Sponsor Issues
01-20-2008, 09:57 AM
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Re: Sponsor Issues
I think that people are missing the point a bit realy, you are all looking at a big distinction between Riders and Spomsors when the fact is this SPORT in todays terms is miniscule!
The sponsors are usually riders with engineers-mechancic-bike shop background and have seen a market grow and not being the best riders have taken up creating products to to sell for the best riders...
ie its a small, very political personal scene which is starting to become a business.... Most of the retailers will tell you they do not make on stunting and most of the promoters will tell you the same... This is of course half true and half bullshit... I think:
As with FMX and Skateboarding this sport definitely will become a giant in just a few years (it is growing worldwide on a massive scale not just in the states!) The promoters and sponsors know this and are holding out for the real money... when the scales are tipped like in any other market the very large companies will jump on the wagon and undercut the original and small businesses (or simply buy them out)
The top riders sponsorships will be worth a living wage and then some-big payouts-appearence money etc..... Check out BMW's involvement in stunt riding aka Chris P and Teach etc Now they are a very big company with an enourmous budget for mainstream TV ads and marketing.... They realise that by having the most talented and extreme riders on their bikes then young people will look up to their brand hence changing their old man image... Why? Well not because they love stunting but because they want to sell bikes to young people, who would have thought that watching Teach 4 years ago?!!!!!
The bottom line, the very least a business can do for it's sponsored rider no matter How big or small they are or what they say, is to give their products for free, unless they do, it's not sponsorship....
The sponsors are usually riders with engineers-mechancic-bike shop background and have seen a market grow and not being the best riders have taken up creating products to to sell for the best riders...
ie its a small, very political personal scene which is starting to become a business.... Most of the retailers will tell you they do not make on stunting and most of the promoters will tell you the same... This is of course half true and half bullshit... I think:
As with FMX and Skateboarding this sport definitely will become a giant in just a few years (it is growing worldwide on a massive scale not just in the states!) The promoters and sponsors know this and are holding out for the real money... when the scales are tipped like in any other market the very large companies will jump on the wagon and undercut the original and small businesses (or simply buy them out)
The top riders sponsorships will be worth a living wage and then some-big payouts-appearence money etc..... Check out BMW's involvement in stunt riding aka Chris P and Teach etc Now they are a very big company with an enourmous budget for mainstream TV ads and marketing.... They realise that by having the most talented and extreme riders on their bikes then young people will look up to their brand hence changing their old man image... Why? Well not because they love stunting but because they want to sell bikes to young people, who would have thought that watching Teach 4 years ago?!!!!!
The bottom line, the very least a business can do for it's sponsored rider no matter How big or small they are or what they say, is to give their products for free, unless they do, it's not sponsorship....
For example. Tim Barnes at Free Style helped our team out. A lot.
I never got free **** unless it was smaller stuff. But he hooked me and team members up. Our team helped him get into local shops and referred he's product. The exposure our team offered matched the support we got from him. I thought the sponsorship was fair without getting free ****. And he did help with travel expenses from time to time.
01-20-2008, 10:41 AM
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Re: Sponsor Issues
I'd love to know what ******* fantacy world whichever squid lives in where sponsors pay for everything......get real people. I don't know why the hell people think that bitching and whining is gonna promote the sport and help it grow.
01-20-2008, 11:08 AM
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who's your sponsors??? I don't see any stickers, signature, etc... on your profile.
If I was a sponsor I would want my riders to have an open door policy when it comes to input and issues and not bash them on public forums. I would want a signature or something in your profile to help promote the products.
I would want exposure which means comps, dvds, magazines, etc....
Being a post ***** on SL isn't deemed as "Exposure"
People that post threads like these will find it difficult to get another sponsor.
Just my 2 cents.....Holla
If I was a sponsor I would want my riders to have an open door policy when it comes to input and issues and not bash them on public forums. I would want a signature or something in your profile to help promote the products.
I would want exposure which means comps, dvds, magazines, etc....
Being a post ***** on SL isn't deemed as "Exposure"
People that post threads like these will find it difficult to get another sponsor.
Just my 2 cents.....Holla
01-20-2008, 11:59 AM
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who's your sponsors??? I don't see any stickers, signature, etc... on your profile.
If I was a sponsor I would want my riders to have an open door policy when it comes to input and issues and not bash them on public forums. I would want a signature or something in your profile to help promote the products.
I would want exposure which means comps, dvds, magazines, etc....
Being a post ***** on SL isn't deemed as "Exposure"
People that post threads like these will find it difficult to get another sponsor.
Just my 2 cents.....Holla
If I was a sponsor I would want my riders to have an open door policy when it comes to input and issues and not bash them on public forums. I would want a signature or something in your profile to help promote the products.
