We'll the reason my website is jacked right now is I dont have a decent webguy, never really have and I dont know how to do it myself. Myspace is easy for anybody to update but ya I know man the website has been jacked up. Forum dont work, videos and gallery is down. I need to get my **** straight for sure, any web guys wanna do my ****?

 

Darius,
I believe the $$$ making days are over. and that goes across to everyone, be it movies, music, stunt dvds, games..... ever since "burners" came out to the market, everything has gone down hill.

everybody just watches clips on the net, and dont buy the actual DVDs. everybody has broadband, so they all have quick access to trailers/pics. so they dont feel like buying DVDs. if 1 person buys a dvd, i can guarantee you if they know how to rip it, or have a friend that knows how to rip it, theyll duplicate a few copies. it goes the same for music, and videogames, as well as movies.

I support the sport, so I started making my own dvd collection, even though I can borrow copies and burn them.

I think you should be happy that a lot of people look up to you. Thats more gratifying that any paycheck youll ever get.

Im just a fan. :YEAH stunt riding :YEAH

and I promise ill order some of your DVDs with my next paycheck.

 

i just hate getting **** off line....i rather goto the store and buy it cause it takes to dam long to get here, atleast thats me.....

 

Doing monster truck shows is great, and while it increases the visibility of the sport, I could see where it's not espcially $ beneficial, yet.

You guys have more than likely saturated your market with merchandise and are now incrementally expanding your market. The best exposure is the tv. Press of any kind is good, but on tv people who'd NEVER see stunting will see it, and a good percentage will like to see more.

And it takes too long. It always has.

Congrats on selling your videos. :D

 

Don't get me started on this subject........I could go on longer than anybody's attention span would allow.
Bottom line is this: anybody that is hyping your "exposure" is appealing to your ego to get out of paying you....and unfortunately it works because more than half of why (I) we ride is for recognition and props, so the ego is pretty easy to appeal to. But, the mortgage doesn't get paid on props or applause. Gas stations don't take autographs as far as I know and the last time I went to publix with a conveyor full of groceries and told the lady my name was Matt Gorka, she held her hand out not to shake mine, but for my debit card. Sad but true. At your stage in the game, it's not a d!ck move to demand money for performance and anybody who says so has no idea of the sacrifices and freebies you've given along the way.

 

I'm not really complaining, I just think it's wierd how you can have so many people read about something and not really have the inerest enough to make a purchase.

 

IMO reading about it isn't enough, and seeing it at events that appeal to a completely unrelated market, like monster trucks, may attract new fans, but they didn't come to see stunting, they came to see trucks. The drift shows have a similar equation, the majority go to see cars, stick around for the "halftime entertainment" and a percentage will be hooked.

The larger audience you reach, the more fans you'll attract. These events are important to the sport for gathering momentum, but thye're not enough to carry you guys past the gate. They are more like another small piece slowly floating into place.

I can't imagine how frustrating it is to work so hard at something and have it take so long to develop into what it should be.

Old school Skaters and FMX guys should remember these days well enough and could probably give good insight into how long it took to get where they are, and what steps had to be taken before the big doors started opening.

I don't know, though, it's just my gut feeling. I know you guys are all going to blow up. I wish I knew when and what will be the big push that gets you over the edge.

 

There is a bit of difference though. Darius, you are already established name in the business and in your area, if someone thinks of a stunt show, you're name is on their lips.

For the others out there that exposure to that many people may mean paying shows in the future that pay more than gas. You never know who is watching in the crowd.

I know we have taken a hit in the earlier days to do a show just to get our name out there in our area.

.02

 

well since we are on the topic of no one getting your ****. why dont you send me alot of your products and merchandise for free and ill tell everyone i bought them and your a great business man to deal with and BAAAAAAAAMMM alot of suckers will be buying your junk. so ill send you my addy asap

keep in touch with yourself

 

expsosure.....? lol We've all done the exposure thing. It never has quite turned out the way I ever hoped or the way the promoter said it would.Why would they possibly lie?lol

PawPaw

 

The people outside of the industry mostlikey to purchase a video are the type of person referred to as an impulse buyer. Your demographic is a younger crowd with a short attention span that is interested in instant gratification. They want something in their hands when they spend their money

As far as exposer it's all about where you get it. Newspapers are cool but not as many younger people read them. The demographic that is mostlikely to buy your videos, read FHM, Stuff, Maxim, or other other motorcycle magazines. The older generations have already formed an opinion about this sport and aren't going to support something they think is a crime. You have to go after the younger generations that want to do something new.

