Sponsors v.s Skills!!
11-10-2006 | 08:32 PM
#104
street killa
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,931
From: LEVITTOWN PA
Re: Sponsors v.s Skills!!
Originally Posted by Kaneone
darius ur supposed to be the gangta and I'm supposed to be the pretty boy faggit in your eyes right??
then why have I proven time and time again that I'm a hustler
...and your nothing but a spoiled cry baby *****in on stuntlife wooh is your.. boo hooo.. darius didn't get in a magazine but kane,britton,colbert and dmann did...
I got an idea.. cry about it.
my skills r not the best.
yet they get me first place stunting wins, on tv, more sponsors than you, consistent podium placement and a solid booked schedule of over 30 shows a year..
I pay my bills with riding and can still sit here smiling and say that I love stunt riding.
why don't u tell us what u really do for a living while spending another friday night on myspace. ill be doing a stunt show this weekend in san luis obisbo oceanfront college party town
picking up girls with my wack skills.
stop crying... pretty boy out.
-kane
then why have I proven time and time again that I'm a hustler
...and your nothing but a spoiled cry baby *****in on stuntlife wooh is your.. boo hooo.. darius didn't get in a magazine but kane,britton,colbert and dmann did...
I got an idea.. cry about it.
my skills r not the best.
yet they get me first place stunting wins, on tv, more sponsors than you, consistent podium placement and a solid booked schedule of over 30 shows a year..
I pay my bills with riding and can still sit here smiling and say that I love stunt riding.
why don't u tell us what u really do for a living while spending another friday night on myspace. ill be doing a stunt show this weekend in san luis obisbo oceanfront college party town
picking up girls with my wack skills.
stop crying... pretty boy out.
-kane
11-10-2006 | 08:34 PM
#105
Quad Ridin Ninja
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,484
From: Wisconsin
Re: Sponsors v.s Skills!!
There is no relation in any equation that should compare skill to sponsorship. It's all about talking your way through it. I recieve a $5,000 sponsorship per year and my wheelies are garbage and I've never done a show in my life.
Most buisness owners wouldn't know the differnece between a squid and o.g. they just think the ***** cool, and they get their name out regardless.
Most buisness owners wouldn't know the differnece between a squid and o.g. they just think the ***** cool, and they get their name out regardless.
11-10-2006 | 08:40 PM
#109
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,896
From: Where the grapes and ganja be growin!
Re: Sponsors v.s Skills!!
Originally Posted by KUTZ
And just for the record no quad stunter on earth deserves a sponsor
11-10-2006 | 08:40 PM
#110
www.warpedtoys.com
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 531
From: Orlando, FL
Re: Sponsors v.s Skills!!
Originally Posted by Emrock
sponsor me with a bike it would be worth ur while
11-10-2006 | 08:45 PM
#112
www.warpedtoys.com
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 531
From: Orlando, FL
Re: Sponsors v.s Skills!!
Originally Posted by T-Ice
I did not read anyone else's posts so if i repeat something someone else said then i am sorry.....
i have to say the reason you see that is, the companies are looking for someone that is easy to market. Why would they want to market someone that has the skills but has no personality (that is not an attack on anyone). Companies are looking for a person that hypes crowds and helps to sell their product. They want a rider that is gonna sign autographs, have fun at shows and generally be nice to people. Also look at it this way, Kane comes to your door with a professional proposal, is established and has a list of shows and events that he is or has competed in. Or do you spend a bunch of money researching riders to find the best one out there, but turns out the best rider in the world can't talk to people or has no expierience doing show or comps. Lets face it, there are kids all over the U.S that are parking lot heros that never go anywhere because they simply cannot market themselves. There is a reason that Kane, Britton, Adrenaline crew and various others are doing better than everyone else, they are better at marketing. While it is very frusterating that great riders aren't getting noticed, but whos fault is that?? Its not kanes Fault that he can talk like a mad man, hes working just as hard or harder than the guys that are murdering ****. All in all i think it comes down too that its a bussiness and unknown riders are a risk. Why would you spend your money on a risk when there is something with less of a risk that has a better return on it........i know it sucks but all those good underatted riders out there should take a minute to send out sponsor proposals instead of sitting on stuntlife and or the couch. Everyone controls their own destiny in this sport and its like everything else, if you want it bad enough you are gonna have to work you *** off for it.................
let the bashing begin as i will be on Microsoft Word retyping my resume so i can be a crappy rider with my own sweet list of sponsors..............
