stock05

the only people that catch slack are those who cant wheelie using the rear brake and think that a handbrake is going to be easier to operate and magically give them skills overnight. when i got my first handbrake i didnt know how to use it either, but i did know how to use a rear brake and ride idle staggered. owning one comes with progression.

Suicidl

this is great. there will be alot of cheap scratched up brembo's and other masters to buy up real cheap. so hurry up and buy these so i can buy up all these cheap masters :YEAH

SIC J

do you guys honestly think one day Bill woke up and designed the new handbrake and put them out for sale without testing them or having other people test it first? SERIOUSLY

i breifly talked to Teach about it and my main concern was, "does it feel like a handbrake or clutch". he told me "it just uses the cable to pull the arm that pumps the fluid" and feels just like a normal handbrake.

Teach has no reason to lie. and he isnt a person who is goin to get sponsered by a company "just to get free ****".

im sold on it after talkin to Teach so ill be ordering now probably next week.

punishmentcycle

i just set one of these up on a friend's 636 today..i couldn't try it out for two reasons...one he never got the cable with the kit,and two that white anti-riding **** was coming down. my boy called bill and he said he would rush the cable out.next decent day and i'll put a session on it.....bled fine,i just want to see how the cable feels with the ASV lever he bought...looks and feels normal on the foot side. i have pics but the site wont let me upload for some reason

kj

You people are missing the point completely....

If Teach said "hey let's go jump off the SF bridge... it's the best thing ever" ....would you do it?

I mean... he's got no reason to lie, right? ****... if he's doin it then it's got to be good no? **** it, I'M SOLD! LET'S GO!!

The point is I don't base my setup on what other people tell me to buy (especially sponsored riders who GET PAID to promote their companies product). Whether or not I think they're honest people or not.

This whole thread is getting waaaaaaaaay off topic....


Let's just hear some god damn reviews from a bunch of different people who don't have any interest in the product or don't have their lips attatched to anybody elses ***'s.

TEACH C6

we get your point. you're missing mine and everyone elses. my reputation is pretty darn credible in this sport and it got that way because i dont lie and i have some integrity. so ya, people do trust my opinion and more importantly, they trust that I will give them an honest opinion. for reference, i've been sponsored by FI and 905 for some time now and have no problem telling you the pros and cons to both of those products, just like i have no problem telling people the positives and negatives with this one.

that being said, i tried it out today. first order of business was to relocate the master lower on the forks and reroute my lines. i had to bleed the brake real quick again and couldnt get the mush out of it, but after pumping it up, poppping a couple of wheelies...all it took was two cracks of the bleeder valve on the system and it was fine the rest of the day.

second thing i noticed was that i would like an ezpull/msr lever to use for the hb...the one bill sent is fine, but i think an ez pull on the hb line and one on the clutch will be super sweet.

i did a couple ss coasters and some ss circles, tight and wide. i liked the feel and response...had way better strength than my last brembo/ft setup on the RR but i didnt take care of that setup very well. it was sensitive yet didn't overbite. i can't really say anything mroe than that right now because the stock clutch lever is killing me and the gas/clutch/hb combo is not quite second nature on the bmw yet.

so overall, exactly what i expected and hoped for...and i can still go with more 'power' on the hb with the next adjustment, as well as use an ez pull. the footbrake was great all day with no problems whatsoever. i did not move directly from the foot brake to the hb while ina wheelie but it was fine on the ground.

you can check out some pics thanks to greg at www.beadyeyeproductions.com on www.flickr.com ...just look for beadyeyeproductions

TEACH C6

here's a direct link to the flickr pics...i'll try to post some here

fuzz600

did you already break that bmw ???

Darius

Teach you forget how to use the computer?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/beadyeye

RHill

this may be a completely drunk off my *** question but did anyone notice teach's banjo bolts are in different locations than what are in the sites pictures??? I hope his is a redesign because it looks better....but like I said in the other thread....without that top bleader port, this would be a bitch to bleed.

