Steering staggered wheelies?
08-11-2007, 05:30 PM
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Steering staggered wheelies?
I'm having trouble steering my staggered wheelies. I can do it on my dirt bike but I'm having trouble on my 2001 R1. I know to steer wheelies you have to be eather at or behind ballence point and shift your weight to the one side. My R1 always seemes to want to go to one side. When my bike drifts right I take all my weight off my right peg and put it all on my left but it doesn't make a difference.
I was wondering if anyone had some tips on body position for this. Or just some tips too try to help this?
I was running 20LBS in my rear and I thought mabey if I bump it up it will make it steer easier so I bumped my pilot powers rear to 27lbs and it makes it alittle easier but they always want to go to one side or the other.
I was wondering if anyone had some tips on body position for this. Or just some tips too try to help this?
I was running 20LBS in my rear and I thought mabey if I bump it up it will make it steer easier so I bumped my pilot powers rear to 27lbs and it makes it alittle easier but they always want to go to one side or the other.
08-11-2007, 05:38 PM
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Re: Steering staggered wheelies?
I'm just a tad in front. I'm picking up alittle speed but hardley any. I'm getting smoother but I keep going from ballence point to just in front. I'm not chasing the wheelie I'm riding it out just picking up speed slowly.
08-11-2007, 05:52 PM
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Re: Steering staggered wheelies?
shifting your body weight should move you a lot if you are at or behind balance. i usually throttle my bike behind balance when i shift my weight to get it to move. moves pretty easy for me.
a bike will naturally drift right becuase of the road crown....but it shouldn't be too hard to get it to change lanes.
i lean back, put pressure on the peg in the direction i want to go and pull back on the clip-on of hte opposite side: want to go left, shift weight to left peg, pull back on right clipon (pull back, not turn bars...i pull the clipon as if i was going to pull it towards my chest...the bars do not turn left or right in this movement).
a bike will naturally drift right becuase of the road crown....but it shouldn't be too hard to get it to change lanes.
i lean back, put pressure on the peg in the direction i want to go and pull back on the clip-on of hte opposite side: want to go left, shift weight to left peg, pull back on right clipon (pull back, not turn bars...i pull the clipon as if i was going to pull it towards my chest...the bars do not turn left or right in this movement).
08-11-2007, 06:01 PM
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Re: Steering staggered wheelies?
shifting your body weight should move you a lot if you are at or behind balance. i usually throttle my bike behind balance when i shift my weight to get it to move. moves pretty easy for me.
a bike will naturally drift right becuase of the road crown....but it shouldn't be too hard to get it to change lanes.
i lean back, put pressure on the peg in the direction i want to go and pull back on the clip-on of hte opposite side: want to go left, shift weight to left peg, pull back on right clipon (pull back, not turn bars...i pull the clipon as if i was going to pull it towards my chest...the bars do not turn left or right in this movement).
a bike will naturally drift right becuase of the road crown....but it shouldn't be too hard to get it to change lanes.
i lean back, put pressure on the peg in the direction i want to go and pull back on the clip-on of hte opposite side: want to go left, shift weight to left peg, pull back on right clipon (pull back, not turn bars...i pull the clipon as if i was going to pull it towards my chest...the bars do not turn left or right in this movement).
thanks
08-11-2007, 06:38 PM
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Re: Steering staggered wheelies?
Ya I think that was my problem I'm not quite high enough. I keep trying to keep it at that point but I keep getting close and then coming back. I'm gonna keep trying to get it higher and keep it at that point. Everytime I get there I fall just a tad in front of it. I was alot smoother on my F2 then this. Even with -1 +8 on the F2 it wasn't half as twitchie as this. I was thinking I was close enough to steer but I guess I can't cause I can't keep it quite there. Thanks for the help.
08-11-2007, 07:21 PM
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Re: Steering staggered wheelies?
shifting your body weight should move you a lot if you are at or behind balance. i usually throttle my bike behind balance when i shift my weight to get it to move. moves pretty easy for me.
a bike will naturally drift right becuase of the road crown....but it shouldn't be too hard to get it to change lanes.
i lean back, put pressure on the peg in the direction i want to go and pull back on the clip-on of hte opposite side: want to go left, shift weight to left peg, pull back on right clipon (pull back, not turn bars...i pull the clipon as if i was going to pull it towards my chest...the bars do not turn left or right in this movement).
a bike will naturally drift right becuase of the road crown....but it shouldn't be too hard to get it to change lanes.
i lean back, put pressure on the peg in the direction i want to go and pull back on the clip-on of hte opposite side: want to go left, shift weight to left peg, pull back on right clipon (pull back, not turn bars...i pull the clipon as if i was going to pull it towards my chest...the bars do not turn left or right in this movement).
08-11-2007, 07:31 PM
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Re: Steering staggered wheelies?
I don't have any place to practice really is my bigest problem. I gotta get a F4i. I'll have the F4i and practice in the lots and keep the R1 for when I'm riding street. I keep getting the ******* cops called on me. R1 is way too nice to get trashed in the lots. I need a nice stunter.
