Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
#21
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
Originally Posted by Kaneone
I already wrote a thread about this on Stuntride.com a long time ago check it out:
http://www.stuntride.com/forum/index.php?topic=201.15
you wanna know what I bring to the table? ask Darius, 'cause that disrespectful asswipe was CALLING ME asking for help on how to land Aplinestars.
Im sorry if im about to sound like an angry negative person but ill tell ya this.
I've learned that most stunt riders are all out for themselves and will take take take information, advice, tricks, and rarely give back or help anyone else but themselves.
I've been burned several times for giving out free information like that, I have a strong list of riders who have put years worth of time money and effort into my program to support me, and in return those are the riders (clint ewing, Edub whitcomb, TIGHT FX, sic riders, hell even the socal boys kendall , mikeyd and 2 tone have put more effort in than most)
those are the riders that i wanna help.
I never got the how to be sponsored handbook in school.
But i did pay my dues and bust my *** to get what I have.
posting up my resume on a public internet forum for everyone to steal, use, copy, and acheive higher without even so much as giving props in return ...your nuts!!
you want inside my head, contact me direct. an I will be more than happy to help.
ask anyone whos ever met me. this **** is all i talk about.. lol.. and I talk a lot! haha
heres the best advice i can give.
If you want to be "sponsored"
be pro. look pro, talk pro, act pro, and make sure EVERYONE knows... your pro.
-kane
http://www.stuntride.com/forum/index.php?topic=201.15
you wanna know what I bring to the table? ask Darius, 'cause that disrespectful asswipe was CALLING ME asking for help on how to land Aplinestars.
Im sorry if im about to sound like an angry negative person but ill tell ya this.
I've learned that most stunt riders are all out for themselves and will take take take information, advice, tricks, and rarely give back or help anyone else but themselves.
I've been burned several times for giving out free information like that, I have a strong list of riders who have put years worth of time money and effort into my program to support me, and in return those are the riders (clint ewing, Edub whitcomb, TIGHT FX, sic riders, hell even the socal boys kendall , mikeyd and 2 tone have put more effort in than most)
those are the riders that i wanna help.
I never got the how to be sponsored handbook in school.
But i did pay my dues and bust my *** to get what I have.
posting up my resume on a public internet forum for everyone to steal, use, copy, and acheive higher without even so much as giving props in return ...your nuts!!
you want inside my head, contact me direct. an I will be more than happy to help.
ask anyone whos ever met me. this **** is all i talk about.. lol.. and I talk a lot! haha
heres the best advice i can give.
If you want to be "sponsored"
be pro. look pro, talk pro, act pro, and make sure EVERYONE knows... your pro.
-kane
I've been avoiding this, but Kane, maybe people stick it to you because they know you'd do it to them.
For those who don't know, or only know the bs this ****bandit has said: Kane invited me out to film him, stay at his place and get to know the inside scoop on a stunters life. Given that I was just getting started on this documentary, I was thrilled. He even picked me up at the airport. And I had a lot of fun getting to know Kane and his friends. By the time I got to Fresno, though, Kane was like a different person. There were some uncomfortable moments here and there, hell, I was in a strange place, with strangers, doing something I've never done before. I was nervous and overwhelmed, paid my own way, and picked up the tab here and there when it seemed appropriate.
I decided to extend my trip, and film a few more people and another show before I went back home. Which I did, had a great time and made some new friends.
Meanwhile Kane was telling people I was a stalker, a groupie, a whatever... And when he was talking to me, he was steady running down the other people with whom he was very friendly to their faces.
I asked for very little from Kane, and he could have expected to gain much more from the experience, but he proved himself to be a total phony with the mentality of a seventh grade chick. He is not someone I would ever help in any way.
This is coming from a person who gives money to the same bum every couple of days, despite that bum having done nothing for me ever. Kane, I think you're a d1ck.
#22
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
Excessa, I have never met you or talked to you. But you sure are doing your best to sound like you know something about the stunt world on this site...
Is it me or are you in every other post these days offering advice or stating some opinion..Do you even ride ?
Honestly I have no clue about your situation but you sound like a groupie / stalker...
Sorry
SK
Is it me or are you in every other post these days offering advice or stating some opinion..Do you even ride ?
Honestly I have no clue about your situation but you sound like a groupie / stalker...
Sorry
SK
#23
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
Originally Posted by SmurfKilla
Honestly I have no clue about your situation but you sound like a groupie / stalker...
Sorry
SK
Sorry
SK
#24
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
Originally Posted by jowalskiMO
i thought it was interesting that thehate mentioned riding street.