If you dont know wtf i'm talking about look at the lines that run to the master....on teach's there are 2 from the side and a bleeder above both....the pic on the website has one from the side and one on the top with no bleeder visible.

I really hope the production version is like teach's.....if not, i'm not buying

ps......i dont know how i got here, but luckly i'm drunk enough to have made it...

TEACH C6

they all have the bleeder valve...two cracks after the initial bleed and a quick wheelie session to push the remaining air to the system, which is at the highest point.

and yes, D...I just finished an african safari...you missed it and the ride will reopen tommorrow! club moto i think

Guru

you cracked the swing arm already????

TEACH C6

ya, took too much out to accomodate a bigger sprocket...new one will be done tuesday. less taken out, will be fine. ride it like you stole it son!

Guru

remember man... its not a honda

Kevmo7

This handbrake is so confusing, so you dont need a resevior off the top? then what is the 2nd line needed for?

Dont hate, im not very good with this sort of stuff, im just trying to learn how it all works before i buy one...

old man roger

the fluid starts at the resivior and goes to the stock foot brake master then it goes trough the line to the new full throttle master and from there it goes through the other line to the rear caliper..

imafrogg420

some one dres a pritty picture explaining it out of paint shop that was hilarious haha

tonyraita

Hey Teach,nice pics!Welcome to the club.

kj

Well... now that ya mention that... get ready for long story.

You obviously DO NOT get my point, and at the same time you bring up another very good point that I haven't even mentioned yet.

I've met you a couple times in person... i know you remember me, I'm the guy that had the same exact knee injury's/surgeries as you... i met you at argo's and again at xdl VA for a bit of convo each time.


1st off... let's clear the air... I never accussed you of "lying", so your opinion (to me IMHO) is indeed credible, and I have never attacked your integrity.... EVER.

Having said that... I have much respect for you, and your riding abilities, BUT at the same time... not so much for your personal opinion on gear/setups for a couple of really good reasons......

NUMBER ONE: When I first got into stunt riding, you were one of the most well known, talented local guys in my area (northeast).

So... I had the utmost respect for pretty much anything that came out of your mouth regarding "the sport". (mistake )

When I 1st got into actual "stunting", you reccomended FI cages to the end (which I believe you still do ).... which I went with 100% and learned for myself that they sucked *** BIG TIME for a NON-pro rider such as myself.... as I went through 3 of them on my 954's in one year (keep in mind this is 2004), then went through 2 on my f4i's within 1 year... not to mention countless motor mount bolts and new controls for both bikes.... (and yes, i tightened mm bolts on the regular, I'm no newb to maintenance).

I just figured, yes I suck, and this is norm.... and new guy's crash ALOT, so I should expect to spend lots of $$ all the time on cages ect.


SO... after going out on my own and taking a chance on a new "unknown" company, sickinnovations... (which were JUST comming out at the time)... i realized that what works for the "pros" is VERY, VERY different than what works for ME, THE average stunt rider. As my ONE SI cage lasted me almost 2 full seasons of hard core abuse.

Not even to mention another disasterous experience w/ a 905 (reccomemnded by another well known Pro) around the same time as well.

I've wasted SOOOOO much of my hard earned (blood/sweat/tears) cash on JUNK stunt parts that were "highly reccommended" to me by yourself and other "pros" at the time..... I hate to even think about it.

THIS HAS LEFT A VERY DISTINCT, VERY BAD TASTE IN MY MOUTH, AND MY ***... that I cannot help but keep kicking around to this day.


So for me... this all boils down to another pumped up, pimped out stunt part that "the top names" will defend till the end.... even when they haven't even actually physically tried it out yet!!

Please read my post a couple times and try to think back to when you were a newb/nobody.....

I'm really not tryin to be a huge dick for no reason......... think about it.

stock05

what is this, battle of who can make the longest posts?