12 O'clock???
08-20-2006, 08:38 PM
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Re: 12 O'clock???
Originally Posted by thehate.
I dont think you get the concept... a 12 is anything past BP...
where would you ever get that from? im with SDFKILLZ on this one... a 12 refers to a clock at 12.. STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN.
08-20-2006, 08:42 PM
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Re: 12 O'clock???
Originally Posted by Nikoli
where would you ever get that from? im with SDFKILLZ on this one... a 12 refers to a clock at 12.. STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN.
08-20-2006, 08:52 PM
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Re: 12 O'clock???
Originally Posted by thehate.
I dont think you get the concept... a 12 is anything past BP...
most BP/brake wheelies are in the general area of around 10-11 oclock depending on the bike, if you're standing, sitting, slowing down, speeding up, etc (clock A)
Then you have 12, where the bike is perfectly verticel (axils vert-in-line, or close enough) (Clock B)
then you have past 12, like that wheelie pic or the one of pfeiffer here. (Clock C)
I have a little free time today as you can see.
Last edited by skidmark; 08-20-2006 at 08:55 PM.
08-20-2006, 08:56 PM
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Re: 12 O'clock???
Originally Posted by skidmark
I think this should sum it up;
most BP/brake wheelies are in the general area of around 10-11 oclock depending on the bike, if you're standing, sitting, slowing down, speeding up, etc (clock A)
Then you have 12, where the bike is perfectly verticel (axils vert-in-line, or close enough) (Clock B)
then you have past 12, like that wheelie pic or the one of pfeiffer here. (Clock C)
I have a little free time today as you can see.
most BP/brake wheelies are in the general area of around 10-11 oclock depending on the bike, if you're standing, sitting, slowing down, speeding up, etc (clock A)
Then you have 12, where the bike is perfectly verticel (axils vert-in-line, or close enough) (Clock B)
then you have past 12, like that wheelie pic or the one of pfeiffer here. (Clock C)
I have a little free time today as you can see.
08-20-2006, 08:58 PM
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Re: 12 O'clock???
Originally Posted by skidmark
I think this should sum it up;
most BP/brake wheelies are in the general area of around 10-11 oclock depending on the bike, if you're standing, sitting, slowing down, speeding up, etc (clock A)
Then you have 12, where the bike is perfectly verticel (axils vert-in-line, or close enough) (Clock B)
then you have past 12, like that wheelie pic or the one of pfeiffer here. (Clock C)
I have a little free time today as you can see.
most BP/brake wheelies are in the general area of around 10-11 oclock depending on the bike, if you're standing, sitting, slowing down, speeding up, etc (clock A)
Then you have 12, where the bike is perfectly verticel (axils vert-in-line, or close enough) (Clock B)
then you have past 12, like that wheelie pic or the one of pfeiffer here. (Clock C)
I have a little free time today as you can see.
wow
08-20-2006, 08:59 PM
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Re: 12 O'clock???
Originally Posted by sdfkillz
yah top one is not 12 thats like 1 oclock scraping. 12 is straight up jsut like a CLOCK hand at 12 hahah i dont understand the difficulty in grasping the concept.
08-20-2006, 09:21 PM
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Re: 12 O'clock???
a 12 o'clock refers to a particular wheelie, not the degrees/minutes/seconds of the geometry of motorcycling. If we go that far, most only do 9:25 wheelies. Let's not lose focus. A highchair scrape is a highchair scrape. If you said you were riding highchair 12's, I wouldn't interpret your bike to be on the bar, scraping across the parking lot for a quarter mile. Before most of you knew what a handbrake was, a gentleman named Wink 1100 broke it down classroom style. Ask an elder to borrow the video and dust off your VCR. I recommend a lesson in history for everyone who hasn't seen it. It will shed light on why and how you're doing what you're doing today.
The 12 was named years ago when it was compared to your basic power wheelie because brakes were only used for endo's. This was long before scrape bars existed and sawing 6 inches off tailsections. It was named a 12 because compared to everything else, it was vertical..... and not to mention only the best of the best could do it.
