*New* Racing905 Subcages
#81
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
But I will say that my 905 12bar has held up decent, I did have to cut off those huge ears off each side though. Too bad I cant get 905 to sponser me some scrape plates, cause I wear through them bitches quick!
#82
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
When I read his post I was thinking I bet 905.com is in his signature, and sure enough it was. lol
But I will say that my 905 12bar has held up decent, I did have to cut off those huge ears off each side though. Too bad I cant get 905 to sponser me some scrape plates, cause I wear through them bitches quick!
But I will say that my 905 12bar has held up decent, I did have to cut off those huge ears off each side though. Too bad I cant get 905 to sponser me some scrape plates, cause I wear through them bitches quick!
but hell all a good 12 bar takes is 3 strong bars, and a couple good welds
Hell built my own 12 bar for my f4i in about a hour, and its built strong as a mother ******. way thicker steel then most 12 bars :YEAH
#83
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
the way people are crashing to bust motor mounts and frames....are some serious crashes...and with those types of crashes ... having the cage snap off the mount.. ( as seen in the pics from previous post..) will also require more replacement than another poorly welded cage with poor material... stripping motor mounts ..IMO.. is due to poor mantainance ..not replacing bolts..and not keeping them tight....
ive seen DOM, and cromoly cages bend before anything else broke... so.... im curious... Does anybody know what material 905 uses for thier cages specifically????? .. the ones they make now.. and the ones they made a few years back.. whatever it is....it shouldnt be more than 100$ for ANYTHING.
Also .. having them weak to save your frame and motor mounts is still no excuse for having poor welds that SIC NATE said arron admitted to for the cages in the past.... EVERYONE LOOK AT THE PICS POSTED and you will see what i mean.
ive seen DOM, and cromoly cages bend before anything else broke... so.... im curious... Does anybody know what material 905 uses for thier cages specifically????? .. the ones they make now.. and the ones they made a few years back.. whatever it is....it shouldnt be more than 100$ for ANYTHING.
Also .. having them weak to save your frame and motor mounts is still no excuse for having poor welds that SIC NATE said arron admitted to for the cages in the past.... EVERYONE LOOK AT THE PICS POSTED and you will see what i mean.
#84
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
My 905 looked EXACTLY like that.... after 2 burnout tip overs.
dude... I don't know you, but.... you're obviously completely ******* clueless.... word son.
You're leading fellow riders in the wrong direction every time you promote any 905 product.
MANY people have had the same results as the pics above.... nobody is lying here... 905 puts out complete CRAP. Plain and simple.
Just because you are paid to promote them dosen't make real world experiences go away.
Here's a crash vid for you..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJQ11VvXOVw
Know what I did after this drop?
Picked my bike up and slammed it about 35 more times that day, just like that and even harder.... my cage is just the same as it was when I got it (minus some rash)... no bends no cracked welds.
+1
I've been there done that...... and like EVERYONE else.... 905 SUCKS.
ONE burnout tip over and 2 welds cracked..... a second tip and the entire motor mount tube ripped completely off the bike.
I will dig up my old pics.... "TRUST ME" they look just like the pics above.... probably even worse.
Just because they did something 1st means nothing........ they started w/ crap and that will leave a bad taste in ANYBODY's mouth....
Oh.. excuse me.... except the people that they give free **** to (literally), and PAY to say their **** is good.
I myself, will NEVER, EVER buy one single piece of 905 GARBAGE EVER AGAIN..... and I will continue to spread the word of my horrible experience w/ them as long as I'm involved in this sport.
Take this from a guy who has ZERO interest in any particular cage company's business. I run what works.... not what I'm paid to run.
dude... I don't know you, but.... you're obviously completely ******* clueless.... word son.
You're leading fellow riders in the wrong direction every time you promote any 905 product.
MANY people have had the same results as the pics above.... nobody is lying here... 905 puts out complete CRAP. Plain and simple.
Just because you are paid to promote them dosen't make real world experiences go away.
Here's a crash vid for you..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJQ11VvXOVw
Know what I did after this drop?
Picked my bike up and slammed it about 35 more times that day, just like that and even harder.... my cage is just the same as it was when I got it (minus some rash)... no bends no cracked welds.
+1
I've been there done that...... and like EVERYONE else.... 905 SUCKS.
ONE burnout tip over and 2 welds cracked..... a second tip and the entire motor mount tube ripped completely off the bike.
I will dig up my old pics.... "TRUST ME" they look just like the pics above.... probably even worse.
