05/06 636 stunt stays, need some input from riders.
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Re: 05/06 636 stunt stays, need some input from riders.
sup johny.. im def takin one. u still want that front wheel right? i was curious if you could do me a favor and measure how tall ur windscreen is gonna be after u cut it down because i already have 2 uppers that are cut down and im just curious if its gonna be short. the 05/06 uppers dont look to good cut down.. thats what sucks about it..lol but either way im gonna take one
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Re: 05/06 636 stunt stays, need some input from riders.
sup johny.. im def takin one. u still want that front wheel right? i was curious if you could do me a favor and measure how tall ur windscreen is gonna be after u cut it down because i already have 2 uppers that are cut down and im just curious if its gonna be short. the 05/06 uppers dont look to good cut down.. thats what sucks about it..lol but either way im gonna take one
It might not "look too good" cut down, but Im lookin at this full upper and Im thinkin "holy **** this ************ is big"... Its a big **** as far as uppers go, very wide up top its got like 4" of plastic on both sides of the windscreen...Its differnt thats for sure
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Actually, looking at Rayburn's 07' I thought his came out nice, so cut mine the same and looks pretty good.
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Re: 05/06 636 stunt stays, need some input from riders.
johnny p
i just cut my upper tonight on my 05/06 636. for those of you wanting to run clipons and turn them out. for maximum range of turning the handle bars without hitting the clutch or front brake / throttle cables, this is how much i had to cut off. you have to cut more off the 05/06 then you do on the 03/04.
i say make em shorter! i had to cut just above the 2nd windscreen bolt.
my set up is with Vortex 7 degree clipons (flipped), moose easy pull, brembo radial mount hand brake, and stock front radial brake with Vortex shorty lever!
i just cut my upper tonight on my 05/06 636. for those of you wanting to run clipons and turn them out. for maximum range of turning the handle bars without hitting the clutch or front brake / throttle cables, this is how much i had to cut off. you have to cut more off the 05/06 then you do on the 03/04.
i say make em shorter! i had to cut just above the 2nd windscreen bolt.
my set up is with Vortex 7 degree clipons (flipped), moose easy pull, brembo radial mount hand brake, and stock front radial brake with Vortex shorty lever!
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Thanks guys the pics help alot! I was mostly worried that people werent going to want to cut their uppers that short. I havent seen one of these 05+ 636's setup with FF and turned out clipons yet, so I had no idea how much people were cutting them down...
Right now with what I have planned for the standard issue looks like it will be bang on with this one...I measured 2-1/2" up from the 2nd windscreen bolts, looks like this one is exactly where Im puttin the cross bar for the standard ones...
Not to worry Dan and anyone else that has already cut their upper a little shorter, just let me know beforehand and I will make yours shorter. And try my best to match the cross bar with your already cut upper.....Id did that for Drastic Dan and pretty much hit it dead on just from pics.....
Hoping to get this replacement frame in a week or so, and then a week or 2 after that I should have pics of the first prototype...Then once I have the base unit designed I'll start makin a list of people interested, and you guys can PM pics of your uppers....The base unit will always be the same, I just adjust the lenght of the tube section according to your guys requirements...
Also 1 more thing I wasnt planning on using the mirror mounts, I'll add them if I have to but right now I dont see them doing any good...The 05 headlight is very strong and that is where most of the support is going to come from, just like my 03/04's and F4i. My main focus is to support the headlight and the upper just floats on top of that.
Thanks guys Im on this like white on rice
Right now with what I have planned for the standard issue looks like it will be bang on with this one...I measured 2-1/2" up from the 2nd windscreen bolts, looks like this one is exactly where Im puttin the cross bar for the standard ones...
Not to worry Dan and anyone else that has already cut their upper a little shorter, just let me know beforehand and I will make yours shorter. And try my best to match the cross bar with your already cut upper.....Id did that for Drastic Dan and pretty much hit it dead on just from pics.....
Hoping to get this replacement frame in a week or so, and then a week or 2 after that I should have pics of the first prototype...Then once I have the base unit designed I'll start makin a list of people interested, and you guys can PM pics of your uppers....The base unit will always be the same, I just adjust the lenght of the tube section according to your guys requirements...
Also 1 more thing I wasnt planning on using the mirror mounts, I'll add them if I have to but right now I dont see them doing any good...The 05 headlight is very strong and that is where most of the support is going to come from, just like my 03/04's and F4i. My main focus is to support the headlight and the upper just floats on top of that.
Thanks guys Im on this like white on rice
Last edited by JohnnyP; 12-17-2007 at 11:56 PM.
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Re: 05/06 636 stunt stays, need some input from riders.
johnny p
i just cut my upper tonight on my 05/06 636. for those of you wanting to run clipons and turn them out. for maximum range of turning the handle bars without hitting the clutch or front brake / throttle cables, this is how much i had to cut off. you have to cut more off the 05/06 then you do on the 03/04.
i say make em shorter! i had to cut just above the 2nd windscreen bolt.
my set up is with Vortex 7 degree clipons (flipped), moose easy pull, brembo radial mount hand brake, and stock front radial brake with Vortex shorty lever!
i just cut my upper tonight on my 05/06 636. for those of you wanting to run clipons and turn them out. for maximum range of turning the handle bars without hitting the clutch or front brake / throttle cables, this is how much i had to cut off. you have to cut more off the 05/06 then you do on the 03/04.
i say make em shorter! i had to cut just above the 2nd windscreen bolt.
my set up is with Vortex 7 degree clipons (flipped), moose easy pull, brembo radial mount hand brake, and stock front radial brake with Vortex shorty lever!
