Super Streetbike magazine
08-01-2007, 01:45 PM
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Re: Super Streetbike magazine
Go to any large bikenight and look at what type of riders are the majority - pretty sure there were at least 50-100 custom busas last week at the one I was at, and only myself and borne were on stunt bikes, plus about 3 random squids. Its the industry trend bottom line. The 30k people that care only about wheelies are in the minority.
Don't most magazines pride themselves in focusing on the reader not the advertiser.
08-01-2007, 01:50 PM
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yea maybe 4 out of the past 5 have been just "sick bikes". But lets go back an entire year and look at your cover bikes. Every month its some ugly pile, made by a company that advertises in your mag, like that ugly repsol knockoff by bang customs, def not mag worthy by any means, but they pay for a 1/2 page every month so you gotta put them in? Lame.
Bang Customs has never advertised with SSB.
08-01-2007, 02:30 PM
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Go to any large bikenight and look at what type of riders are the majority - pretty sure there were at least 50-100 custom busas last week at the one I was at, and only myself and borne were on stunt bikes, plus about 3 random squids. Its the industry trend bottom line. The 30k people that care only about wheelies are in the minority.
Very true. I have had a couple conversations with Dave about this, and see his point of veiw totally. I think that there is room for both markets in the magazine, and for now am happy that we even get coverage for a "sport" that hasn't really even been recognized as a sport yet.
On a side note to Dave, did Kickstand & Wheelies send you pics of the new Busa they just finished? I helped them put it all together last month when I was home and it came out pretty good....
08-01-2007, 02:38 PM
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i hope nobody takes offense to this but the two people getting the most coverage in SSB is dave and zamora...i see a pic of them goofin off on nearly every other page....how bout swappin them out for some real stunters.....**** i got dope pictures for days of the otown crew ill submit them for free.....just holla:YEAH
for example:
SSB AUG 2007
pg. 12 dave pissing in a urinal
pg. 49 dave using power tools
pg. 92 dave and zamora doing 70's dance moves
pg. 98 zamora gettin his head pet
pg.100 dave and zamora modeling bikes
i love u guys but damn...come on now...is that what the readers wanna see?
for example:
SSB AUG 2007
pg. 12 dave pissing in a urinal
pg. 49 dave using power tools
pg. 92 dave and zamora doing 70's dance moves
pg. 98 zamora gettin his head pet
pg.100 dave and zamora modeling bikes
i love u guys but damn...come on now...is that what the readers wanna see?
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08-01-2007, 02:53 PM
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ew, cold, that pic is from 8 months ago, but i'm sure if i had a camera crew fallowing me around taking pictures of me doing dumb *** sh*t all the time i'd have a better one. I've never claimed to be a great stunter by any means. Just have a few different bikes with a few different purposes. None of which are stretched out ugly piles that any tool with 15k could buy on ebay. You don't even have any of the "cool" stretched piles in your mag anyways. Show me any of your pics of a 300 single sided 1000rr, wait, bet you don't have one. But go ahead and ripe on my lack of stunting ability. At least people don't b*tch about me or what i do for a living. Can you say the same, no.
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08-01-2007, 03:09 PM
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Most of our products shoots on the west coast and 99% of the time they are last minute pics.
08-01-2007, 04:31 PM
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ew, cold, that pic is from 8 months ago, but i'm sure if i had a camera crew fallowing me around taking pictures of me doing dumb *** sh*t all the time i'd have a better one. I've never claimed to be a great stunter by any means. Just have a few different bikes with a few different purposes. None of which are stretched out ugly piles that any tool with 15k could buy on ebay. You don't even have any of the "cool" stretched piles in your mag anyways. Show me any of your pics of a 300 single sided 1000rr, wait, bet you don't have one. But go ahead and ripe on my lack of stunting ability. At least people don't b*tch about me or what i do for a living. Can you say the same, no.
08-01-2007, 06:48 PM
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08-01-2007, 06:59 PM
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Go to any large bikenight and look at what type of riders are the majority - pretty sure there were at least 50-100 custom busas last week at the one I was at, and only myself and borne were on stunt bikes, plus about 3 random squids. Its the industry trend bottom line. The 30k people that care only about wheelies are in the minority.
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08-01-2007, 07:09 PM
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People want to see it, IMO, but it has to be presented to them in a way that keeps their interest. Stunting is not about the bike, it's about the rider and what he or she can do. (and "who they are" the public loves to be able to identify, either positive or negative, with an athlete, and good or bad, it's money when they start to know your name and think they know who you are)
The people who are going to be most excited by stunts are primarily younger, and not always riders themselves, so SSB would have a hard time sustaining the market they do have on stunting alone, and aren't likely to pull the entire potential demographic because they are specialized toward sportbike owners/afficianados.