Just because they did something 1st means nothing........ they started w/ crap and that will leave a bad taste in ANYBODY's mouth....
Oh.. excuse me.... except the people that they give free **** to (literally), and PAY to say their **** is good.
I myself, will NEVER, EVER buy one single piece of 905 GARBAGE EVER AGAIN..... and I will continue to spread the word of my horrible experience w/ them as long as I'm involved in this sport.
Take this from a guy who has ZERO interest in any particular cage company's business. I run what works.... not what I'm paid to run.
First off 905 doesnt give out cash to hype up their product. They started out in the begenning and everyone jocked their ****. They started mass production and quality went down. Now they are correcting their **** and making their new products better than before. So before you start bashing someone for supposedly "paying someone to say thier **** is good" Re think what you say. And you cant bash one company for giving out free **** when everyone else does the exact same thing. Every company eventually sponsers riders. You can sit there and bash anyone you want to about their product. But make sure you say a correct statement before you pull **** out of your ***! just my
#85
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
905 = junk
we at people who use them.
Stunters never recommend this cage it is known as junk by everyone and if we see someone running it we go inform them about their junk!
Imagine you bought a roll cage for your race car and it folded the first time you rolled. What is the point of that? I think a car weighs a little more than a bike .
Change your name or just make scrape bars cuz ill never go back to 905 or my friends!
we at people who use them.
Stunters never recommend this cage it is known as junk by everyone and if we see someone running it we go inform them about their junk!
Imagine you bought a roll cage for your race car and it folded the first time you rolled. What is the point of that? I think a car weighs a little more than a bike .
Change your name or just make scrape bars cuz ill never go back to 905 or my friends!
#86
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
the way people are crashing to bust motor mounts and frames....are some serious crashes...and with those types of crashes ... having the cage snap off the mount.. ( as seen in the pics from previous post..) will also require more replacement than another poorly welded cage with poor material... stripping motor mounts ..IMO.. is due to poor mantainance ..not replacing bolts..and not keeping them tight....
ive seen DOM, and cromoly cages bend before anything else broke... so.... im curious... Does anybody know what material 905 uses for thier cages specifically????? .. the ones they make now.. and the ones they made a few years back.. whatever it is....it shouldnt be more than 100$ for ANYTHING.
Also .. having them weak to save your frame and motor mounts is still no excuse for having poor welds that SIC NATE said arron admitted to for the cages in the past.... EVERYONE LOOK AT THE PICS POSTED and you will see what i mean.
ive seen DOM, and cromoly cages bend before anything else broke... so.... im curious... Does anybody know what material 905 uses for thier cages specifically????? .. the ones they make now.. and the ones they made a few years back.. whatever it is....it shouldnt be more than 100$ for ANYTHING.
Also .. having them weak to save your frame and motor mounts is still no excuse for having poor welds that SIC NATE said arron admitted to for the cages in the past.... EVERYONE LOOK AT THE PICS POSTED and you will see what i mean.
#87
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
First off 905 doesnt give out cash to hype up their product. They started out in the begenning and everyone jocked their ****. They started mass production and quality went down. Now they are correcting their **** and making their new products better than before. So before you start bashing someone for supposedly "paying someone to say thier **** is good" Re think what you say. And you cant bash one company for giving out free **** when everyone else does the exact same thing. Every company eventually sponsers riders. You can sit there and bash anyone you want to about their product. But make sure you say a correct statement before you pull **** out of your ***! just my
Yea... just like those pic's that I pulled outta my *** right. Learn to read.
I can sit here and bash the **** outta 905 till the bitter end after my own PERSONAL EXPERIENCE W/ THEIR POS CAGE.
Re-think what you just wrote dick bag.... 905 gives free ****(literally) to people in exchange for product promotion. Other companies do the same... what's your point.
My point is I will never take any opinions or advice from a sponsored rider.... why? BECAUSE THEY ARE PAID TO SAY IT'S GOOD... regardless if they think it's true or not. (getting free product is the same as getting paid).
And I never bashed 905 because they sponsor riders... but because THEIR PRODUCT SUCKS ***.
#89
#90
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
Yea... just like those pic's that I pulled outta my *** right. Learn to read.
I can sit here and bash the **** outta 905 till the bitter end after my own PERSONAL EXPERIENCE W/ THEIR POS CAGE.
Re-think what you just wrote dick bag.... 905 gives free ****(literally) to people in exchange for product promotion. Other companies do the same... what's your point.
