Problem with Endos..
#1
Problem with Endos..
Aight Flame me for not searchin but when i typed endo didnt get ****. I'm not great at endos(can only roll about 40 footers) and like the last 5 feet or so the *** starts to **** to the side. I've tried playin with body position(sitting a lil farther on the other side of the seat) and tryin to push it str8 with my legs. Any pointers would be helpful.
#5
Re: Problem with Endos..
http://www.superstreetbike.com/stunt...k_street_bike/
Basic Stoppie
Body position--specifically, keeping your body centered over the bike--is probably the most important aspect of pulling off a safe stoppie. You must first get your body dead-center over the middle of the bike with your head straight, shoulders squared and arms stiff. Having your body off-center is what's going to cause the back end to kick out once you get the back wheel up.
Once you're up to speed and your body is properly positioned, pull the clutch in and get on the brake. Make the initial brake input pretty strong, about 80 percent of full braking pressure, then back off as the bike comes up. Weight transfer is also important. At the same time you begin braking, rock your body forward to move your weight out over the front wheel. Starting from the middle of the seat, bring your shoulders up and slide up along the gas tank until you're off the seat just a little. When you move forward, make sure your body stays as straight as possible. Remember to keep your arms straight with elbows locked so your weight shift doesn't unintentionally steer the bike one way or the other.
As the back end comes up, gradually let off the brake as you approach the balance point. As long as you're on that brake hard, it'll keep coming up. You know you're near the balance point when you're barely on the brake and that back wheel is floating--not going any higher or dropping any lower. When I'm rolling a long one at the balance point, I'm just barely on the front brake--just about five percent, just dragging the pads.
For basic stoppies, you don't really have to think about steering--just keep your arms straight and you'll keep rolling straight. It's only when you start rolling them out really long that you have to worry about steering. The only difference between a 150-foot endo and, say, a 600-foot one is being able to steer it. Steering an endo is just like steering into a corner on two wheels--you have to countersteer. If the back end kicks to the right, push on the right bar and steer into it to pull the front wheel the same way the back end is going. The higher the bike is, the easier it is to steer.
For basic endos, just ride it out to a complete stop, let the back end fall, let out the clutch and ride away. You always want your body straight right up until the moment the tire touches the ground. Any time you move, you add a steering input to the front end. Don't be too worried if the bike gets a little out of line--it can get eight to 10 degrees off and you can still ride it out without highsiding. Sometimes I'll tap the rear brake just before the back end comes down. This stops the tire spinning and tightens the chain to keep it from slapping when it hits. It sounds better--a little style thing.
Basic Stoppie
Body position--specifically, keeping your body centered over the bike--is probably the most important aspect of pulling off a safe stoppie. You must first get your body dead-center over the middle of the bike with your head straight, shoulders squared and arms stiff. Having your body off-center is what's going to cause the back end to kick out once you get the back wheel up.
Once you're up to speed and your body is properly positioned, pull the clutch in and get on the brake. Make the initial brake input pretty strong, about 80 percent of full braking pressure, then back off as the bike comes up. Weight transfer is also important. At the same time you begin braking, rock your body forward to move your weight out over the front wheel. Starting from the middle of the seat, bring your shoulders up and slide up along the gas tank until you're off the seat just a little. When you move forward, make sure your body stays as straight as possible. Remember to keep your arms straight with elbows locked so your weight shift doesn't unintentionally steer the bike one way or the other.
As the back end comes up, gradually let off the brake as you approach the balance point. As long as you're on that brake hard, it'll keep coming up. You know you're near the balance point when you're barely on the brake and that back wheel is floating--not going any higher or dropping any lower. When I'm rolling a long one at the balance point, I'm just barely on the front brake--just about five percent, just dragging the pads.
