot I would be kicking myself as we speak.
06-17-2008, 01:59 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
im not saying they r. what i am saying is they r using the same principals for stuntriding. both use bp's, torque, inertia, centrifical (dont know if i spelled that right) effect, etc... those theories and principals r universal and can b applied to both. weight and power differences just have to b learned, after that........
06-17-2008, 02:00 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
I agree with Poni, if I had stock gearing and tried to learn on that I think I would have only hindered myself. Now the 1 thing I did that made me much better with the FB was NOT GETTING A HB until I absolutely needed it. And even so, I probably still don't need a HB but I can guaran-damn-tee you that if I had got a HB right out of the shoot I would be kicking myself as we speak.
06-17-2008, 02:01 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
im not saying they r. what i am saying is they r using the same principals for stuntriding. both use bp's, torque, inertia, centrifical (dont know if i spelled that right) effect, etc... those theories and principals r universal and can b applied to both. weight and power differences just have to b learned, after that........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force
Definition of "Inertia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertia
Learn your physics kid. You are completely contradicting yourself when you say centrifugal and inertia. You are talking 2 different types of resistance here, one being outward and one being in a straight line. If you talk about BP, then yes... BP necessary. But everything else you are saying is COMPLETELY different on a big bike vs. a small bike. Right now, you think b/c you can do this on a dirt bike it shouldn't be "that" hard to pick up on a big bike...... WRONG!!!!! It's extremely difficult and ALL WE are trying to say is don't think it's similar b/c it's not. The VERY BASIC principals are similar, but other than that... that's where it stops!
06-17-2008, 02:02 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
ok. ill b apples u b orangges. i do special k circles in 2nd and pop the clutch, no hb. how do u do 'em?
06-17-2008, 02:07 PM
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06-17-2008, 02:07 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
Hi Farley! Hi Matt!
I've been learning on stock....but i think it has held me back from catching idle. 54t should be in this week.
dirtbikes scare me, they are so light and lacking in power i don't know what to do with them.
and i agree this kid is acting like a typical "i have it all figured out" adolescent.
I've been learning on stock....but i think it has held me back from catching idle. 54t should be in this week.
dirtbikes scare me, they are so light and lacking in power i don't know what to do with them.
and i agree this kid is acting like a typical "i have it all figured out" adolescent.
06-17-2008, 02:09 PM
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Re: slow wheelies
low power, tons of engine brake, low weight so its easy to do off peg tricks without a hand brake
TOTALLY different then a sport bike.. I'd LOVE to see you do anything off peg without a hand brake
edit: btw about stock gearing vs not stock
Personally I learned on stock, and I loved it.. I'd go back to stock gearing in a heard beat, IF I wasn't loving circles..
Rocking idle wheelies at 2,200 rpm with stock gearing... mmmm was fun
I personally don't think gearing makes learning IDLE any easier, I just think it helps with SLOOW speed stuff where you must either slip the clutch, or faster..
Like circles, where I'd always stall them out, or only hit 1-2 with stock gearing. But with aftermarket gears the bike would run soo much better at low end I can keep them going and rarely stall out
Last edited by Towlieee; 06-17-2008 at 02:13 PM.