Just my opinions....

 

[QUOTE=foto]The people outside of the industry mostlikey to purchase a video are the type of person referred to as an impulse buyer. Your demographic is a younger crowd with a short attention span that is interested in instant gratification. They want something in their hands when they spend their money

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very true........even in my shop i can sell ice cubes to an eskimo if ive got it in stock but if they have to order it then it dont sell that great.........and all the peeps out hear burning DVD's and **** you will never compete with that

 

my buddy sitting hear just said that there is someway out there that DVD makers are making them so the cant be copied........maybe you should check into that

 

its because your Vin Diesel.

 

yo d...do a search on servin it up

this is what you get. why would someone go to your site and pay 24.95 for a dvd when they can go directly to this site and get one for 5.99 (in the top 5 of search on yahoo). they dont know which siu is the latest and greatest.

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We'll, I think its because everybody is like my ****head friends and thinks that wheelies are easy and circles look boring even though they have never done more than a sit down throttle wheelie that is about 6 inches high. They say that they know they can do better but don't want to hurt their bikes.
And they always give me **** for sitting at the spot every night of the week trying to learn them. People just don't respect the sport unless they ride and have *****, cause they are the only people that understand the skill it takes. Even when you did that Super Streetbike Night Out show. . . I was freaking out cause it was my first time seeing you guys in person but noone was even clapping. The announcer would be like " Give these guys a hand!" and you would hear one dude in the back "clap. clap" ... I think the only answer is to take this **** back to streets, I ride my 900rr and f4i every day to school beat to hell 12bar and cage scraped up and a 55 tooth rear sprocket and everyone asks about it. We need to start putting websites on our bikes and t-shirts and go do some street riding. I know that will work.

 

i can't remember how i heard of you D
but i ordered 4 dvd's off you
i don't think you ship to many dvds to newfoundland, canada

 

First off, I am a fan, so keep that in mind while reading this!

Your problem is marketing. There are 2 groups of people that you need to consider when marketing yourself and then 2 sub-groups from there. These people are what you need to consider before doing a show, before spending advertising money so you can find a good ROI.

1. People that know you
Sub: Like or dislike
2. People that dont know you
Sub: Want to or dont care

The mediums you are advertising in may not be the best place to put your advertising dollars. In terms of exposure, you can never get enough. So if that show paid for you to go there and you did get exposure, then yes it was worth it. However if you were looking to sell videos, your approach shoud've been diffferent. Were your videos availible so people could buy them along with there BigFoot t-shirts at all of the kiosks??? Every stand in that place shouldve had your merchandise availible for purchase.

And how about at the door?? Did you have people passing out flyers?? Promotions??? something with your website on it so when people left they didnt have to remember your website, (half of them were prolly drunk or with there kids not paying attention to the announcer telling your sight..)

"Honey, that motorcycle stunter was awesome, I would love to see more but cant remember what his website or name is, I will google it or yahoo it" Than they come across the Starboyz or Kane and there goes your movie sale or impression on your website.

Bottom line you need to identify your market, your potential market and then aggresively go after those people. How many younger (10-16 yr old) kids did you go and meet or talk to. PR is huge dude,

sounds like you need to buck up on marketing and management or hire one.

Just as Tongwoo said, Your doing it positively so +1 on everything, and your riding speaks for itself, now, focus your energy a little more strategicaly and Im sure the success is right around the corner.

 

^+1

For this sport to go where you want it to this is what is going to have to be done.

 

Im no marketing genious, but I'll throw out an idea.

Is it possible to set up tables at the venues like the monster truck show to sell DVDs? Guaranteed more than 1 person would have bought it.

Trying to remember a URL isn't easy when 100s of URLs are in your face all the time.


edit: I guess you nailed it already TireTrauma, lol.