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Old 09-17-2007 | 09:49 PM
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I’ve been trying to do a slow wheelie for awhile now , I have scraped it a few times , the problem I am having is the dam thing keeps stalling , im going like 4, 5 MPH with the stock sprocket while doing the wheelie witch is a 42 tooth , I have my foot in the back seat and every time it stalls my knee slams into the gas tank the pain has gotten excruciating I did it again on Saturday and I cant walk today ..I have disabled the tip over sensor
So here is my question if I turn the idle up to like 3000 RPM will it still stall at 4 , 5 MPH because of the small sprocket or will that help ?


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Old 09-17-2007 | 09:53 PM
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Re: stall

haha i remember those days.
the lever on the left clip on, its called the clutch, use it.
even if you only pull it in AFTER you stall it will prevent the knee into the tank...
Old 09-17-2007 | 09:59 PM
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The **** happens to fast one min its all good the next it’s BAM oh **** that hurt. will turning the idle up help or that slow will it still stall
Old 09-17-2007 | 10:39 PM
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thats what people mean when they say "catch idle"...if your going 4-5 mph with no idle...thats better...now yes if you turn the idle up it will help from stalling but when the bike starts to pull past BP dont kill it with the brake...good luck
Old 09-17-2007 | 10:56 PM
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Re: stall

with stock sprockets the bike will chug at that low of speed. you have to feather the clutch to keep it going or it'll stall and die.

also, when it stall, pull in teh clutch so it doesn't slam down...second reason to use the clutch.


to recap: use clutch by feathering to keep a stock geared bike from stalling at slow speed

second: use clutch to freewheel bike when you don't follow rule number 1 so you aren't slammed down.
Old 09-17-2007 | 10:59 PM
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I don’t think I fully understand , I am barely touching the break when I stalls
Old 09-17-2007 | 11:09 PM
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yes, you need to turn the Idle up to 3000 or even 3500.
Old 09-17-2007 | 11:25 PM
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Re: stall

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I don’t think I fully understand , I am barely touching the break when I stalls
just pull in the goddamn clutch when it stalls and the bike will roll instead of buck your knee into the tank.
Old 09-18-2007 | 12:07 AM
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Re: stall

First off 4000-4500 rpm is way too high, that's rediculous. Keep it more around the 3000-3500 rpm range and yes feather the clutch. Also STOCK rear on an F4I is a 46 tooth sprocket, NOT a 42, so if it is in fact a 42 that may be your problem. LOL. Hope that helps.

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Old 09-18-2007 | 12:30 AM
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Re: stall

Originally Posted by jdridin
First off 4000-4500 rpm is way too high, that's rediculous. Keep it more around the 3000-3500 rpm range and yes feather the clutch. Also STOCK rear on an F4I is a 46 tooth sprocket, NOT a 42, so if it is in fact a 42 that may be your problem. LOL. Hope that helps.

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Old 09-18-2007 | 02:17 AM
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Re: stall

Originally Posted by JvGSXR750
I don’t think I fully understand , I am barely touching the break when I stalls
stop all the turn the idle up nonsense.

you don't want to go over 3k....or even that high. i keep mine 2-2.5k. once you start gettin it high it just sounds stupid and causes you to use more rear brake.

anyways, you don't have to be on the rear brake for it to chug and die. when the bike slows down and starts chugging, you have to feather (lightly pull on the clutch) so that it slips the clutch and it'll stay running. that is the drawback of being stock geared. it's harder to rock it super slow unless you put a bigger rear sprocket on so that the motor can pull the bike at low rpm
Old 09-18-2007 | 02:45 AM
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Re: stall

Originally Posted by aw0n0
just pull in the goddamn clutch when it stalls and the bike will roll instead of buck your knee into the tank.

either i smoked to much or that was just a funny *** comment. are u at stock idle now? i usually run mine between 2.5 and 3k. learn to feather the clutch when u hear the bike wanting to stall... after a while u will ge the hang of it and ur knees will thank u.
Old 09-18-2007 | 02:53 AM
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Re: stall

if your rockin 4-5mph I'd say your doing just FINE for stock gearing

If you wanna go slower, only way is to work the clutch, or gear it..

My f4i runs like ****, and I can only get down to around 8-10mph before it stalls out on stock gearing..
Whereas my friends 600rr with a 60t rear I can hit 4-5mph indicated and hold it
Old 09-18-2007 | 04:24 AM
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yea turn up the idle
Old 09-18-2007 | 07:09 AM
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Wear some damn knee pads too. My 01 GSXR tank looked the same. lol
Old 09-18-2007 | 11:23 AM
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Re: stall

Originally Posted by killinthafiddy
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Ahh, nice call. I guess i'm just so used to everyone rockin F4I's nowadays. 4000-4500 rpm is still crazy high on any bike.
Old 09-18-2007 | 11:56 AM
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Re: stall

Originally Posted by jdridin
Ahh, nice call. I guess i'm just so used to everyone rockin F4I's nowadays. 4000-4500 rpm is still crazy high on any bike.
ya, 4000rpms is 1999 bullshit
Old 09-18-2007 | 11:57 AM
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Re: stall

and thanks to this thread...I'm gonna turn my idle down from 3500 to 3000 (as some of the more experienced guys here mentioned )(and I'm a newb, and I knew that 4500 was too high .....unless (from what I've read) you're trying to pull 3rd or 4th gear no handers or something)

I'm also gonna try to start feathering the clutch (just before stalling ...when I hear my bike pinging and detonating...lol)... I'm just learning idle...and I've stalled it out a few times now.... and this will be my next little hurdle. thanks to those who posted good info
Old 09-18-2007 | 12:02 PM
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Re: stall

Originally Posted by tallyturbo
either i smoked to much or that was just a funny *** comment. are u at stock idle now? i usually run mine between 2.5 and 3k. learn to feather the clutch when u hear the bike wanting to stall... after a while u will ge the hang of it and ur knees will thank u.
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