The 12 was named years ago when it was compared to your basic power wheelie because brakes were only used for endo's. This was long before scrape bars existed and sawing 6 inches off tailsections. It was named a 12 because compared to everything else, it was vertical..... and not to mention only the best of the best could do it.
Last edited by Matt Gorka; 08-20-2006 at 09:32 PM.
08-20-2006, 09:49 PM
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Re: 12 O'clock???
Originally Posted by Matt Gorka
a 12 o'clock refers to a particular wheelie, not the degrees/minutes/seconds of the geometry of motorcycling. If we go that far, most only do 9:25 wheelies. Let's not lose focus. A highchair scrape is a highchair scrape. If you said you were riding highchair 12's, I wouldn't interpret your bike to be on the bar, scraping across the parking lot for a quarter mile. Before most of you knew what a handbrake was, a gentleman named Wink 1100 broke it down classroom style. Ask an elder to borrow the video and dust off your VCR. I recommend a lesson in history for everyone who hasn't seen it. It will shed light on why and how you're doing what you're doing today.
The 12 was named years ago when it was compared to your basic power wheelie because brakes were only used for endo's. This was long before scrape bars existed and sawing 6 inches off tailsections. It was named a 12 because compared to everything else, it was vertical..... and not to mention only the best of the best could do it.
The 12 was named years ago when it was compared to your basic power wheelie because brakes were only used for endo's. This was long before scrape bars existed and sawing 6 inches off tailsections. It was named a 12 because compared to everything else, it was vertical..... and not to mention only the best of the best could do it.
08-20-2006, 09:58 PM
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Re: 12 O'clock???
Originally Posted by skidmark
I think this should sum it up;
most BP/brake wheelies are in the general area of around 10-11 oclock depending on the bike, if you're standing, sitting, slowing down, speeding up, etc (clock A)
Then you have 12, where the bike is perfectly verticel (axils vert-in-line, or close enough) (Clock B)
then you have past 12, like that wheelie pic or the one of pfeiffer here. (Clock C)
I have a little free time today as you can see.
most BP/brake wheelies are in the general area of around 10-11 oclock depending on the bike, if you're standing, sitting, slowing down, speeding up, etc (clock A)
Then you have 12, where the bike is perfectly verticel (axils vert-in-line, or close enough) (Clock B)
then you have past 12, like that wheelie pic or the one of pfeiffer here. (Clock C)
I have a little free time today as you can see.
08-20-2006, 10:08 PM
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Re: 12 O'clock???
Originally Posted by Matt Gorka
The 12 was named years ago when it was compared to your basic power wheelie because brakes were only used for endo's... It was named a 12 because compared to everything else, it was vertical...
in my world I'm still right
08-20-2006, 10:14 PM
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Re: 12 O'clock???
Originally Posted by thehate.
I dont think you get the concept... a 12 is anything past BP...
08-20-2006, 10:22 PM
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Re: 12 O'clock???
Why is a flamingo called a flamingo when a flamingo actually tucks its leg under him/her and not out? Deal with it. The 12 was named long ago and it is what it is. If you want to compare your bike to a clock when describing its position, that's up to you, but a 12 0' Clock wheelie is what it is and was named long ago. If you want to name a trick then invent it.
08-21-2006, 09:21 AM
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Re: 12 O'clock???
Originally Posted by Matt Gorka
Why is a flamingo called a flamingo when a flamingo actually tucks its leg under him/her and not out? Deal with it. The 12 was named long ago and it is what it is. If you want to compare your bike to a clock when describing its position, that's up to you, but a 12 0' Clock wheelie is what it is and was named long ago. If you want to name a trick then invent it.
08-21-2006, 09:29 AM
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Re: 12 O'clock???
why is everyone so obsessed on the proper way of saying things here. i think 12 is straight up and down, but I'm not OLD SCHOOL so it don't count? funk that. it is what it is....an opinion.