My point is I will never take any opinions or advice from a sponsored rider.... why? BECAUSE THEY ARE PAID TO SAY IT'S GOOD... regardless if they think it's true or not. (getting free product is the same as getting paid).
And I never bashed 905 because they sponsor riders... but because THEIR PRODUCT SUCKS ***.
Re read your first quote dick bag. You said
"Oh.. excuse me.... except the people that they give free **** to (literally), and PAY to say their **** is good."
So basically that tells me that your saying they pay riders to say their **** is good AND give away free stuff. All I was saying is 905 doesnt put money in anyones pocket. And that is the statement you made, There is no problem with a company giving anyone a product to promote their ****. Wether its good or bad im not saying their **** was 100 % perfect. And getting free products is not the same as getting paid. People get paid to do tv shows people get paid to win events. People get "hooked up" to sponcer someone elses gear. Anyone on here can bash on anyones **** I dont give a ****. So if your going to bash someone and say something atleast say it right and not try to portray someone as geting paid cause if I get paid it means MONEY
#91
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
Re read your first quote dick bag. You said
"Oh.. excuse me.... except the people that they give free **** to (literally), and PAY to say their **** is good."
So basically that tells me that your saying they pay riders to say their **** is good AND give away free stuff. All I was saying is 905 doesnt put money in anyones pocket. And that is the statement you made, There is no problem with a company giving anyone a product to promote their ****. Wether its good or bad im not saying their **** was 100 % perfect. And getting free products is not the same as getting paid. People get paid to do tv shows people get paid to win events. People get "hooked up" to sponcer someone elses gear. Anyone on here can bash on anyones **** I dont give a ****. So if your going to bash someone and say something atleast say it right and not try to portray someone as geting paid cause if I get paid it means MONEY
"Oh.. excuse me.... except the people that they give free **** to (literally), and PAY to say their **** is good."
So basically that tells me that your saying they pay riders to say their **** is good AND give away free stuff. All I was saying is 905 doesnt put money in anyones pocket. And that is the statement you made, There is no problem with a company giving anyone a product to promote their ****. Wether its good or bad im not saying their **** was 100 % perfect. And getting free products is not the same as getting paid. People get paid to do tv shows people get paid to win events. People get "hooked up" to sponcer someone elses gear. Anyone on here can bash on anyones **** I dont give a ****. So if your going to bash someone and say something atleast say it right and not try to portray someone as geting paid cause if I get paid it means MONEY
Whatever, if I get ANY free part or parts for my bike I consider that compensation.... which is a fancy word for GETTING PAID.
So... if I got paid, I would do my "job" and promote the product... as I would be expected to do.
You don't get a sponsorship cause the boss is a nice guy and he likes you... you get it so they can use you as a marketing tool and SELL MORE PRODUCT.
I do not get paid from any company besides my own... I just promote the products that actually work, and work good. I do this solely to help other people out... so they don't make the same mistakes I did.
Talk all the nonsense you want... 905 still puts out **** for cages... and that's the bottom line. My pics and other peoples pics speak for themselves.
Who really gives a **** about technicalities... ie; who gets paid and/or free ****?! Seriously... wtf are you arguing about?
Wild guess here... you work for 905 huh?? Or maybe it's run by your buddies?
I did my job on this thread... now feel free to continue your pointless banter. Or better yet... go ride your quad
#92
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
So your telling me that sponsors don't give their riders $$ for travel, gas, food and things of that nature? Hmm?
Whatever, if I get ANY free part or parts for my bike I consider that compensation.... which is a fancy word for GETTING PAID.
So... if I got paid, I would do my "job" and promote the product... as I would be expected to do.
You don't get a sponsorship cause the boss is a nice guy and he likes you... you get it so they can use you as a marketing tool and SELL MORE PRODUCT.
I do not get paid from any company besides my own... I just promote the products that actually work, and work good. I do this solely to help other people out... so they don't make the same mistakes I did.
Talk all the nonsense you want... 905 still puts out **** for cages... and that's the bottom line. My pics and other peoples pics speak for themselves.
Who really gives a **** about technicalities... ie; who gets paid and/or free ****?! Seriously... wtf are you arguing about?
Wild guess here... you work for 905 huh?? Or maybe it's run by your buddies?
I did my job on this thread... now feel free to continue your pointless banter. Or better yet... go ride your quad
Whatever, if I get ANY free part or parts for my bike I consider that compensation.... which is a fancy word for GETTING PAID.
So... if I got paid, I would do my "job" and promote the product... as I would be expected to do.
