like i said im asking about this bike in particular....I will admit I dont "murder" on any of the bikes i have had....i am NOT a good stunter...i just love doing wheelies...but who doesnt on here u know?? maybe what I am lacking is BP....because i have trouble keeping a consistent speed and alwyas seem to gain speed as im going....hence "power wheelie" maybe it is my method....im not sure...bu do love doing them....thats why im thinking maybe to "gear it" i may be able to slow it down a little instead of setting it down at a 100+....if u know what i mean.......I may be wrong and I am admitting that but that is WHY I am asking professionals....so ur advice helps even if I feel Bashed...lol

 

Geearing will make it HARDER to ride a controlled wheelie



Just leave it stock, and keep working on getting it higher, and working on the brake more

 

so im going to tell you AGAIN, you can ask the question a million times to a million different ppl the correct answer is still. gearing does NOT slow your wheelies down. its only going make the front end lift quicker with each increment of throttle that YOU give it. it will add engine breaking which means its harder to reach balance point. the only way to slow a bike down is to ride the wheelie beyond the balance point so that youre either riding the brake or just running on engine braking. im not saying to gear your bike or not, im just trying to make you aware that it is not the solution to your problem. your problem is that you dont have enough experience riding bp wheelies and need to keep at it rather you gear your bike or not it still comes down to you giving the bike enough gas to put the front end as high as it needs to be to not gain speed and or actually slow the wheelie down, which is ALOT higher than you think it is. end of discussion, next question.

 

great advice ....

 

ok......i get it, ......i suck...keep practicing......point taken

 

well the great thing about sucking at wheelies is that its not a permanent affliction and with lots of riding and a bit of careful thought you will get better and better and one day youll be on here answering these questions lol yayyy for you hahaha.

 

everybody sucks at one point in life... just keep practicing or come to my wheelie school... i can teach you brake control and bp in 3 hours with my wheelie machine... the class is 250 bucks guaranteed results... so just trailer your bike to va... and lets get it popping... i will have you rocking bp wheelies in no time :YEAH

 

sick part is on my fiddy, in any gear......mile long wheelies (or until wrist pump), standups, highchairs, spreaders are no problem......once i got this thing and practiced my *** off, i got awesome on it.......but it did help alot when i got a lil better on the big bike...best thing i learned is rear brake......i have complete confidence in my rear brake control on it....and my RR...........i guess once agaion it is just a case of "*****".....

 

only thing bad about a 50 is that although it does give you a sense of the rear brake it also gives you shitty throttle control habits cuz those things need an arm pump full of gas lol

 

I like gearing for the increased engine braking and it comes up faster without so much clutch slip. It just feels a bit easier on the bike. But of course, I like it because I'm not as good as I ought to be with the rear brake. I've had the 1000RR for about a month and it doesn't really need gearing and if you can get it up no problem then I don't see why it would be an issue. But even so, I'll eventually go -1 in front.

 

Okay, i'll tell you exactly what you need to know becuz 1000rr's ive had many, and did many different things to them.

first of sprockets. the stock rear is 41, the 03-06 600rrs got stock 43 which u can use. this will fit with the stock chain.

The 43 sprocket makes it notably easier to pull the bike up, and once you can get to balance point, then it makes it easier to maintain it. if you're not at that level and you still play with the trottle alot, then it wont help you, and if thats the case then definitely dont touch the front sprocket.

The final setup i settled on was 15t in the front 43t in the rear, stock chain. with that setup you will loose like 15-20mph on the top-end the bike will max out reading 183-189 when actually doing 160's, but you are guaranteed to outrun any gsxr1000, r1 or zx10 until about 130mph, which was fine with me because above 130 isnt a place i like to be anyway.

I would recommend the rear sprocket only, the front sprocket makes the bike extra twitchy and is no good (for wheelies) unless you really know what ur doing.

BTW: on a whole, the 1000rr really isnt a great bike for wheelies, because of its wheelbase as well as the way the weight is distributed, its really designed to run and doesnt like to come up, but hey, if a guy can stunt a stretched gsxr, then i guess anything can be stunted once u get used to it.

 

mines set up -1 fr. & +2 rear it sounds like this set up could work for u, but the best thing I did to improve was to GET AN F-4i :YEAH :YEAH

nah, for rizzy try that. HOLLA

p.s. stock chain

 

U Can Keep The Stock Chain, +2 In The Rear For My 06 636 I Had The Same Chain, But When I Went Up +3 In The Rear I Needed A Bigger Chain.

 

I rarely go over 130+ cuzz at my age i wanna live past 31...lol.....I basically jsut ride around and do wheelies....I do realize this bike is not exactly the best stunt bike but all i do is wheelies, nothing else......I believe u said +2 in the back and i can keep the stock chain? Ill probly try that out but im gonna stay stock for another 2 months til' i get back from bike week......what is the stock teeth on my rear 06 cbr 100rr? 41??? I had down 1 and up 2 on my old 92' f2 and it was real twitchy for what i did......if anything ill go up 2 or 3 on the back and go from there later on in summer.......thanks for all the advice

 

stock on the 06 1000RR is front 16, rear 42

the 04, 05 is 16, 41

extra info on power loss/gains: http://cbrtech.dyndns.org:8080/cbrtech/gearing.php

 

What the squid? That sounds like the biggest load of BS in the thread



Changing your front sprocket, or your rear, is the SAME thing.. It does the SAME thing to the final drive.

The only difference is, going down 1 in the front, would be the same as going up 2.7 in the rear.



Also, gearing does NOT make it easier to hold it at balance point. The motor has PLENTY of power to keep it up.

The ONLY bikes I think that would NEED gearing to HELP keep it up, are bikes like ninja 250, or 500ex.. Where power IS a problem..

Gearing makes a bike more twitchy. So if your ALREADY bucking, and already chasing rev limiter, gearing will just make your wheelies more twitchy, and shorter..


You sound like every guy I meet with a 1000 that can't carry a wheelie for more then a mile, and never seen balance point...

They always say the same thing when I had my f4i 600 stock geared "How were you passing us in wheelies on the highway? What gear you were you in? Do you have sprockets?"

ANd I'd always be like "I was poping up 3rd gear at 70"

There response is always the same "Holy **** 3rd gear?! I didn't know a 600 could bring it up in 3rd, my 1000 can't even come up in 3rd!"





edit: I'd recommend the EXACT same way to re-gear as I did with my f4i..

Wait tell you can ride under 10mph ON IDLE with NO throttle input.. Basically if you can't take your hand off the throttle mid wheelie and keep it up, forget gears..
Keep stock tell you begin to do coasters/scrape tail...

THEN re-gear that bitch



You should see my friend trying to learn idle, with +20 -2 on his f4i.. Its hilarious.. At the beginging of the day its always him BUCKING back and forth across the lot tell he gets comfortable again and can hold idle lol

 

that is why after doing extensive reading on here that im just gonna leave it be and change **** down the road as i get better.....its a matter of seat time and practicing for me...i have all the tools, just need to go out and use them to get better......:YEAH ....Bp is crucial .......i need to get there before i do anything

 

stock done stank!

 

Bro, u stole my bike......and put a lil different pipe on it.....sweet pic

 

its all bout time dude, took me a while to get no throttle hand on tha 1jigga

i just threw a hb on it and almost blew off my pipe yesterday! haha air bubbles