Full Throttle Bill Does It Again! New Hand Brake Era.
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Re: Full Throttle Bill Does It Again! New Hand Brake Era.
i said im really close to bp and i have reached it a couple times and coasted for a couple seconds. i never said i have it on lock ....why r all of u hating on me wtf...wait till summer ill show u what i can do! i flipped two times cuz ive been trying to ride bp ....not cuz i suk because im pushing myself to the limits because i wana get sik like u guys and bust out circles at red lights! lol ...and cuz its wicked fun!
#263
Re: Full Throttle Bill Does It Again! New Hand Brake Era.
not learning how to stunt... so can we please get back to the ******* TOPIC and off of the newb drama.
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#266
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he said he was gonna increase the price. Teach even mentioned it in his review thread about it. good thing i bought it before he did. haha
but one question though, with the $295 price, did it come with the ASV lever though? or did he raise the price then start including it with the kit? that lever alone is $115.
but one question though, with the $295 price, did it come with the ASV lever though? or did he raise the price then start including it with the kit? that lever alone is $115.
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Re: Full Throttle Bill Does It Again! New Hand Brake Era.
he said he was gonna increase the price. Teach even mentioned it in his review thread about it. good thing i bought it before he did. haha
but one question though, with the $295 price, did it come with the ASV lever though? or did he raise the price then start including it with the kit? that lever alone is $115.
but one question though, with the $295 price, did it come with the ASV lever though? or did he raise the price then start including it with the kit? that lever alone is $115.
#268
Re: Full Throttle Bill Does It Again! New Hand Brake Era.
I talked to Bill for a bit today and the price increase is due to the new ASV f3 ($115) lever that's included in the deal... instead of the motion pro one that was w/ the original.
For what he's doing... at that price..... it really is a steal.
And, I'm really excited now after a lengthy discussion w/ him...
Bill turns out some sick creations... and it's all for this "sport" of ours... so weather or not I happen to like this better or the dually setup I'm using..... I feel as though it's money well spent regardless of result. :YEAH
I've gotta give HUGE props to Bill... he's one of the very few "pioneers" of the sport....
As I said... I CAN'T WAIT to try this new setup!! STAY TUNED :YEAH
For what he's doing... at that price..... it really is a steal.
And, I'm really excited now after a lengthy discussion w/ him...
Bill turns out some sick creations... and it's all for this "sport" of ours... so weather or not I happen to like this better or the dually setup I'm using..... I feel as though it's money well spent regardless of result. :YEAH
I've gotta give HUGE props to Bill... he's one of the very few "pioneers" of the sport....
As I said... I CAN'T WAIT to try this new setup!! STAY TUNED :YEAH
#269
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Don't worry... it's not just you that will be getting a better deal
I just paypal'd Bill the extra $$ for the upgraded lever today.... so nobody else is getting anything for free here.
Jesus... you gotta think how much $$ goes into manufacturing process, materials, etc... not to mention countless hours of personal customer service (which is invaluable).
All the providers of stunt parts in our industry are not making millions... Bill is NOT making a killing... nor is Ian at SI, nor is Jorge (HoHey) HHD.
It's just like any other small business... profit margins are thin after all is said and done.
Think about it for a bit.....
I just paypal'd Bill the extra $$ for the upgraded lever today.... so nobody else is getting anything for free here.
Jesus... you gotta think how much $$ goes into manufacturing process, materials, etc... not to mention countless hours of personal customer service (which is invaluable).
All the providers of stunt parts in our industry are not making millions... Bill is NOT making a killing... nor is Ian at SI, nor is Jorge (HoHey) HHD.
It's just like any other small business... profit margins are thin after all is said and done.
Think about it for a bit.....
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Re: Full Throttle Bill Does It Again! New Hand Brake Era.
Don't worry... it's not just you that will be getting a better deal
I just paypal'd Bill the extra $$ for the upgraded lever today.... so nobody else is getting anything for free here.
Jesus... you gotta think how much $$ goes into manufacturing process, materials, etc... not to mention countless hours of personal customer service (which is invaluable).
All the providers of stunt parts in our industry are not making millions... Bill is NOT making a killing... nor is Ian at SI, nor is Jorge (HoHey) HHD.
It's just like any other small business... profit margins are thin after all is said and done.
Think about it for a bit.....
I just paypal'd Bill the extra $$ for the upgraded lever today.... so nobody else is getting anything for free here.
