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Old 12-14-2007 | 11:22 PM
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ground out engine illegal

just sold a damn bike with the engine numbers ground out, is it the same as being in possession of an altered VIN? i dont **** with steamy **** just happened to come across this thing

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Old 12-14-2007 | 11:24 PM
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Re: ground out engine illegal

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just sold a damn bike with the engine numbers ground out, is it the same as being in possession of an altered VIN? i dont **** with steamy **** just happened to come across this thing
ie super illegal
who gives a ****, its only illegal if you get caught and its not like you ground them off, right? right?
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most cops wont look for a motor number unless the vin has been fucked with.
Old 12-15-2007 | 12:34 AM
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Re: ground out engine illegal

yea, make sure the frame # is clean. sometimes they don't know where to look on the frame for the numbers. if he needs help, SHOW HIM, lol. they rarely look at the motor numbers. dont' **** around and get it impounded or any **** like that.

p.s. steamy **** is maaaaaaad cheap.
Old 12-15-2007 | 03:50 AM
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its possion of stolen property and attempt to alter vin and then when they take the motor out they can still pull up that vin u can grind for days that number goes all the way to the bottom so baically dont even bother with somthing with no numbers
Old 12-15-2007 | 04:07 PM
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Re: ground out engine illegal

Originally Posted by LOWRYDER914
its possion of stolen property and attempt to alter vin and then when they take the motor out they can still pull up that vin u can grind for days that number goes all the way to the bottom so baically dont even bother with somthing with no numbers
How the **** would they pull the numbers when the material they were punched into is gone? Thats the biggest load of **** Ive heard in a while....All the way to the bottom
Old 12-15-2007 | 04:11 PM
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Re: ground out engine illegal

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How the **** would they pull the numbers when the material they were punched into is gone? Thats the biggest load of **** Ive heard in a while....All the way to the bottom
Its called an Acid Test. They can pull the #'s up even if they are ground down and welded and ground down again.
Old 12-15-2007 | 04:16 PM
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Re: ground out engine illegal

johnny p dont talk if u dont know acid will pull up anything
Old 12-15-2007 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LOWRYDER914
johnny p dont talk if u dont know acid will pull up anything
yeah, usually acid makes me pull up some funny moments from way back :YEAH
Old 12-15-2007 | 04:20 PM
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Sorry but I call BS!!!!!!!! I think they just say that to try and deter people from doing it. They punch those numbers in with metal dyes or engrave them, acid test imo wont show **** after its ground down because there was nothing put there from a dye or engraver to cause a chemical reaction.
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Re: ground out engine illegal

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Its called an Acid Test. They can pull the #'s up even if they are ground down and welded and ground down again.

that is ******* the biggest crock of **** ever, the only way that is possible is if you drop acid from the backside of the material
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Sorry but I call BS!!!!!!!! I think they just say that to try and deter people from doing it. They punch those numbers in with metal dyes or engrave them, acid test imo wont show **** after its ground down because there was nothing put there from a dye or engraver to cause a chemical reaction.
does anyone know anything about metal casting and metal forging? (aimed at everyone, but johnny)
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does anyone know anything about metal casting and metal forging? (aimed at everyone, but johnny)
ive seen how they do it on "how its made" on the discovery channel, does that count
Old 12-15-2007 | 04:33 PM
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i think that it is sad.. if they have to do this "acid test" ****.. its only a motor.. and yes.. stuff like that is dirt cheap..
Old 12-15-2007 | 04:34 PM
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they do it with guns all the time after people have grinded them off, but yea they can def. do it and its not that hard for them to do I guess. watched some show on history channel about that
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WTF is acid going to show? Most numbers are punched into the surface and are only 1mm deep max....If you grind off 2-3mm theres is no way the force from punching those numbers are going transfer any further then a mm or 2....

I wont believe it till I see it, and I aint ever seen **** like that before.... So let me know were I can get this acid? Cause I got a few frames that Ive re-VINd that I can try it on....No stolen **** but Ive ground down salvage numbers and engraved clean numbers from titles Ive bought....
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Re: ground out engine illegal

Originally Posted by JohnnyP
How the **** would they pull the numbers when the material they were punched into is gone? Thats the biggest load of **** Ive heard in a while....All the way to the bottom
Originally Posted by crroyalflush
Sorry but I call BS!!!!!!!! I think they just say that to try and deter people from doing it. They punch those numbers in with metal dyes or engrave them, acid test imo wont show **** after its ground down because there was nothing put there from a dye or engraver to cause a chemical reaction.
Originally Posted by stock05
that is ******* the biggest crock of **** ever, the only way that is possible is if you drop acid from the backside of the material
you 3 are wrong. come to florida. and see if they can not get motor numbers out with the acid test. i have seen it done. and most of the florida cops know where the motor numbers ae supposed to be. thats why this is the dirty south
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they do it with guns all the time after people have grinded them off, but yea they can def. do it and its not that hard for them to do I guess. watched some show on history channel about that
Guns arnt made of cast aluminum Id assume the punching process for hardened steel gun parts use alot more force and tranfer deeper into the part....But were not talkin about guns now are we
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Guns arnt made of cast aluminum Id assume the punching process for hardened steel gun parts use alot more force and tranfer deeper into the part....But were not talkin about guns now are we
they can get the numbers off the frame from the inside of the neck. it is easy for them to do
Old 12-15-2007 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by suicidl
you 3 are wrong. come to florida. and see if they can not get motor numbers out with the acid test. i have seen it done. and most of the florida cops know where the motor numbers ae supposed to be. thats why this is the dirty south
I dont need to travel to do this, if you could just tell me what kind of acid is required and what the process is Id be willing to try it out.....Ive psyically removed 2-3mm of material and I just cant imagine the numbers transfering any deeper then that..Id like to see it thou



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