On my 03/04 with aftermarket flipped clipons I couldnt go nearly as turned out, as I can with the stock clipons flipped. And I cant seem to bent the stock one either
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Re: 05/06 636 stunt stays, need some input from riders.
I just picked up a 05 636 this week and I am jumping on this list. I already have a spare upper thats ready to be cut down. Let me know if you would like a deposit to know that I am serious. Thanks.
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Its still a 5x10' sheet of 1/4" 6061 aluminum right now, waiting for its turn to be cut on a CNC water jet....You see last year the people that water jet my parts for me werent busy with that machine, but now they got into cutting stone and marble and **** like that...And they are very busy on that machine, even thou I put in my order a few weeks ago it still hasnt been cut....
Im on it thou....And they are literally just down the street from me, so as soon as I get my parts I'll be jigging up stays...Im shooting to have some ready early in the new year, about the 2nd week of Jan...
Im on it thou....And they are literally just down the street from me, so as soon as I get my parts I'll be jigging up stays...Im shooting to have some ready early in the new year, about the 2nd week of Jan...
Last edited by stock05; 12-18-2007 at 12:55 AM.
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Personally Id use the stock clipons if I were you, aftermarkets always move the bars forward. This leads to clearance problems, where the stock clipons give you more room because the bar comes out of the side of the clipns. And doesnt have to go infront of the fork tubes like aftermarkets do...
On my 03/04 with aftermarket flipped clipons I couldnt go nearly as turned out, as I can with the stock clipons flipped. And I cant seem to bent the stock one either
On my 03/04 with aftermarket flipped clipons I couldnt go nearly as turned out, as I can with the stock clipons flipped. And I cant seem to bent the stock one either
If you use the right aftermarket bars (convertibars) you can turn em waaaaay out and still have all the clearance you could ever need.... with 3" of extra space to fit all your controls exactly where you want them.
I used to use FI 0 degree and thought they were best.... then found 0 degree convertibars and now i'm kickin myself in the *** for cuttin down your stay....
the difference w/ these bars is unbelievable.... and i got the idea from you Johnny....
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If you use the right aftermarket bars (convertibars) you can turn em waaaaay out and still have all the clearance you could ever need.... with 3" of extra space to fit all your controls exactly where you want them.
I used to use FI 0 degree and thought they were best.... then found 0 degree convertibars and now i'm kickin myself in the *** for cuttin down your stay....
the difference w/ these bars is unbelievable.... and i got the idea from you Johnny....
post pics of the bars and a link?? how much did you spend?
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www.convertibars.com
go w/ the 0 degree fixed stainless steel bars.... i believe they're the "FG" model... they were big $$, bout $319 or somethin like that. Well worth the $$ though... super adjustable and WIDE turned out w/ room to spare.
there's some kind of holiday sale till 12/25 something like 10% off.
I'll get some pics tomorrow w/ johnnyP's stay and the new Ho Hey top triple w/ 1000rr forks... this is THE best setup I've ever tried and I'm sooooo happy i spent the $$ on it...
go w/ the 0 degree fixed stainless steel bars.... i believe they're the "FG" model... they were big $$, bout $319 or somethin like that. Well worth the $$ though... super adjustable and WIDE turned out w/ room to spare.
there's some kind of holiday sale till 12/25 something like 10% off.
I'll get some pics tomorrow w/ johnnyP's stay and the new Ho Hey top triple w/ 1000rr forks... this is THE best setup I've ever tried and I'm sooooo happy i spent the $$ on it...
Last edited by kj; 12-18-2007 at 04:24 AM.
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here's the link to 0 degree bars.... http://www.convertibars.com/Products.cfm
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here's the link to 0 degree bars.... http://www.convertibars.com/Products.cfm
i think those uppers looked like poo cut down that far. might as well go SF if you cut that much off
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Originally Posted by stock05
so does that mean the quality isnt going to be as good as the last ones
The sheets just lay on a table with a pool of water under it, and the head goes over it tracing out the parts with a jet stream of water(like a water pic at the dentist but more pressure)...Nothing actually touches the material so it doesnt matter what else they cut on that machine. They cut stone, marbel, plastic, glass, alumium, steel, etc etc......It will cut through 6" of steel plate! Now thats pressure.....
Originally Posted by kj
If you use the right aftermarket bars (convertibars) you can turn em waaaaay out and still have all the clearance you could ever need.... with 3" of extra space to fit all your controls exactly where you want them.
I used to use FI 0 degree and thought they were best.... then found 0 degree convertibars and now i'm kickin myself in the *** for cuttin down your stay....
the difference w/ these bars is unbelievable.... and i got the idea from you Johnny....
I used to use FI 0 degree and thought they were best.... then found 0 degree convertibars and now i'm kickin myself in the *** for cuttin down your stay....
the difference w/ these bars is unbelievable.... and i got the idea from you Johnny....
Originally Posted by suicidl
i think those uppers looked like poo cut down that far. might as well go SF if you cut that much off
I think it also helps with sponsors and stuff like that? I doubt Kawi would be too impressed if Kane wanted to rock their bikes naked.....Id think theyd want the bikes to look as close to the real thing as possible....