joey b

i have been with ryan for 6yrs now and travel with 2x to china to ride RYAN is going to flip out when he hears this ryan and i took tony lasttime with us cuz we where short a rider cuz fatty was hurt.

and when tony got back had nothing but b.s storys how he got to go 2 china and what he did there .

joey b

ya tony did do this for us. as he called us hay guys i got 7 paying shows lined up for us so get down here. we got there and NO SHOWS at all. and we stayed at jim vandles place good times but it was all a b.s story that tony dreamed up about the shows.



you know tony mite be doing this for ryan but he should of talk to vmc about this and not told me so many b.s storys


and tony can read this in china ryan and i did the hole time we went over there.

Kaneone

seize the opportunity...
if i was seriously career ending injured.. and any other rider friend or not was given an opportunity to seize my kawasaki contract... please... i would expect nothing less... people have already tried for less

sad truth is you dont even have to be injured to have someone try to swoop. there are many peoples that i know instances where immoral practices have been applied in attempts to secure personal gain... myself included.

survival of the fittest, there is no such thing as job security in the entertainment industry..

-kane

1SMF

That's It! I'm calling Kawasaki tomorrow and stealing your deal! **** I can almost do wheelie:YEAH

JonnY X

Remind you this is the guy who contacted Discovery Channel saying he could beat you're Record and if i remeber correct you started a thread talking **** to him about it saying you did not think i would find out about it Blah Blah Blah.

JEFF4EZ

That's because you don't see half the other **** Tony L's crooked *** has done to people. He's a Class A piece of ****.
I changed my original post because I've been show the light by mikee. As much as I disagree and can't say I would do the same thing, both him and Kaneone have a valid point. Maybe I should be more heartless.

silverstunterR6

Danny was right, this sounds exactly like tony. I have heard stories about Tony ******* over his "friends" countless times.

Its ******* sad that it involves Ryan S but the fact of the matter is we need to keep the focus on Ryan. I have hope that he will be riding again.
tony is going to get whats coming to him, but Ryan needs us now.

silverstunterR6

TOUCHE'
hahaha Kane eat a dick

Dean Ellis

Dean Ellis

i am going to have to say i agreed. based on the situation of ryan.

mikkee

I may not be a smart man, but what I believe Kane is saying is that is just the way it is in the entertainment business, and if you're not doing it someone is going to to do it to you, and you will get nowhere - hence "survival of the fittest."

In a perfect world everything would be done with mutual respect, and people would never get undercut. But we're talking about shows, contracts, and business, which has to do w/ money - the root to all evil, and 1 persons greed will overcome all good deeds, and this will never change.

silverstunterR6

^ we have ourselves a philosopher
at least HE can read through the bullshit

Kaneone

your absolutely correct.. and he did it in an extremely untactful way at that.. lol. but when i put him on blast it wasnt in a: "your a POS and i wanna rape your dog" kind of attitude it was more a "get a load of this goofball" mentality.. lol

-kane

FrankieG

Hey Joe.

Ya, I realize TONY LOVES to embelish and take chicken **** and make it seem like Chicken salad , Tony likes to take possible shows and do some wishful thinking but it usually doesn't happen.... but I'm trying to change him and make him more careful about what he tells people

I wasn't there and I have been in the middle of TONY drama before but it usually ends up working out in the end and I NEVER totally trust anyone...and I try to ask as many questions as possible especially of Tony....I questioned him quite a bit about this trip and he seemed pretty honest about it and how he answered my questions led me to believe him....I don't believe Tony was trying to Steal the Show, He kept reiterating that This was just to help Ryan out and Not many other good riders can just up and leave for 2 months to CHINA...

Well, Tony is there hopefully he represents Ryan, VMC and himself well enough that all you guys will be on that moto gp ride for years to come!

I hope it all works out for you guys and I definately want Ryan to be happy, recover that best he can and you guys are always welcome here in Daytona with me......

samurai87

Thats a pretty flawed immoral unethical statement which just goes to show your overall insecurity....I know CEO's of fortune 500 companies who have managed to come to their position with humility and moral standards.

If you are truely good enough you dont need to inact immoral practices to secure your shows!!!

People should want you to see you b/c of how good you are not b/c of who you stepped on, pushed aside, or lied to. I wounder what your sponsors would think about this statement.

I'm sure kawi would not condone the utilization of immoral business conduct to further careers.....and as a rider for kawi I would think its your job to act in a way becoming of what sponsors want the public to percieve!!!


overall....IMMATURITY AT ITS FINEST!! CONGRADS

SIC J

i wouldnt do that to you..........







ONLY cuz i had a 636 and didnt like it... GO HONDA!!!!

Elfmaze

Besides being a goofy *** guy, I personally have not had any problems with Tony. He loves what he does and the people pf the stunt community. I think he just saw an opportunity and jumped on it. if he didn't someone else would have. I haven't heard about ryans condition but i'm shure that tony would be in contact with all that hes tried doing for him

joey b

your a gud man we will be back this winter and hoping ryan will be next to me !!!!!!!!!11

Kaneone

your absolutely correct!!
i never said i condone, or conduct immoral business procedures.
Im not an immoral person. I don't advocate lying, cheating or stealing.

but in business and in life, there is often times a situation in which there can be only one for the job and in order to achieve that you have to do what is nescisary. (i cant spell it)

im not saying one should throw someone under a bus, or ruthlessly attack another. I am however saying that when an opportunity to further oneself arrises, you better believe that if you don't seize it someone else will. which to the ones that don't get it could be viewed at stepping on toes.

in regards to the CEO's you know I am sure they are quite humble and moral, but i also am sure they arn't quick to tell you about the situations in which they may have been forced to make an executive decision to better their own careers or for the overall betterment of their company. thats what CEO's do...

only the strong survive.

I dont think i have ever kicked someone when they were down, or been immoral and hurt someone in the process for my own gain. I enjoy helping others, and try to actively consider others feelings and situations before acting. but then again I know i am guilty of cutting my losses, or utilizing a relationship for the gain of myself and my program.

thats just life man... us humans.. we make mistakes.

besides this isnt about me, its about Tony. and in that situation it seems he did exactly what he needed to to secure a 2 month long paying gig to better himself, and due to circumstance it seems he made his choice quietly and without regret. He most likely was the best man for the job. Promoters are intelligent people to and have opinions and options they can weigh before making choices. cheers to that... in response to his personality. i agree with SMF.. he was very visually shaken by Ryans injury and selflessly did what he could to make the situation as comfortable as possible for Ryan. that alone should have qualified him to seize the opportunity for this china gig. better him than someone else..

theres a difference between being a winner and winning.

-kane

Nick Apex

Speaking of such, still waiting on that phone call......