Our team rides street more than we hit the lots, and proudly does so. When we contacted KBC about sponsoring us, our contact was actually thrilled about our presence on the streets. Shocked us, but we were thrilled. Sometimes sponsors actually like the idea of you being out with other riders pushing product to people who may not see it elsewhere, although i agree that some would be turned off by this. Some would say riding street narrows your possibilities, but take the Streetfighterz. They have opened alot of doors that many thought impossible, (Videos in walmart etc..._) , all while tearing up the streets running from law enforcement officials.
The biggest thing in hooking sponsors is being open and honest with what you can do for them, what you expect from them in return, and what they expect from you conduct wise.
Our team rides street more than we hit the lots, and proudly does so. When we contacted KBC about sponsoring us, our contact was actually thrilled about our presence on the streets. Shocked us, but we were thrilled. Sometimes sponsors actually like the idea of you being out with other riders pushing product to people who may not see it elsewhere, although i agree that some would be turned off by this. Some would say riding street narrows your possibilities, but take the Streetfighterz. They have opened alot of doors that many thought impossible, (Videos in walmart etc..._) , all while tearing up the streets running from law enforcement officials.
The biggest thing in hooking sponsors is being open and honest with what you can do for them, what you expect from them in return, and what they expect from you conduct wise.
If you ever want to acheive factory.
you can not rock streets. period.
in fact kawasaki motor company told me, that had i EVER produced a video with me street stunting that i am pretty much SOL
on the flip side joe rocket preffers me to goto bike nights and rock streets
-kane
#26
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
Yes I ride. As for being opinionated, I am. I've learned a lot from you guys, and I'm all excited about the stuff I have picked up. Probably I should learn to keep some of that to myself, but if I think it'll help, then I want to help.
I am not a groupie or a stalker, just a person who gets gung ho about projects, especially something as exciting as this. I knew nothing about stunting when I decided to do this, and still know most of it now.
Having you say something like that isn't as big of a disappointment as someone who was nice to my face saying crap like that when I wasn't around. There is no way to learn enough about a group of people and their activities to do a film about it without paying an almost unbearable amount of attention to them. Research on this project was very personal.
But because of the people who took the time to help me understand, the project itself is better than if I'd avoided social discomfort and tried to learn from a distance.
I won't be so overbearing in the future. There's just a lot of information in my head now and I find it interesting, so I asume others do too.
I'm just a regular journalist type, only newer at it.
I am not a groupie or a stalker, just a person who gets gung ho about projects, especially something as exciting as this. I knew nothing about stunting when I decided to do this, and still know most of it now.
Having you say something like that isn't as big of a disappointment as someone who was nice to my face saying crap like that when I wasn't around. There is no way to learn enough about a group of people and their activities to do a film about it without paying an almost unbearable amount of attention to them. Research on this project was very personal.
But because of the people who took the time to help me understand, the project itself is better than if I'd avoided social discomfort and tried to learn from a distance.
I won't be so overbearing in the future. There's just a lot of information in my head now and I find it interesting, so I asume others do too.
I'm just a regular journalist type, only newer at it.
#27
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
lol banana bread yap yap doesnt like me.. boo hooo... LOL
groupie *****
maybe if the whole time you were her you werent trying to **** as much stunter **** as you could, and actually.. oh.. i dunno.. FILMED SOMETHING we would have taken you serious.
nice way to repay someone who lets you live in their house. your goddamn lunatic!! lol
people like you are why parents shouldnt let their kids on the internet!
i might be a jerk sometimes but at least im not a bloody maniac. talking to you was like talking to a mentally retarded child on crack. your a few beers short of a six pack there dear.. im sorry to say but you should invest in some serious mental health issues not tryin to slurp down stunter juice
journalist!? what they hell do u keep smoking you freak. u wrote an article for cycledreams one time like 3 years ago big fukin deal! ive had my writings published in several major magazines and i am in NO WAY a journalist... please...
now stop bastardizing every thread you can...
-kane
groupie *****
maybe if the whole time you were her you werent trying to **** as much stunter **** as you could, and actually.. oh.. i dunno.. FILMED SOMETHING we would have taken you serious.
nice way to repay someone who lets you live in their house. your goddamn lunatic!! lol
people like you are why parents shouldnt let their kids on the internet!
i might be a jerk sometimes but at least im not a bloody maniac. talking to you was like talking to a mentally retarded child on crack. your a few beers short of a six pack there dear.. im sorry to say but you should invest in some serious mental health issues not tryin to slurp down stunter juice
Originally Posted by excessa
I'm just a regular journalist type, only newer at it.
now stop bastardizing every thread you can...
-kane
Last edited by Kaneone; 11-14-2006 at 05:36 PM.