You don't get a sponsorship cause the boss is a nice guy and he likes you... you get it so they can use you as a marketing tool and SELL MORE PRODUCT.
I do not get paid from any company besides my own... I just promote the products that actually work, and work good. I do this solely to help other people out... so they don't make the same mistakes I did.
Talk all the nonsense you want... 905 still puts out **** for cages... and that's the bottom line. My pics and other peoples pics speak for themselves.
Who really gives a **** about technicalities... ie; who gets paid and/or free ****?! Seriously... wtf are you arguing about?
Wild guess here... you work for 905 huh?? Or maybe it's run by your buddies?
I did my job on this thread... now feel free to continue your pointless banter. Or better yet... go ride your quad
ive always liked their upper stays. wasnt a big fan of their cages due to them rolling over to the tank/clip-ons. so im curious to see their new design. i never had a problem with welds breaking. but its been 3 or 4 years since i last used one of their cages. 12 bars were good. but how do you **** those up? haha
905 wants to use my bike to make their new design upper stay and subcage. so once its done, ill post pics and give my HONEST opinion on it just as i did with the new FTI handbrake
#93
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
My point was that you said the pay people, and give away their ****. Yeah I work with them, no I do not work for them. They dont pay me cash for anything, He will be using my bike tomorrow to design his rear pegs, I will post up pictures of that and give my review when I get them done also. Buy I can tell you this if I sat here and made false allegations about your friends and their companys and said **** that wasnt true "i.e. putting money in peoples pockets" you would point me in the right direction just as I did with you. My comment about people winning events and getting on tv shows are the ones that GET MONEY.
So you go and talk **** about someone fine. But atleast come correct and dont make **** up that you dont know about. And when your corrected dont be a punk and make cheesy comments about someone riding a quad lol.
So you go and talk **** about someone fine. But atleast come correct and dont make **** up that you dont know about. And when your corrected dont be a punk and make cheesy comments about someone riding a quad lol.
#94
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
Myself and or SIC Nate is heading dn to 905 here in the next few weeks to help design a new cage. We had sum influence on the design of MXD's 3point cages, and what we're bringing to 905 is going to be completely different than anything they have made before.
#95
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
spoken like a true douche!
u may want to watch out for who your talking **** to on the internet!
#96
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
This thread really was not about their cages, but obviously that's where it has gone. I think that all of their other products are good. I do agree that the cages are not up to par with the competition. I was around Aaron before Racing905 was a cage company.
Kavi Cedrick saw that a 12 o'clock scrape was possible in 2002 and began to attempt them. Pretty much every time he would try once or twice and break the engine case cover. He knew that Aaron built off road trucks, etc and asked if he could make something to protect the case cover from breaking when he crashed...Racing905 was born.
In the beginning all cages were not up to par for what we put them through, but something was better than nothing. Unfortunately, 905 did not update or improve their stuff for many years. Now they are trying. The current stuff is welded properly, made from thicker wall material, has gussets at all previous failure points, comes powdercoated, comes with sliders that help to keep the bike from rolling up.
In the next few months, all their cages are going to be redesigned to a less bulky profile with smaller diameter and even thicker wall tubing.
I cannot make up excuses for anyone's bad experience, nor can they I suppose, but I just wanted to let the community know of the changes.
I believe that Racing905 has supported this sport and it's riders more than any other company so far. They have the most products for the most bike models. They attend and sponsor many events.
I left my Racing905 sponsorship that started in the garage days because of the same reasons that are being brought up in this thread. I have now left another sponsorship to return to 905 after talking with Aaron and seeing the changes and future plans. Maybe my opinion doesn't count because I am a rider that they support, but I did not have to choose them as I had a high quality protective product sponsorship already.
All I know is Aaron busted his butt and stayed at his shop untill midnight every night for over a week leading up to XDL to complete all the parts for my bike, which included new designs for the upper stay and subcage with subframe supports. That kind of support and dedication is hard to find.
Kavi Cedrick saw that a 12 o'clock scrape was possible in 2002 and began to attempt them. Pretty much every time he would try once or twice and break the engine case cover. He knew that Aaron built off road trucks, etc and asked if he could make something to protect the case cover from breaking when he crashed...Racing905 was born.
In the beginning all cages were not up to par for what we put them through, but something was better than nothing. Unfortunately, 905 did not update or improve their stuff for many years. Now they are trying. The current stuff is welded properly, made from thicker wall material, has gussets at all previous failure points, comes powdercoated, comes with sliders that help to keep the bike from rolling up.
