Stoppie Theroy
10-06-2006 | 12:34 PM
#22
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Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by BigBalla
anyone ever done the opposite on a stock f4i front end?
it gave a better bite for stoppies, felt really awkward on 2 wheels, especially turning.
10-06-2006 | 12:40 PM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by NME
The front axle IS the center of gravity. The shorter your front end is, the higher your bike will need to be, making it less stable or prone to shake.
The center of gravity is the same thing as the center of mass, which on a motorcycle is somewhere near the top of the motor as the first picture shows.
10-06-2006 | 12:48 PM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy
lowering the front end makes endos come up easier and lowers the balance point. However, a higher balence point is better with endos. The higher endos are, the more they are controled by body movement, and the less they are affected by handlebar movement.
10-06-2006 | 08:05 PM
#25
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Re: Stoppie Theroy
i have a f4 with the vortex fliped on top of the triples with the triples lowerd and a perrelli corsa front tire and that is the best set up i have ever felt on a stock f4 (no 954ect front end)
10-06-2006 | 08:17 PM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by f4rider
lowering the front end makes endos come up easier and lowers the balance point. However, a higher balence point is better with endos. The higher endos are, the more they are controled by body movement, and the less they are affected by handlebar movement.
Wrong again. Just imagine it to an extreme. If the front end was a foot long to the axle, your bike will have to be higher to get the center of gravity directly over the top of the axle. Draw an imaginary line from the center of gravity in the pic to the axle. Then do the same with an imaginary shorter front end and a longer front end. To be at balance point, the center of gravity will have to be over the axle. Think about it.....or go to a highschool phisics class for a day. But seriously, THINK about it.....
Do you do stoppies? just curious.....
Last edited by NME; 10-06-2006 at 08:37 PM.
10-06-2006 | 08:29 PM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy
i put the vortex clipons on today. didnt stunt m yet but feels great. got some clearance problems with the fairing though. i havent changed the forks yet. gonna do that ON the spot. i wanna feel the difference!
10-06-2006 | 08:39 PM
#29
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Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by NME
Wrong again. Just imagine it to an extreme. If the front end was a foot long to the axle, your bike will have to be higher to get the center of gravity directly over the top of the axle. Draw an imaginary line from the center of gravity in the pic to the axle. Then do the same with an imaginary shorter front end and a longer front end. To be at balance point, the center of gravity will have to be over the axle. Think about it.....or go to a highschool phisics class for a day. But seriously, THINK about it.....
Do you do stoppies? just curious.....
Do you do stoppies? just curious.....
+1
nicely put
10-06-2006 | 08:40 PM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by NME
Wrong again. Just imagine it to an extreme. If thr front end was a foot long to the axle, your bike will have to be higher to get the center of gravity directly over the top of the axle. Draw an imaginary line from the center of gravity in the pic to the axle. Then do the same with an imaginary shorter front end and a longer front end. To be at balance point, the center of gravity will have to be over the axle. Think about it.....or go to a highschool phisics class for a day. But seriously, THINK about it.....
Do you do stoppies? just curious.....
Do you do stoppies? just curious.....
10-06-2006 | 08:46 PM
#31
Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by sickR1
If you think he and I are wrong then prove it.Post up some hard data.
10-06-2006 | 08:54 PM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by nags
OOOOHHHH NOOOOO!!!
Thanks, bro!!!
Guys, if i'm wrong, than i am... Maybe i don't know what i'm talking about so let me state a fact that i'm sure of: I will kill you in a stoppie comp.
10-06-2006 | 09:18 PM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by NME
OOOOHHHH NOOOOO!!!
Thanks, bro!!!
Guys, if i'm wrong, than i am... Maybe i don't know what i'm talking about so let me state a fact that i'm sure of: I will kill you in a stoppie comp.
Thanks, bro!!!
Guys, if i'm wrong, than i am... Maybe i don't know what i'm talking about so let me state a fact that i'm sure of: I will kill you in a stoppie comp.
10-06-2006 | 09:19 PM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by sickR1
Dude just post up some numbers to back up what your saying.If you cant back it up then why argue with someone if you don't know yourself?
You're right... I have no idea why i can do what i do. Have you posted #s? Just a pic from a site. ALL i'm asking is to think about it! Or if you're right, just flip your whole front end and mount your wheel on top of the clamps. Then, by your theory,(YES IT'S SPELLED THEORY) your stoppies will only have to be one inch off the ground.
Last edited by NME; 10-06-2006 at 09:31 PM.
10-06-2006 | 09:32 PM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by NME
You're right... I have no idea why i can do what i do. Have you posted #s? Just a pic from a site. ALL i'm asking is to think about it! Or if you're right, just flip your whole front end and mount your wheel on top of the clamps. Then, by your theory, your stoppies will only have to be one inch off the ground.
"Just think about it"
Why?When simple calcuations could state the facts not speculation.Don't hate what you don't understand.
I may not be able to spell but atleast I can add.
10-06-2006 | 09:34 PM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by liduno
dudes bad *** i thought nag was postin some of himself not nme
10-06-2006 | 09:39 PM
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Re: Stoppie Theroy
Originally Posted by sickR1
I ****ing post many links for calculations for this purpose.I mearly asked if any has tried it.Since you havnt then why the **** did you post?Cause you thought I was wrong and decided to argue with me about it?Don't get pissed off.You when to high school physics class right?
"Just think about it"
Why?When simple calcuations could state the facts not speculation.Don't hate what you don't understand.
I may not be able to spell but atleast I can add.
"Just think about it"
Why?When simple calcuations could state the facts not speculation.Don't hate what you don't understand.
I may not be able to spell but atleast I can add.
Then you do it your way and i'll continue to do it mine.