Watch out for me in 2007.............hahahaha
Tice
i have to say the reason you see that is, the companies are looking for someone that is easy to market. Why would they want to market someone that has the skills but has no personality (that is not an attack on anyone). Companies are looking for a person that hypes crowds and helps to sell their product. They want a rider that is gonna sign autographs, have fun at shows and generally be nice to people. Also look at it this way, Kane comes to your door with a professional proposal, is established and has a list of shows and events that he is or has competed in. Or do you spend a bunch of money researching riders to find the best one out there, but turns out the best rider in the world can't talk to people or has no expierience doing show or comps. Lets face it, there are kids all over the U.S that are parking lot heros that never go anywhere because they simply cannot market themselves. There is a reason that Kane, Britton, Adrenaline crew and various others are doing better than everyone else, they are better at marketing. While it is very frusterating that great riders aren't getting noticed, but whos fault is that?? Its not kanes Fault that he can talk like a mad man, hes working just as hard or harder than the guys that are murdering ****. All in all i think it comes down too that its a bussiness and unknown riders are a risk. Why would you spend your money on a risk when there is something with less of a risk that has a better return on it........i know it sucks but all those good underatted riders out there should take a minute to send out sponsor proposals instead of sitting on stuntlife and or the couch. Everyone controls their own destiny in this sport and its like everything else, if you want it bad enough you are gonna have to work you *** off for it.................
let the bashing begin as i will be on Microsoft Word retyping my resume so i can be a crappy rider with my own sweet list of sponsors..............
Watch out for me in 2007.............hahahaha
Tice
For once we agree.
I could not have said it any better and I said about the same thing you did in my post, heck you said it better than I did..
11-10-2006 | 08:49 PM
#113
Registered User
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,353
From: Berlin, Germany
Re: Sponsors v.s Skills!!
Originally Posted by Thew1096
Just finished signing all my contracts for 2007. I just told them who I was and they gave me all sorts of ****. It was really easy, I don't know what the big deal is.
Are you planing to return to competitions in 07?...that´d be cool!
11-10-2006 | 09:04 PM
#114
Registered User
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,501
From: Las Vegas
Re: Sponsors v.s Skills!!
I don't have time to read all this bs because I need to run off to work. But I will say this...
Sponsors look for impact, a return on their investment.
Sponsors don't look for parking lots and other riders approval or rider credit.
It's not skills it's outreach, its not contests its shows, if its not shows its contests, its not how good but how much they like you and your look. You're just the face of a company that doesn't know the difference between a circle, coaster, or handstand, just that they like the handstand more. In our sport sponsors don't pay the bills for all but a couple riders, so at this point who cares? What the **** is a sponsor to a stunt rider at this point? Until we're talking about Pepsi and Ford its not worth our time thinking about it. And when that time comes we won't be discussing this **** on an open forum.
Sponsors look for impact, a return on their investment.
Sponsors don't look for parking lots and other riders approval or rider credit.
It's not skills it's outreach, its not contests its shows, if its not shows its contests, its not how good but how much they like you and your look. You're just the face of a company that doesn't know the difference between a circle, coaster, or handstand, just that they like the handstand more. In our sport sponsors don't pay the bills for all but a couple riders, so at this point who cares? What the **** is a sponsor to a stunt rider at this point? Until we're talking about Pepsi and Ford its not worth our time thinking about it. And when that time comes we won't be discussing this **** on an open forum.
11-10-2006 | 09:08 PM
#115
www.warpedtoys.com
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 531
From: Orlando, FL
Re: Sponsors v.s Skills!!
Originally Posted by BOB WITTMAN
just a question?? when did giving someone cost on parts become a sponser?? its called a discount in my book... cause theres 7 dealerships that give me a discount.. nothing for free.... they will not give a full sponser no apparell (a bike) not even a used one.. the owner of 3 (same owner) says that he dosent want to cause he dosent like stuntriders....?????he dosent consider it worthwhile to give a bike for that... just my
alltho its a tax write off?? even tho he knows me well and that i have bought 9units from him????? all new machines..except for 1........damn i pissed alot of money away at his shops!!!!!!!
We want to support as many riders as we can at the level they need, we don't want to go under at the same time, so we know what we can give and how many spots for each type rider. Like I said we do have spots open all it takes is a phone call, email ect. and it can be under way. Also the one rider that gets the parts at cost is/was super happy with it and is all he wanted to be honest.
Thanks and again just my 2 cents from the sponsor side of things..
11-10-2006 | 09:12 PM
#116
www.myspace.com/emrock
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,469
From: Tampa,FL
Re: Sponsors v.s Skills!!