In the next few months, all their cages are going to be redesigned to a less bulky profile with smaller diameter and even thicker wall tubing.
I cannot make up excuses for anyone's bad experience, nor can they I suppose, but I just wanted to let the community know of the changes.
I believe that Racing905 has supported this sport and it's riders more than any other company so far. They have the most products for the most bike models. They attend and sponsor many events.
I left my Racing905 sponsorship that started in the garage days because of the same reasons that are being brought up in this thread. I have now left another sponsorship to return to 905 after talking with Aaron and seeing the changes and future plans. Maybe my opinion doesn't count because I am a rider that they support, but I did not have to choose them as I had a high quality protective product sponsorship already.
All I know is Aaron busted his butt and stayed at his shop untill midnight every night for over a week leading up to XDL to complete all the parts for my bike, which included new designs for the upper stay and subcage with subframe supports. That kind of support and dedication is hard to find.
#97
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
You can tell us 905 has changed till your blue in the face! Fact is they have already messed up their share of bikes and lost their good name.
You say they support the sport with the most models available , Well ill crap in a bag and make one for each bike and I will have even more models available than 905 with same quality! You know Aaron could have fixed this off in the beginning with a little customer support and backing his own product! I just would never do business with a company that makes products that cant even hold up to their one and only purpose.
I will share my pics and experiences with everyone always and continue to steer others away from 905. At least buy from a company that stands behind their design and not brush them off after you get their money.
I could just 905 All DAY. SORRY YOUR PRODUCT IS
You say they support the sport with the most models available , Well ill crap in a bag and make one for each bike and I will have even more models available than 905 with same quality! You know Aaron could have fixed this off in the beginning with a little customer support and backing his own product! I just would never do business with a company that makes products that cant even hold up to their one and only purpose.
I will share my pics and experiences with everyone always and continue to steer others away from 905. At least buy from a company that stands behind their design and not brush them off after you get their money.
I could just 905 All DAY. SORRY YOUR PRODUCT IS
#98
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
Ya but of course people are gonna compair them to their other products
and even if their cages were the bomb, just looking at the subcage, it looks janky with the flat plate going across..
If it had a steel bar going across, I think that design looks DOPE..
I just think they need a bar going across, and that would be just as good, if not stronger then all the others
but with that flat plate, I'd rather just make my own, or buy a OMR
and even if their cages were the bomb, just looking at the subcage, it looks janky with the flat plate going across..
If it had a steel bar going across, I think that design looks DOPE..
I just think they need a bar going across, and that would be just as good, if not stronger then all the others
but with that flat plate, I'd rather just make my own, or buy a OMR
#99
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
You can tell us 905 has changed till your blue in the face! Fact is they have already messed up their share of bikes and lost their good name.
You say they support the sport with the most models available , Well ill crap in a bag and make one for each bike and I will have even more models available than 905 with same quality! You know Aaron could have fixed this off in the beginning with a little customer support and backing his own product! I just would never do business with a company that makes products that cant even hold up to their one and only purpose.
I will share my pics and experiences with everyone always and continue to steer others away from 905. At least buy from a company that stands behind their design and not brush them off after you get their money.
I could just 905 All DAY. SORRY YOUR PRODUCT IS
You say they support the sport with the most models available , Well ill crap in a bag and make one for each bike and I will have even more models available than 905 with same quality! You know Aaron could have fixed this off in the beginning with a little customer support and backing his own product! I just would never do business with a company that makes products that cant even hold up to their one and only purpose.
I will share my pics and experiences with everyone always and continue to steer others away from 905. At least buy from a company that stands behind their design and not brush them off after you get their money.
I could just 905 All DAY. SORRY YOUR PRODUCT IS
How about get a new avatar that doesn't have a pic of you doing a power wheelie with the 905 cage on it you hate so much.
#100
Re: *New* Racing905 Subcages
Ya but of course people are gonna compair them to their other products
and even if their cages were the bomb, just looking at the subcage, it looks janky with the flat plate going across..
If it had a steel bar going across, I think that design looks DOPE..
I just think they need a bar going across, and that would be just as good, if not stronger then all the others
but with that flat plate, I'd rather just make my own, or buy a OMR
and even if their cages were the bomb, just looking at the subcage, it looks janky with the flat plate going across..
If it had a steel bar going across, I think that design looks DOPE..
I just think they need a bar going across, and that would be just as good, if not stronger then all the others
but with that flat plate, I'd rather just make my own, or buy a OMR