Originally Posted by chpsk8er630

didnt know anything about any defensive driving course or anything like that in pa but there might be. I'm just hoping I get a nice judge that will offer to drop points cause I got nothing else on my record.

Originally Posted by Nasty_Bitch

One thing that might help in the future is to get one of those secret blue line stickers at http://thegeorgiaspeedingticketkille..._blue_line.php

And put it on the back of your helmet so the po-po can see it. That could help you avoid getting a ticket in the first place if you look like you're one of the 'ol boys.

Originally Posted by sdfkillz

thats nice if youre a resident of ga

Originally Posted by sdfkillz

if u do get any points just go take a defenseive driving course. its like 6 hours on a saturday of listening to some dick lecture and watch some vids. then it reduces your insurance by 15% and removes up to 4 points off your license. atleast thats how it works in ny.

Originally Posted by chpsk8er630

didnt know anything about any defensive driving course or anything like that in pa but there might be. I'm just hoping I get a nice judge that will offer to drop points cause I got nothing else on my record.

Originally Posted by lee majors

+1

but still get a lawyer or they'll prob nail you to the wall. if you can't afford a lawyer and\or want to try to take care of it yourself, i suggest this. go to your court date and when the judge calls your case, tell him you would like a supporting depostion. simply put, a depostion is a written statement by the cop telling all that happened. the court date will be rescheduled and if the cop doesn't produce the deposition by the next court date, usually the case is dismissed. i got out of a couple tickets this way. good luck!

Originally Posted by shotta

sdfkillz,
i see ur location says baltimore & ny. im assuming u mean the burrows. in the cities as i said with traffic and all the blocks, you can wiggle your way out if your a descent enough rider. ive done it enough times myself on 600's also. but the rest of the country isnt really setup like that. the highway aint no joke. I once got chased from exit 22 on the southern state, and i couldnt shake them until i jumped off the belt at merrick in queens, and i was on my duc 998 doing it. So it may sound cool but the reality of it is different. i ran because i just picked my **** back up from the dealer who was selling it for me, expired tags, no regi, no insurance, speeding, and my liscence was suspended, so i had no choice on that one, cuz it was straight to central booking if i stopped, and that was a friday evening. meaning it would of been a wrap until monday. + the charges/ tickets, impounding and all that, so its a last resort thing. I wouldnt run to get out of a bs ticket which is only going to cost a few dollars.

DON'T PAY THAT TICKET!!! Its ur first one it will **** u up from here on out. do everything to beat it. once they get u the first time, its over after that, everytime you have to go to court after this they will look at that 1 thing and assume ur guilty! works the same way with crime that why they try to arrest kids as young as possible no matter how petty it is so by the time their 16-17 they already got a long list of bs that it just looks bad. FIGHT IT!

Originally Posted by sdfkillz

you repeated my previous post nearly to the word.

Originally Posted by lee majors

+1

but still get a lawyer or they'll prob nail you to the wall. if you can't afford a lawyer and\or want to try to take care of it yourself, i suggest this. go to your court date and when the judge calls your case, tell him you would like a supporting depostion. simply put, a depostion is a written statement by the cop telling all that happened. the court date will be rescheduled and if the cop doesn't produce the deposition by the next court date, usually the case is dismissed. i got out of a couple tickets this way. good luck!

Originally Posted by chpsk8er630

Ill try it and see how it goes. Got a question though, If the cop shows up, then whats the need for a supporting deposition if he is there to just say what happened?

Originally Posted by lee majors

he can't just state what happened, he has to put it in written form. this is were red tape can be your friend.

but, you are taking a chance, cause if the cop produces the depostion to the court, then the case will go ahead. my two cents, if its only 3 measley points, try the way me and sdf said and if you get convicted, just take the (6 hr)defensive driving course(points dropped).

ps. go to court lookin your best and usin a lot of "yes sir's" when talkin to the judge don't hurt either. remember, the judge has final say here and anything you can do to get him\her on your side helps. if your lucky the judge will have a hard on for the cop that pulled you over. remember, judges actually hate cops, dont know why(shrug), but its true.

edit: you might wanna use "your honor" instead of "sir" when talkin to the judge.

Originally Posted by sdfkillz

not that i recomend anyone run but, burning a cop on a 600 is just as easy on any other bike. the best way of running is not high speed, its quick acceleration hard on the brakes turn , hard accerl, etc. ive smoked cops on everyone of my 600s, stock geared and geared. i dont think ive ever broken 80mph in a chase. cop cars take almost 13 seconds to get to 60 mph where a 600cc is 3 seconds, it aint that hard. aaaaaaaaaaaanyway.... when you go to court, the judge will ask you if u want a lawyer, tell him not at this time and request a supportin deposition. which is basicly an explanation from the officer of what happend. they have 30 days in which to respond in writing to the request, most of the time they dont. and when they dont, by the statute you can make a motion to dismiss based on violation of your rights to a speedy trial. if the DA happens to want to push it (which they wont) u can make a motion to dismiss based on withholdint evidence, because thats what the cops statement is. if they do show up with a supporting deposition, read it carefully for any discrpenacies that would get the case thrown out. schedule for a trial and hope the cop doesnt show, which happens quite often. and if they dont show you will then make a motion to dismiss based on the prosecution not being prepared for trial. yes this **** works, i beat 3 tickets this year alone with these angles, and countless tickets over the years.

Originally Posted by Knoxvillan

Hey Guys, Brand new to stunt life. popping my cherry on this thread, I've been thru this one before. In Tennessee, being that you have no previous record, You can get a judicial diversion, it's a form of probation for first time offenders. If you don't brain **** within the 3 to 10 months of the probation they totally expunge the offense. Put on your shirt, tie, slacks, and sorry face on and plead your case to th D.A. mke sure to check and see if judicial diversion is available where you are though. You probably won't need a lawyer, but they are great for piece of mind, fnes probably cost about $300 (worst case), just tell the D.a or judge, you are new to being in trouble, worried about your record, and made a mistake. They will more than likely plead you down to traffic school, or a probation of some sort. Not that it's easy, but i wouldn't get too caught up in it. It's not really a big deal. I got caught riding a wheelie in downtown Knoxville and got probation from a reckless driving charge under the same circumstances with no record.

Originally Posted by omenR1F4I

I can tell you what I always do to get out of tickets it has worked every time for me. I always schedule a meeting with the traffic Distric Attorney and talk to him and ask him if he would drop the my ticket down to a "non moving violation." Which means you dont have the ticket going on your insurance and you dont get ant points but you do have to pay the full price of the ticket. Like they said earlier dress nice and speak like an educated person "yes sir, no sir".

But the trick is not to wait to long to take care of the ticket because if you wait to long then you have to go to the judge and pled your case to them which never works for me.