Stoppie Theroy
#41
Re: Stoppie Theroy
Level X stoppie vid coming soon to theatres everywhere. Seriously, it's almost done and guaranteed to make you think we know what we're talking about. I'm very excited about this one and it will shed about as much light as high noon in the middle of summer on the equator....Hell, there are so many bright ideas I actually had to wear shades for a couple of the shots....and that's the truth.
#42
Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by Matt Gorka
Level X stoppie vid coming soon to theatres everywhere. Seriously, it's almost done and guaranteed to make you think we know what we're talking about. I'm very excited about this one and it will shed about as much light as high noon in the middle of summer on the equator....Hell, there are so many bright ideas I actually had to wear shades for a couple of the shots....and that's the truth.
If so I might need to get a copy and take a refresher course
#43
Re: Stoppie Theroy
A formula can be extrapolated using the variables of rake, trail, offset, handle bar height, rider position, etc and constant values of rider height/wieght, bike weight, approach speed, bike cg, etc. What this will get you is a more efficient way of reaching the front wheel bp after that it is up to the rider. I will ask a friend of mine to settle this.
Akuma
Akuma
Last edited by AKUMATOTENSHI; 10-06-2006 at 10:51 PM.
#44
Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by AKUMATOTENSHI
A formula can be extrapolated using the variables of rake, trail, offset, handle bar height, rider position, etc and constant values of rider height/wieght, bike weight, approach speed, bike cg, etc. I will ask a friend of mine to settle this.
Akuma
Akuma
Is he going to do this with a full tank of gas or an empty one? And speed doesn't matter with what we're arguing. I want to know the rake of my forks when i'm doing a bp stoppie with a full tank and 3 double cheeseburgers.
Seriously my arguement is that having the forks raised raises the balance point. That's all.
P.S. Experience is the best teacher.
I don't know what they're talking about w/ stoppie height changing how one is controlled. The last time i rode, i used my body to move my bars to put it where i want it.
Last edited by NME; 10-06-2006 at 11:03 PM.
#48
Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by NME
Is he going to do this with a full tank of gas or an empty one? And speed doesn't matter with what we're arguing. I want to know the rake of my forks when i'm doing a bp stoppie with a full tank and 3 double cheeseburgers.
Seriously my arguement is that having the forks raised raises the balance point. That's all.
P.S. Experience is the best teacher.
I don't know what they're talking about w/ stoppie height changing how one is controlled. The last time i rode, i used my body to move my bars to put it where i want it.
Seriously my arguement is that having the forks raised raises the balance point. That's all.
P.S. Experience is the best teacher.
I don't know what they're talking about w/ stoppie height changing how one is controlled. The last time i rode, i used my body to move my bars to put it where i want it.
Akuma
#50
Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by liduno
naaaaags
#51
Re: Stoppie Theroy
gotta get someone to push me up to speed though
#55
Re: Stoppie Theroy
I guess i was wrong. I should have figured it out before i started typing. Heres a gif showing the difference in stoppie height between lowerd and stock forks. With lowered forks, the balance point is phisically lower, but the angle is higher.
*edit... i was just looking at the pictures of the 2 bikes on both wheels. The bike with the lowered forks is already tilted forward. So either way stoppie height is relative.
*edit... i was just looking at the pictures of the 2 bikes on both wheels. The bike with the lowered forks is already tilted forward. So either way stoppie height is relative.
Last edited by f4rider; 10-07-2006 at 09:55 PM.
#57
Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by f4rider
I guess i was wrong. I should have figured it out before i started typing. Heres a gif showing the difference in stoppie height between lowerd and stock forks. With lowered forks, the balance point is phisically lower, but the angle is higher.
*edit... i was just looking at the pictures of the 2 bikes on both wheels. The bike with the lowered forks is already tilted forward. So either way stoppie height is relative.
*edit... i was just looking at the pictures of the 2 bikes on both wheels. The bike with the lowered forks is already tilted forward. So either way stoppie height is relative.
Damn Bro!!! Good job on the ....... Whatever that is!!!! I used "paint"!!!!
#58
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Originally Posted by sickR1
I ****ing post many links for calculations for this purpose.I mearly asked if any has tried it.Since you havnt then why the **** did you post?Cause you thought I was wrong and decided to argue with me about it?Don't get pissed off.You when to high school physics class right?
"Just think about it"
Why?When simple calcuations could state the facts not speculation.Don't hate what you don't understand.
I may not be able to spell but atleast I can add.
"Just think about it"
Why?When simple calcuations could state the facts not speculation.Don't hate what you don't understand.
I may not be able to spell but atleast I can add.
There you have it!!!
#59
Re: Stoppie Theroy
i was also wrong on the braking force needed to do endos on bikes with lowered front ends vs. stock. Braking force needed to pull up an endo is determined by the weight of the center of mass, and the angle of the center of mass relative to the pivot point (distance doesn't matter). Being that the angle is the same whether the front end is lowered or not, the braking force needed to endo should be the same.