Jesus... you gotta think how much $$ goes into manufacturing process, materials, etc... not to mention countless hours of personal customer service (which is invaluable).
All the providers of stunt parts in our industry are not making millions... Bill is NOT making a killing... nor is Ian at SI, nor is Jorge (HoHey) HHD.
It's just like any other small business... profit margins are thin after all is said and done.
Think about it for a bit.....
#273
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Were you drinkin again, KJ? Everything you stated above is common sense(unless you're 12). I own a retail business, I understand these things. I have a couple ASV's.......that's why I said, "Still sucks(for me)." In my initial post about the price increase, I wasn't aware of the lever swap, I thought the price just got bumped. Bill should sell the kit w/ an option for the lever. I mean, honestly......who DOESN'T have an extra lever and perch laying around?
i could be wrong but i thinks its because he doesnt want people getting a sloppy clutch and confusing it with the top notch setup and thinking its a sloppy HB instead of their own shitty lever .... that was the reason bill upgraded levers to begin with. he said that there was some slop in the motion pro lever so he went to the asv to fix it
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i could be wrong but i thinks its because he doesnt want people getting a sloppy clutch and confusing it with the top notch setup and thinking its a sloppy HB instead of their own shitty lever .... that was the reason bill upgraded levers to begin with. he said that there was some slop in the motion pro lever so he went to the asv to fix it
because he wants everyone to have the "top of the line" hb and all components....
wow... there's actually some other smart people on here too... :
#276
#277
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Don't talk to me about retail... you have no idea what goes into running a manufacturing/contractor/service based small business...
Retail is COMPLETELY different. You buy ****, mark it up then sell it... thats all.
I've been there, done that... years ago.
Retail is COMPLETELY different. You buy ****, mark it up then sell it... thats all.
I've been there, done that... years ago.
#278
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Im not hating on my man BIll he's the man...but dam, there aint **** like a ******* 16x18 brembo and hohey bracket...WOW!..you sneeze on that bitch and it locks up...U can bleed that **** in 5 min. with your eyes closed.... i love it..
I had the billet master on my 954 and it was great too....I think you guys really just put to much effort in wanting the best ****, yada yada...it dont make yo a better rider man...
I know guys with Gp tech fittings, ****** 954 master cylinder as the hand brake master killing over the screen circles and all that........Im gonna have to say its the rider man...and your skills.. If you need the best hand brake on the market or its that serious(bleeding) etc.., I guess your skills are not were they should be...:YEAH ,:YEAH and if you cant bleed a ****** brake line....dont work on your own bike .....lol...foreal...you gonna get hurt...
BILL/ HOHEY ' yall should hook up and just make some crazy **** !!! that every stunter will be ******* killin to get..and you guys know you can do it!
Good luck to everyone else....HOLLA!...
I had the billet master on my 954 and it was great too....I think you guys really just put to much effort in wanting the best ****, yada yada...it dont make yo a better rider man...
I know guys with Gp tech fittings, ****** 954 master cylinder as the hand brake master killing over the screen circles and all that........Im gonna have to say its the rider man...and your skills.. If you need the best hand brake on the market or its that serious(bleeding) etc.., I guess your skills are not were they should be...:YEAH ,:YEAH and if you cant bleed a ****** brake line....dont work on your own bike .....lol...foreal...you gonna get hurt...
BILL/ HOHEY ' yall should hook up and just make some crazy **** !!! that every stunter will be ******* killin to get..and you guys know you can do it!
Good luck to everyone else....HOLLA!...
#279
Re: Full Throttle Bill Does It Again! New Hand Brake Era.
I sucked *** (and still do) until I got a good "cheater" handbrake setup (ho hey dually w/ brembo 16/18)...
then my skills moved up a level....
It's regular guys like me who benifit the most from things like this... not the guys killin it (like some of my boys) *Dom* w/ a full fairing bike, stock clip ons, and a shitty master/adapter setup that's hard as a rock w/ no feedback/feel at all.
Some guy's can kill it w/ the shittiest of **** setups... while others actually NEED more power or feel or both.
If your that good then be glad you don't have to worry about stupid **** like this....
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Hey, **** nut........stop runnin your mouth to people you don't know and know nothing about. I make EVERYTHING I sell. I know exactly what goes on in this type of business.....been doing it for 9 years.....STFU.