#28
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
Originally Posted by Kaneone
lol banana bread yap yap doesnt like me.. boo hooo... LOL
groupie *****
maybe if the whole time you were her you werent trying to **** as much stunter **** as you could, and actually.. oh.. i dunno.. FILMED SOMETHING we would have taken you serious.
nice way to repay someone who lets you live in their house. your goddamn lunatic!! lol
people like you are why parents shouldnt let their kids on the internet!
journalist!? what they hell do u keep smoking you freak. u wrote an article for cycledreams one time like 3 years ago big fukin deal! ive had my writings published in several major magazines and i am in NO WAY a journalist... please...
-kane
groupie *****
maybe if the whole time you were her you werent trying to **** as much stunter **** as you could, and actually.. oh.. i dunno.. FILMED SOMETHING we would have taken you serious.
nice way to repay someone who lets you live in their house. your goddamn lunatic!! lol
people like you are why parents shouldnt let their kids on the internet!
journalist!? what they hell do u keep smoking you freak. u wrote an article for cycledreams one time like 3 years ago big fukin deal! ive had my writings published in several major magazines and i am in NO WAY a journalist... please...
-kane
#30
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
Originally Posted by excessa
I've been avoiding this, but Kane, maybe people stick it to you because they know you'd do it to them.
blah, blah, blah
This is coming from a person who gives money to the same bum every couple of days, despite that bum having done nothing for me ever. Kane, I think you're a d1ck.
blah, blah, blah
This is coming from a person who gives money to the same bum every couple of days, despite that bum having done nothing for me ever. Kane, I think you're a d1ck.
Everything you have posted is personal opinion, rhetorical, and downright boring. Your lengthy rants very rarely have any input that will benefit this sport. All you seem to do is try and provoke arguments, get documentaries to benefit yourself, and try to impede knowledge upon all of us that is more often than not uneccessary and most of all worthless.
I agree with SmurfKilla... do you have any signficance to this site? Do you even ride?
#31
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
How many stunters have I met now? How many have I tried to get on? Anyone?
I filmed tons of stuff out there, I have four hours of you stunting and two hours of you talking, both to me and to all the riders you talked so much crap about. By misrepresenting my intentions and outright lying about me, you cost me money on a business endeavor.
I filmed tons of stuff out there, I have four hours of you stunting and two hours of you talking, both to me and to all the riders you talked so much crap about. By misrepresenting my intentions and outright lying about me, you cost me money on a business endeavor.
#32
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
Originally Posted by excessa
How many stunters have I met now? How many have I tried to get on? Anyone?
I filmed tons of stuff out there, I have four hours of you stunting and two hours of you talking, both to me and to all the riders you talked so much crap about. By misrepresenting my intentions and outright lying about me, you cost me money on a business endeavor.
I filmed tons of stuff out there, I have four hours of you stunting and two hours of you talking, both to me and to all the riders you talked so much crap about. By misrepresenting my intentions and outright lying about me, you cost me money on a business endeavor.
#33
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
Originally Posted by Kaneone
lol banana bread yap yap doesnt like me.. boo hooo... LOL
groupie *****
maybe if the whole time you were her you werent trying to **** as much stunter **** as you could, and actually.. oh.. i dunno.. FILMED SOMETHING we would have taken you serious.
nice way to repay someone who lets you live in their house. your goddamn lunatic!! lol
people like you are why parents shouldnt let their kids on the internet!
i might be a jerk sometimes but at least im not a bloody maniac. talking to you was like talking to a mentally retarded child on crack. your a few beers short of a six pack there dear.. im sorry to say but you should invest in some serious mental health issues not tryin to slurp down stunter juice
journalist!? what they hell do u keep smoking you freak. u wrote an article for cycledreams one time like 3 years ago big fukin deal! ive had my writings published in several major magazines and i am in NO WAY a journalist... please...
now stop bastardizing every thread you can...
-kane
groupie *****
maybe if the whole time you were her you werent trying to **** as much stunter **** as you could, and actually.. oh.. i dunno.. FILMED SOMETHING we would have taken you serious.
nice way to repay someone who lets you live in their house. your goddamn lunatic!! lol
people like you are why parents shouldnt let their kids on the internet!
i might be a jerk sometimes but at least im not a bloody maniac. talking to you was like talking to a mentally retarded child on crack. your a few beers short of a six pack there dear.. im sorry to say but you should invest in some serious mental health issues not tryin to slurp down stunter juice
journalist!? what they hell do u keep smoking you freak. u wrote an article for cycledreams one time like 3 years ago big fukin deal! ive had my writings published in several major magazines and i am in NO WAY a journalist... please...
now stop bastardizing every thread you can...
