Um yea- i dont know why T isnt posting on this thread. he's prolly sittin in his chair at the dealership laughing his *** off.. but he himself are one of a few DAMN experienecd well known stunters that put there time and effort Helping him. and Me. If you watch the end of the the first video there is a clip of the master running over my hat

 

I know what you mean, I'm a slow learner most of the time

But it's all good if you're having fun

 

Well if you drop a brake levar on it, 12 bar and crash cage and go around driving 145 mph trying to drop the clutch.. id have to label you a squid..

but if you took your time. worked at your own pace. you would be just another guy trying to learn to kill it..

Iv never ridden above my ability- and have taken things in moderation. if i was labeled a squid id laugh.. but I dont try to do anything above my riding skill.

 

A squid would be like Britney Spears, and a beginner would be like her little sister....

 

LOL heres my good uber definition of a squid.. Do yall aggree or disagree?

there was a picture of a dude.. on a shiny mint R1- He was on the highway with his hat backwards. his nice custom painted helment on the helment holder.. and he was talking on his cellphone with his left hand.. monitoring throttle with his right hand.. dont got the picture now to post it.

but thats a ****** squid !

 

thats the main thing, not goin over your head.....he shoulda been ridn whoolies at a fastrer pace befor he go and pop the clutch......i can clutch my lil bike up without using the hb but i wont do that **** on the big bike til i get power whoolies....then i will clutch it after a lil bit and be

 

You're a squid
seriously though I think you missed the whole point of the thread, cause if you were riding/stunting around all the non stunting sportbike riders that think a big sprocket = easy wheelies when they can't even do one in stock first gear, then you should understand. Anybody can learn to ride a wheelie. But no one jumps on a bike and insteantly does it.
And I've found that most pro/expert stunters are always helpful if the person learning is not a know it all jerk.

Nothing personal towards you

 

thats called trying to look cool.... ......he shoulda been rockin some O's while on the phone.....that **** would be pimpn fa sho

 

Well the best advice i ever got.. from a smart dude was

Pop the clutch.. hit the brake.. Pop the clutch.. Hit the brake.. Pop the clutch.. Hit the brake.. Pop the clutch.. hit the brake.. Pop the clutch.. Hit the brake.. Pop the clutch.. Hit the brake.. Pop the clutch.. hit the brake.. Pop the clutch.. Hit the brake.. Pop the clutch.. Hit the brake.. Pop the clutch.. hit the brake.. Pop the clutch.. Hit the brake.. Pop the clutch.. Hit the brake..
Occasionaly I try to bring it up higher.. thinking i got it down.. then i bring it to far.. loop it.. or hit the brake and mouse trap..

but I got the brake part down.. jus not hitting it the correct levarage etc to balance it.. iv gotten a cpl nice coasters on bp.. a few.. and then i got to tell myself to SLOW THE **** DOWN!!!!!! (before i kill myself)

 

He was doing right by learning to clutch, but wrong by not covering the brake

Clutching wheelies to learn is a lot safer than power wheelies to learn

 

towards me or someone else.... did you not just read my last post.....i said power whoolies are the ones to start with......a dude just dont go out and rock slow whoolies

 

I agree you don't just rock slow wheelies

but power one are not the way to start
I started with clutching up slow wheelies and had never even done one before. And several of the guys around here started out the way.

Someone who can already do power wheelies will have an easier time learning slow stuff, but that doesn't make it safer to learn by starting with power instead of clutch

 

ooh ok that changes things

IF someone wont listen to someone doing no handers, then they dont have what it takes to do stunts



Nuts seeing someone clutch straight to the bar when they dont know where the brake is

 

everyone learns backwards tho. i learned to pop it up power style and back then i was freaked out about the clutch up.. then i realized if u only give it a lil gas it cant go that high. aposed to chasing a underpowered power wheelie with more power will only cause you to loop if you dont get there on the first pull

;-p

 

that was denis in the second video.. they kill it.. those clips dont give justice to what those kats can do.. honestly they prolly mentally hate me for "posting bad footage" of them

 

Im confused on that whole subject...

Power wheelies are good I guess, learning to clutch it up and get the feel for the brake... good practise...

BUT if the person (im just speaking in general) already has rear brake down on lock from expirience on a different bike... then I think jumping to clutch up slow wheelies is fine................

Im not talking about jumping on the bike and trying to learn BP right away..... but just learning to clutch it up and getting used to the rear brake........even if you're bringing it up then hitting the brake right away to bring it down and you repeat this serveral times until you get completely comfortable with the rear brake.....

You've already got the concept on lock, you just have to practise enough times to get the skilllls

 

Being able to see the difference in power vs. clutch as you can (in my opinion) is a big part of what seperates you from a squid.

To a squid your statement makes no sense and a clutch is scary.

 

i was talkin about someone just starting out......most peeps who just start out dont have the HB down at all but your right also

 

Once I was Lost. But Now- Am found.

thats just what i used to think.. but now i fully support clutch ups and wont bring the front up any other way !

 

Power wheelies are bad .

learn to clutch and use the brake. it is like you said, all about the practise.

being able to use the brake on the 50 will definitly help, although I went the other way. I learned brake control on my F4i and just lately got a 50 so using brake on it was cake :YEAH