Originally Posted by WarpedToys
Did it for Bill D already so me some skills I got that new gixxer 600 from stunt fest where Bill beat you know who.
there are some clips up there
11-10-2006 | 09:14 PM
#117
$$$$$$$
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,568
From: San Francisco, CA
Re: Sponsors v.s Skills!!
Originally Posted by Kaneone
darius ur supposed to be the gangta and I'm supposed to be the pretty boy faggit in your eyes right??
then why have I proven time and time again that I'm a hustler
...and your nothing but a spoiled cry baby *****in on stuntlife wooh is your.. boo hooo.. darius didn't get in a magazine but kane,britton,colbert and dmann did...
I got an idea.. cry about it.
my skills r not the best.
yet they get me first place stunting wins, on tv, more sponsors than you, consistent podium placement and a solid booked schedule of over 30 shows a year..
I pay my bills with riding and can still sit here smiling and say that I love stunt riding.
why don't u tell us what u really do for a living while spending another friday night on myspace. ill be doing a stunt show this weekend in san luis obisbo oceanfront college party town
picking up girls with my wack skills.
stop crying... pretty boy out.
-kane
then why have I proven time and time again that I'm a hustler
...and your nothing but a spoiled cry baby *****in on stuntlife wooh is your.. boo hooo.. darius didn't get in a magazine but kane,britton,colbert and dmann did...
I got an idea.. cry about it.
my skills r not the best.
yet they get me first place stunting wins, on tv, more sponsors than you, consistent podium placement and a solid booked schedule of over 30 shows a year..
I pay my bills with riding and can still sit here smiling and say that I love stunt riding.
why don't u tell us what u really do for a living while spending another friday night on myspace. ill be doing a stunt show this weekend in san luis obisbo oceanfront college party town
picking up girls with my wack skills.
stop crying... pretty boy out.
-kane
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11-10-2006 | 09:19 PM
#118
Registered User
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 144
From: system
Re: Sponsors v.s Skills!!
Originally Posted by on1furlyfe
here comes the e thugging.well if that was an opinion i would say it came across as a public bashing,just how i perceived it.
11-10-2006 | 09:38 PM
#119
Thread Starter
SERVIN IT UP
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,234
From: USA
Re: Sponsors v.s Skills!!
Originally Posted by Kaneone
darius ur supposed to be the gangta and I'm supposed to be the pretty boy faggit in your eyes right??
then why have I proven time and time again that I'm a hustler
...and your nothing but a spoiled cry baby *****in on stuntlife wooh is your.. boo hooo.. darius didn't get in a magazine but kane,britton,colbert and dmann did...
I got an idea.. cry about it.
my skills r not the best.
yet they get me first place stunting wins, on tv, more sponsors than you, consistent podium placement and a solid booked schedule of over 30 shows a year..
I pay my bills with riding and can still sit here smiling and say that I love stunt riding.
why don't u tell us what u really do for a living while spending another friday night on myspace. ill be doing a stunt show this weekend in san luis obisbo oceanfront college party town
picking up girls with my wack skills.
stop crying... pretty boy out.
-kane
then why have I proven time and time again that I'm a hustler
...and your nothing but a spoiled cry baby *****in on stuntlife wooh is your.. boo hooo.. darius didn't get in a magazine but kane,britton,colbert and dmann did...
I got an idea.. cry about it.
my skills r not the best.
yet they get me first place stunting wins, on tv, more sponsors than you, consistent podium placement and a solid booked schedule of over 30 shows a year..
I pay my bills with riding and can still sit here smiling and say that I love stunt riding.
why don't u tell us what u really do for a living while spending another friday night on myspace. ill be doing a stunt show this weekend in san luis obisbo oceanfront college party town
picking up girls with my wack skills.
stop crying... pretty boy out.
-kane
Whoa calm down there pinky I simply stated that there are much better riders out there that dont get sponsors. And then there is the D'mans etc that dont do jack ****!! I'll admit you do rep your sponsors and get them out there but after watching some videos of your riding I was shocked! Damn near everytime you tried a circle you could only do like 1-2, **** I was better than that 2 years ago. And ya somehow you did a fast stoppie but the **** I was watching was a joke, your **** is like 2 feet off the ground man. All I'm saying is if you want to have all these sponsors then polish up your riding cause you are way way way, turn around and look in the rearview way way back there!! You dont know the balance point, your circles are 2003, ya you can move around the bike but you dont make the bike move around there is a big difference! And I'm not hating on you buddy do your thing and I'll do mine, just cause were cool dont mean I cant bash you anymore dont take it personal! Now get back to picking up chicks instead of practicing the 180 stoppies you said you could do!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGApWZNA1Uo