-kane
#34
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
Originally Posted by Mr. Farley
Was that post really necessary? Does it make you feel better now that you bashed Kane? Maybe you are a groupie? Maybe you sent Kane a picture from myspace which has "angles" and you looked hot but then when you showed up you were pretty much butt ugly?
Everything you have posted is personal opinion, rhetorical, and downright boring. Your lengthy rants very rarely have any input that will benefit this sport. All you seem to do is try and provoke arguments, get documentaries to benefit yourself, and try to impede knowledge upon all of us that is more often than not uneccessary and most of all worthless.
I agree with SmurfKilla... do you have any signficance to this site? Do you even ride?
Everything you have posted is personal opinion, rhetorical, and downright boring. Your lengthy rants very rarely have any input that will benefit this sport. All you seem to do is try and provoke arguments, get documentaries to benefit yourself, and try to impede knowledge upon all of us that is more often than not uneccessary and most of all worthless.
I agree with SmurfKilla... do you have any signficance to this site? Do you even ride?
I wasted a bunch of money to go film a worthless jerk. So yeah, I think this post is necessary. Maybe it'll save someone else the frustration.
#35
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
Originally Posted by Mr. Farley
Business endeavor or Groupie Crack Whorin'??
#36
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
Originally Posted by jowalskiMO
i thought it was interesting that thehate mentioned riding street. Our team rides street more than we hit the lots, and proudly does so.
#37
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
Originally Posted by excessa
Crack whoring is a business too. Let's not run down everyone just because you're angry with me.
Are you a freelance journalist? Do you have your own magazine? Do you even write for any current magazines?
Of the two series of questions, if you can't answer any of the second series of questions why in the HELL would you think you should even be allowed the time with Kane? Darius? Teach? Any pro rider? They don't have time for independent crack heads who claim to be doing big stories, and write ups, and interviews that amount to jack $hit. Do you have a tag with SSB on top with your name under it? No... you don't, so don't think b/c Kane realized you were a waste of his time he was supposed to treat you like gold. He gave you time out of his day to help someone out, who in turn... sounds like a waste of time. And according to most of your posts, you've accomplished nothing more than pissing away your own credibility as a "journalist".
#38
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
LOL i love stuntlife.. hahahaha..
back to the point of the thread...
sponsorships should be a whole class in college. there are sooo many different takes and expieriences, and relationships its crazy.
your as big as u make yourself out to be, and as long as the relationships are mutuall beneficial.. then your on the right track
forget about asking me or any other stunt rider.
i try to learn as much as i can by listening to ama racers and other prop athletes..
-kane
back to the point of the thread...
sponsorships should be a whole class in college. there are sooo many different takes and expieriences, and relationships its crazy.
your as big as u make yourself out to be, and as long as the relationships are mutuall beneficial.. then your on the right track
forget about asking me or any other stunt rider.
i try to learn as much as i can by listening to ama racers and other prop athletes..
-kane
#39
Re: Sponsors What Can You Do For Me......
Originally Posted by excessa
Who are you? You have no idea what you are talking about. I have never come on to Kane. In any way.
I wasted a bunch of money to go film a worthless jerk. So yeah, I think this post is necessary. Maybe it'll save someone else the frustration.
I wasted a bunch of money to go film a worthless jerk. So yeah, I think this post is necessary. Maybe it'll save someone else the frustration.
Yea stunt riders can be ****heads and a bit of a jerk sometimes, but just get get over it!!
I take plenty of hate from people because i show them out on a 50, but thats life!!
Im with Smurfkilla
ive never met kane, but he seems like a wise enough guy, and has done quite a bit for the sport, but you seem to have done nothing exept cause problems, your fighting a losing battle, the question you have to ask yourself is: Who are the stunt riders going to back?? A professional stunt rider?? or a groupie??
well thats what a 16 year old has to say, rock on kane
Last edited by Kevmo7; 11-14-2006 at 06:01 PM.
#40
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Like I said it aint a personal thing, but damn these days you just seem to be throwing up paragraph after paragraph, using words like documentary, journalist etc etc..in every other thread..
When do you find time for your "documentary" when all you do is post up useless shiat on here ??
Its like you absorbed Bibo and Kelm and now there are 3 of you posting trivial shiat outta one body and PC...
A bit of a break would be nice..You know there is no reward for reaching 10000 posts in 6 months !!
SK
When do you find time for your "documentary" when all you do is post up useless shiat on here ??
Its like you absorbed Bibo and Kelm and now there are 3 of you posting trivial shiat outta one body and PC...
A bit of a break would be nice..You know there is no reward for reaching 10000 posts in 6 months !!
SK