Wish I had a nice backroad with no cops.
I'll have this paid off in January. Then I'm picking up a F4i.
Wish I had a nice backroad with no cops.
I'll have this paid off in January. Then I'm picking up a F4i.
08-11-2007, 09:15 PM
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I have decided that I can't drive this ****** on 2 wheels and I got in trouble on it AGAIN today. I'm keeping this thing in my house until January when I pay it off. Then I'm gonna sell it and hook up a phat F4i. I need a lot bike. Too many ******* cops and *** hole people.
I'm bipolar so I'll probably change my mind in 3 munites but for now I positive it's not comming out of my living room.
I'm bipolar so I'll probably change my mind in 3 munites but for now I positive it's not comming out of my living room.
08-22-2007, 09:43 PM
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Re: Steering staggered wheelies?
^ Ya well that idea lasted about 2 days.
I found my problem with steering staggered wheelies. Even though I would put weight on my one peg I still subcounsiouly would have weight on the other peg making it harder to steer. When I got the bike I also lowered my rear tire pressure to 20lbs. Well I increased it to about 24 and that helped then 27 and that helped more. I put it at 30 tonight but havent tried it yet cause its gonna rain.
I'm not really having problems with wobble so i don't think that low of tire pressure was nessassary. Now that I'm taking all my weight off the oposite peg that helps along with the more pressure I'm adding. I'm also getting alot smoother on the throttle because I'm getting used to this bike. I'm getting alot better at steering them and I'm almost happy with my rear pressure. i'm gonna keep trying different pressures until I find the perfect setting.
thanks for the help guys
I found my problem with steering staggered wheelies. Even though I would put weight on my one peg I still subcounsiouly would have weight on the other peg making it harder to steer. When I got the bike I also lowered my rear tire pressure to 20lbs. Well I increased it to about 24 and that helped then 27 and that helped more. I put it at 30 tonight but havent tried it yet cause its gonna rain.
I'm not really having problems with wobble so i don't think that low of tire pressure was nessassary. Now that I'm taking all my weight off the oposite peg that helps along with the more pressure I'm adding. I'm also getting alot smoother on the throttle because I'm getting used to this bike. I'm getting alot better at steering them and I'm almost happy with my rear pressure. i'm gonna keep trying different pressures until I find the perfect setting.
thanks for the help guys
08-22-2007, 11:27 PM
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Re: Steering staggered wheelies?
^ Ya well that idea lasted about 2 days.
I found my problem with steering staggered wheelies. Even though I would put weight on my one peg I still subcounsiouly would have weight on the other peg making it harder to steer. When I got the bike I also lowered my rear tire pressure to 20lbs. Well I increased it to about 24 and that helped then 27 and that helped more. I put it at 30 tonight but havent tried it yet cause its gonna rain.
I'm not really having problems with wobble so i don't think that low of tire pressure was nessassary. Now that I'm taking all my weight off the oposite peg that helps along with the more pressure I'm adding. I'm also getting alot smoother on the throttle because I'm getting used to this bike. I'm getting alot better at steering them and I'm almost happy with my rear pressure. i'm gonna keep trying different pressures until I find the perfect setting.
thanks for the help guys
I found my problem with steering staggered wheelies. Even though I would put weight on my one peg I still subcounsiouly would have weight on the other peg making it harder to steer. When I got the bike I also lowered my rear tire pressure to 20lbs. Well I increased it to about 24 and that helped then 27 and that helped more. I put it at 30 tonight but havent tried it yet cause its gonna rain.
I'm not really having problems with wobble so i don't think that low of tire pressure was nessassary. Now that I'm taking all my weight off the oposite peg that helps along with the more pressure I'm adding. I'm also getting alot smoother on the throttle because I'm getting used to this bike. I'm getting alot better at steering them and I'm almost happy with my rear pressure. i'm gonna keep trying different pressures until I find the perfect setting.
thanks for the help guys
I'm not sure about everyone else but I don't lower my pressure for wobbles
. I lower it so the bike doesn't steer too easy in a wheelie...
08-23-2007, 12:02 AM
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08-23-2007, 12:50 AM
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Re: Steering staggered wheelies?
Wobbles are caused by either going way to fast for the gear that your in or by chopping the throttle. 
To seer bring it to BP or slightly behind it, the more behind it the easier it will steer. Be in staggered and bring it to BP, dip it behind a little bit while covering the rear brake and just put some pressure on the peg of whcih you wish to go towards like right hand corner grip with your right knee and push down on the right peg you'll go to like its easy as cake.
To seer bring it to BP or slightly behind it, the more behind it the easier it will steer. Be in staggered and bring it to BP, dip it behind a little bit while covering the rear brake and just put some pressure on the peg of whcih you wish to go towards like right hand corner grip with your right knee and push down on the right peg you'll go to like its easy as cake.
08-23-2007, 12:56 AM
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