I would want exposure which means comps, dvds, magazines, etc....
Being a post ***** on SL isn't deemed as "Exposure"
People that post threads like these will find it difficult to get another sponsor.
Just my 2 cents.....Holla
fo sure
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01-20-2008, 01:35 PM
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Re: Sponsor Issues
who's your sponsors??? I don't see any stickers, signature, etc... on your profile.
If I was a sponsor I would want my riders to have an open door policy when it comes to input and issues and not bash them on public forums. I would want a signature or something in your profile to help promote the products.
I would want exposure which means comps, dvds, magazines, etc....
Being a post ***** on SL isn't deemed as "Exposure"
People that post threads like these will find it difficult to get another sponsor.
Just my 2 cents.....Holla
If I was a sponsor I would want my riders to have an open door policy when it comes to input and issues and not bash them on public forums. I would want a signature or something in your profile to help promote the products.
I would want exposure which means comps, dvds, magazines, etc....
Being a post ***** on SL isn't deemed as "Exposure"
People that post threads like these will find it difficult to get another sponsor.
Just my 2 cents.....Holla
you 2 can not be ******* serious
01-20-2008, 01:42 PM
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Re: Sponsor Issues
We give out free Craft Helmets to many riders we feel need the support and are a positive to the sport. I do not really think of it as Sponsoring. I think of it as good exposure for us, SMF and Craft.
True Sponsoring implies paying the rider to use and endorse the product.
True Sponsoring implies paying the rider to use and endorse the product.
01-20-2008, 01:47 PM
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This thread is dead
either "GET OFF THE FENCE" and speak out and name your sponsor or quit your bitching and switch to another comapany.
This is the very reason there is so much bullshit and drama on SL.
Unless your trying to get this up to 13 pages
either "GET OFF THE FENCE" and speak out and name your sponsor or quit your bitching and switch to another comapany.
This is the very reason there is so much bullshit and drama on SL.
Unless your trying to get this up to 13 pages
01-20-2008, 01:48 PM
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01-20-2008, 02:25 PM
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01-20-2008, 02:48 PM
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01-20-2008, 02:56 PM
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Re: Sponsor Issues
no, read my response, thats owned
01-20-2008, 03:04 PM
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Not saying he doesn't put into the sport. Much respect for he's riding.
However does that sell said sponsors merchandise?
01-20-2008, 03:08 PM
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Same for when they were just rocking MXD, I had that on my bike....So I know I dont count, I'm just a little ant in this whole stunt "world" but thats just my
01-20-2008, 03:11 PM
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Not saying he doesn't put into the sport. Much respect for he's riding.
However does that sell said sponsors merchandise?
Prospective sponsors don't owe the rider's a thing. You as a rider are asking permission to get free ****. The way I see it you as rider's owe it to the sponsors to show what you can do for them.
Hell for all I know he has done more then he's part. I am just stating in general to many riders show up with palms up expecting to "GET".
01-20-2008, 03:13 PM
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Well in my opinion yes, at least for me it works. After seeing all the craze about o-town, and seeing ***** and garys style of riding in the vids, I went out and bought nothing but S.I. products because I knew they had to be diesel to take the abuse. Also the only shop I order from is HAI, because of stuntshine state.
Same for when they were just rocking MXD, I had that on my bike....So I know I dont count, I'm just a little ant in this whole stunt "world" but thats just my
Same for when they were just rocking MXD, I had that on my bike....So I know I dont count, I'm just a little ant in this whole stunt "world" but thats just my
yeah you are just an ant cause it takes a nobody to try to put some elses skills down to attempt to make themselves feel better. I may not agree with ***** on this issue but I would never stoop so low as to put down his skills....Hell he even tried to hook me up with a set of throttle bodies. But anyways Beto I didn't see your *** at stuntwars practicing and ridding all week and on top of that you have never even seen me ride so who the **** are you to rag on my skills you ******* squid
01-20-2008, 03:16 PM
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yeah you are just an ant cause it takes a nobody to try to put some elses skills down to attempt to make themselves feel better. I may not agree with ***** on this issue but I would never stoop so low as to put down his skills....Hell he even tried to hook me up with a set of throttle bodies. But anyways Beto I didn't see your *** at stuntwars practicing and ridding all week and on top of that you have never even seen me ride so who the **** are you to rag on my skills you ******* squid
I did see you ride
Just hearing you talk whenever you came down to B-ham I could tell whats up Mr. "IlearnedBPsoNowIcanTeachYou", you know how else I know, when you took your gixxer up and down the lot flying by, and then you stopped and asked us how high your tire was
...but anyways, this isnt about you or me, I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents and have some fun while I did it Last edited by Beto; 01-20-2008 at 03:22 PM. Reason: forgot