For basic stoppies, you don't really have to think about steering--just keep your arms straight and you'll keep rolling straight. It's only when you start rolling them out really long that you have to worry about steering. The only difference between a 150-foot endo and, say, a 600-foot one is being able to steer it. Steering an endo is just like steering into a corner on two wheels--you have to countersteer. If the back end kicks to the right, push on the right bar and steer into it to pull the front wheel the same way the back end is going. The higher the bike is, the easier it is to steer.
For basic endos, just ride it out to a complete stop, let the back end fall, let out the clutch and ride away. You always want your body straight right up until the moment the tire touches the ground. Any time you move, you add a steering input to the front end. Don't be too worried if the bike gets a little out of line--it can get eight to 10 degrees off and you can still ride it out without highsiding. Sometimes I'll tap the rear brake just before the back end comes down. This stops the tire spinning and tightens the chain to keep it from slapping when it hits. It sounds better--a little style thing.
#6
Re: Problem with Endos..
Originally Posted by da Liks
upper body movement is where its at, and keeping them arms stiff as ***..
i would say otherwise..
for stoppies i like to keep myself loose, and if it starts to kick to one side or the other, just use your legs and arms to twist the tail back under control.
if its kicking to the right it probably means your pulling the handlebars and turning them to the right without even noticing it.
higher you are easier it is to manuever the rear and steer the bike
-kane
#7
Re: Problem with Endos..
search stoppies and matt gorka.
read this:
https://www.stuntlife.com/forums/sho...stoppies+gorka
and watch this:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...1009929098&n=2
read this:
https://www.stuntlife.com/forums/sho...stoppies+gorka
and watch this:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...1009929098&n=2
#9
Re: Problem with Endos..
Originally Posted by TongWoo
search stoppies and matt gorka.
read this:
https://www.stuntlife.com/forums/sho...stoppies+gorka
and watch this:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...1009929098&n=2
read this:
https://www.stuntlife.com/forums/sho...stoppies+gorka
and watch this:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...1009929098&n=2
#11
Re: Problem with Endos..
youve got to push on your clip ons or thats wat i do if the back end starts to go the right push on the right clip on, but unless your balanced or floating it is pretty hard to ster jus practice them from like 40mph dont try higher speed for longer distance u want low speed long distance i hit 214ft off 100ft approach
#12
Re: Problem with Endos..
Originally Posted by kxrider
youve got to push on your clip ons or thats wat i do if the back end starts to go the right push on the right clip on, but unless your balanced or floating it is pretty hard to ster jus practice them from like 40mph dont try higher speed for longer distance u want low speed long distance i hit 214ft off 100ft approach
#13
Re: Problem with Endos..
Originally Posted by Mr. Farley
Damn, you are wayyyyy over the front of your bike. I don't think I've ever seen someone so far over the front of their bike.
+1 i cant tell if hes about to kiss pavement or roll a sick stoppie...
#14
Re: Problem with Endos..
What really helped me was doing stoppie contests. Grab a set of cones from any local road construction site, measure out a 100ft approach and start doing stoppies over and over. Keep trying to beat yourself. You really learn how to snap your bike up to BP and you have something to compete with. Really, REALLY helped!!
#15
Re: Problem with Endos..
Thanx for all the help guys, I will all that **** at least once.
And we were doin a lil stoppie comp with **** marked out, thats how i know i only roll 40 footers :YEAH I dont really remember having this problem when i first started rollin endos.
And we were doin a lil stoppie comp with **** marked out, thats how i know i only roll 40 footers :YEAH I dont really remember having this problem when i first started rollin endos.
#16
Re: Problem with Endos..
Originally Posted by frayz
Aight Flame me for not searchin but when i typed endo didnt get ****. I'm not great at endos(can only roll about 40 footers) and like the last 5 feet or so the *** starts to **** to the side. I've tried playin with body position(sitting a lil farther on the other side of the seat) and tryin to push it str8 with my legs. Any pointers would be helpful.
#20
Re: Problem with Endos..
I like being way over the front of the bike, the steeper you are the easier they are to manuvuer. just do them over and over again and u find yourself steering them and that is how you keep them from kicking out on you.