I can respect that SSB started with stunting, but if they want to get bigger, you guys have to let them, and it means it's not all about you, and it has to be about streetbikes, in whatever sense appeals to their market.
Troll for journalists from sporting magazines, ESPN etc, (write to them, if you're interesting, they'll show up) really put on a show for these people, tell them they can get in there at the inception of a sport, and then present an actual sport to them, plus the street side, let them work the angles they find exciting. Just give them the angles that are exciting. The people outside your industry are the only ones who can blow up your market. Nearly everyone inside the MC industry already knows about stunting, has formed their own opinion and is buying stuff accordingly. Plus bikers are harder to impress with a bike than regular people. Regular people will get impressed, run out, and buy your ****.
The same people who don't play basketball but will spend $2k+ a year on basketball related products.
The people who are going to be most excited by stunts are primarily younger, and not always riders themselves, so SSB would have a hard time sustaining the market they do have on stunting alone, and aren't likely to pull the entire potential demographic because they are specialized toward sportbike owners/afficianados.
I can respect that SSB started with stunting, but if they want to get bigger, you guys have to let them, and it means it's not all about you, and it has to be about streetbikes, in whatever sense appeals to their market.
Troll for journalists from sporting magazines, ESPN etc, (write to them, if you're interesting, they'll show up) really put on a show for these people, tell them they can get in there at the inception of a sport, and then present an actual sport to them, plus the street side, let them work the angles they find exciting. Just give them the angles that are exciting. The people outside your industry are the only ones who can blow up your market. Nearly everyone inside the MC industry already knows about stunting, has formed their own opinion and is buying stuff accordingly. Plus bikers are harder to impress with a bike than regular people. Regular people will get impressed, run out, and buy your ****.
The same people who don't play basketball but will spend $2k+ a year on basketball related products.
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08-01-2007, 10:39 PM
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god.......... now stfu and go do a shoot for some male spank mag
i hope nobody takes offense to this but the two people getting the most coverage in SSB is dave and zamora...i see a pic of them goofin off on nearly every other page....how bout swappin them out for some real stunters.....**** i got dope pictures for days of the otown crew ill submit them for free.....just holla:YEAH
for example:
SSB AUG 2007
pg. 12 dave pissing in a urinal
pg. 49 dave using power tools
pg. 92 dave and zamora doing 70's dance moves
pg. 98 zamora gettin his head pet
pg.100 dave and zamora modeling bikes
i love u guys but damn...come on now...is that what the readers wanna see?
for example:
SSB AUG 2007
pg. 12 dave pissing in a urinal
pg. 49 dave using power tools
pg. 92 dave and zamora doing 70's dance moves
pg. 98 zamora gettin his head pet
pg.100 dave and zamora modeling bikes
i love u guys but damn...come on now...is that what the readers wanna see?
pick up any car magazine you want and ill guarantee there are that many if not more reporter/editor shots in the mag........ they do that to give the reader a sense of familiarity to the people "tellin the story"...... its not new..... its a very old idea...... i figured u might have seen it done once or twice being a video guy
08-01-2007, 10:41 PM
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08-02-2007, 06:43 AM
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pick up any car magazine you want and ill guarantee there are that many if not more reporter/editor shots in the mag........ they do that to give the reader a sense of familiarity to the people "tellin the story"...... its not new..... its a very old idea...... i figured u might have seen it done once or twice being a video guy
...have you seen any of his work?
08-02-2007, 06:46 AM
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08-02-2007, 09:54 AM
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i guess im just a little dissapointed that in the last year of SSB issues i have never once seen a single picture of a stunter doing a new trick (besides maybe an acro....GAY) and i myself probably have about 30 pictures of tricks people still havent seen and i thought that a huge magazine like SSB would try and seek out the newest and hottest up and coming riders and what new tricks they are bringing to the sport instead of just constantly highlighting the big names.....of course people are loosing interest in the stunting parts of the magazine because every issue they pic up they see the same 5 riders doing the same 10 tricks (every single stunt cover shot they ever had was either a stoppie or a regular wheelie).......DOES ANYONE SEE WHERE IM GOING WITH THIS.....its the exact same thing with the video market right now....over the last 2 years every stunt group and their mother made a dvd and big distributors bought every title and now bike shops across the nation have 20 dvd titles they cant sell because they are all the exact same and boring.....innovation is the only thing that can keep this sport....or any sport alive
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08-02-2007, 09:58 AM
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