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Old 10-06-2006 | 09:47 PM
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Level X stoppie vid coming soon to theatres everywhere. Seriously, it's almost done and guaranteed to make you think we know what we're talking about. I'm very excited about this one and it will shed about as much light as high noon in the middle of summer on the equator....Hell, there are so many bright ideas I actually had to wear shades for a couple of the shots....and that's the truth.
Old 10-06-2006 | 09:48 PM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy

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Level X stoppie vid coming soon to theatres everywhere. Seriously, it's almost done and guaranteed to make you think we know what we're talking about. I'm very excited about this one and it will shed about as much light as high noon in the middle of summer on the equator....Hell, there are so many bright ideas I actually had to wear shades for a couple of the shots....and that's the truth.
Do you include a pair of novelty sunglasses with every purchase?

If so I might need to get a copy and take a refresher course
Old 10-06-2006 | 10:34 PM
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A formula can be extrapolated using the variables of rake, trail, offset, handle bar height, rider position, etc and constant values of rider height/wieght, bike weight, approach speed, bike cg, etc. What this will get you is a more efficient way of reaching the front wheel bp after that it is up to the rider. I will ask a friend of mine to settle this.

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Old 10-06-2006 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AKUMATOTENSHI
A formula can be extrapolated using the variables of rake, trail, offset, handle bar height, rider position, etc and constant values of rider height/wieght, bike weight, approach speed, bike cg, etc. I will ask a friend of mine to settle this.

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Is he going to do this with a full tank of gas or an empty one? And speed doesn't matter with what we're arguing. I want to know the rake of my forks when i'm doing a bp stoppie with a full tank and 3 double cheeseburgers.

Seriously my arguement is that having the forks raised raises the balance point. That's all.

P.S. Experience is the best teacher.

I don't know what they're talking about w/ stoppie height changing how one is controlled. The last time i rode, i used my body to move my bars to put it where i want it.

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Re: Stoppie Theroy

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Maybe i don't know what i'm talking about so let me state a fact that i'm sure of: I will kill you in a stoppie comp.
stoppie comp to the death!!!!!! :YEAH
Old 10-06-2006 | 11:01 PM
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stoppie comp to the death!!!!!! :YEAH

Would i catch a charge?
Old 10-06-2006 | 11:25 PM
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you might catch a case.....
Old 10-07-2006 | 09:19 AM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy

Originally Posted by NME
Is he going to do this with a full tank of gas or an empty one? And speed doesn't matter with what we're arguing. I want to know the rake of my forks when i'm doing a bp stoppie with a full tank and 3 double cheeseburgers.

Seriously my arguement is that having the forks raised raises the balance point. That's all.

P.S. Experience is the best teacher.

I don't know what they're talking about w/ stoppie height changing how one is controlled. The last time i rode, i used my body to move my bars to put it where i want it.
Full tank of gas to make the formula easier. As for rider position look at the perpendicularity in relation to the ground on a couple of your old videos and you will see variation between longs and short ones.

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Re: Stoppie Theroy

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that might as well be a video of me
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Old 10-07-2006 | 09:03 PM
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naaaaags
Want a piece of me? Lets take it to the street :YEAH
Old 10-07-2006 | 09:04 PM
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gotta get someone to push me up to speed though
Old 10-07-2006 | 09:09 PM
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good god when i thought i have seen it all. just go try things your self. i personly like my forks raised.
Old 10-07-2006 | 09:42 PM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy

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good god when i thought i have seen it all. just go try things your self. i personly like my forks raised.

Exactly.....
Old 10-07-2006 | 09:45 PM
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damit the vid nags posted is not playing!

what was in that vid? NME rolling somethin gangster
Old 10-07-2006 | 09:49 PM
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I guess i was wrong. I should have figured it out before i started typing. Heres a gif showing the difference in stoppie height between lowerd and stock forks. With lowered forks, the balance point is phisically lower, but the angle is higher.
*edit... i was just looking at the pictures of the 2 bikes on both wheels. The bike with the lowered forks is already tilted forward. So either way stoppie height is relative.
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why are ppl making charts and **** come on now.. and drawings .

wheres the pie charts
Old 10-07-2006 | 10:09 PM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy

Originally Posted by f4rider
I guess i was wrong. I should have figured it out before i started typing. Heres a gif showing the difference in stoppie height between lowerd and stock forks. With lowered forks, the balance point is phisically lower, but the angle is higher.
*edit... i was just looking at the pictures of the 2 bikes on both wheels. The bike with the lowered forks is already tilted forward. So either way stoppie height is relative.

Damn Bro!!! Good job on the ....... Whatever that is!!!! I used "paint"!!!!
Old 10-07-2006 | 10:11 PM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy

Originally Posted by sickR1
I ****ing post many links for calculations for this purpose.I mearly asked if any has tried it.Since you havnt then why the **** did you post?Cause you thought I was wrong and decided to argue with me about it?Don't get pissed off.You when to high school physics class right?

"Just think about it"
Why?When simple calcuations could state the facts not speculation.Don't hate what you don't understand.

I may not be able to spell but atleast I can add.

There you have it!!!
Old 10-07-2006 | 10:58 PM
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i was also wrong on the braking force needed to do endos on bikes with lowered front ends vs. stock. Braking force needed to pull up an endo is determined by the weight of the center of mass, and the angle of the center of mass relative to the pivot point (distance doesn't matter). Being that the angle is the same whether the front end is lowered or not, the braking force needed to endo should be the same.
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Originally Posted by TheRomanSF415x
why are ppl making charts and **** come on now.. and drawings .

wheres the pie charts
here's another one
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