crtchrktrcr

i'm not ballarina.. but can i wear spandex anyway?

1wheelfelon

they are called crowd pleasers...... get in front of just about any crowd match up someone doing 50 circle combos and then have someone slide up and flip off the bike.... ENTERTAINMENT the crowd is what is gonna move this hobby farther down the road to one day maybe making it a sport

B2S

hmm,id say if your hatin on tricks its becuz the ppl who can do them get all the love and u dont cuz u cant do it.jealousy??????
P.S. how many r gonna hate me for that now?haahaha

mikkee

That's just a pic/avatar pal. Foot dn is just a sit dn wheelie variation, and your foot is only dragging, it's not really balanceing you, and doesn't keep the wheel up - the brake and gas does. I could be wrong but do u even stunt, or have you done a foot down wheelie??? I can do feet up sit dns just fine also.

I evaluated just fine - It's just my opinion that doing a flip doesn't show your skill in "riding" your motorcycle. It just shows that you can do a flip and are a freaking balerina. I've never done a flip ever but I am very athletic and if I put forth a little effort I know I could do it, and apply it to riding. I just don't believe it showcases a riders actual "riding skill." The sport can and will progress with out flips.

If someone wins a Individual Freestyle competition because they can do a flip and another rider can't, that's some..

mikkee

This is very true but there are many other tricks that actually involves you on your bike that I stated earlier. (Burnouts, high endos, revlimiter tricks, high speed scrapes).

five636

I don't necessarily think that's true, But it doesn't mean some people are not acting that way. It also doesn't mean if you can't do them it means you're not capable. I personally think they're stupid looking. I also think that it shows you're in good physical shape and the crowd is responding to that. It Doesn't mean It takes actual Streetbike skill. Example. When a man standing jumps over a moving motorcycle. Where does the Sportbike Freestyle end and the Circus Act begin. I'm not hating, but Stunting/Crazy Sh*T isn't the same As Sportbike Freestyle IMHO.

T-Ice

Yes i do ride, and you are correct, i can not do a foot down sit down, if you are calling that a variation you have just made my day, do you call it a four wheeler wheelie? my bad, its more like a three wheeler, back on topic tho, you might not like it but it is new tricks, crowds love that stuff, i know nuthing of you or your riding, but if you have any show expierience you will know about tricks called crowd pleasers, crowds don't care aboot HC cirlces or HC coasters or any of that, they want to be entertained.....with that said i think that you will see people with front flips and back flips and other various crowd pleasers winning competitiions............

Vetter

Its an entertainment thing. If you are doing shows then yeah, i say throw a little acro in. Honestly, i watched some clips on you tube of AZ stuntfest and a bunch of guys killed it but J-beats stole the show with some acro. It was blantanly obvious how the crowd (most of which whom doesnt know better) loved the acro. It was entertaining to them. And who are they going to remember, the guy thats flailing his limbs around like a circus monkey. And if an individual freestyle event has a part thats judged on crowd pleasing then why not do it. I mean, honestly most of it takes more gonads then skill.

mikkee

It's not hate buddy. If I could do it I would use it in and endzone dance or some kind of celebration, not in streetbike stuntriding. I do what I do and if the croud likes it then fine..... If they don't well... they don't. If I'm doing a show and someone does a flip, I'm laughing under my helmet, not wishing I could do that.


Damn you all are a tough croud!


I don't know how much clearer I can be when I say that a flip isn't a motorcycle trick, it's a gymnist trick.

Vetter

beat me to that sh*t

OT: gnarls barkely owns.

KF_Chris

what if the old school stunters started saying that everything new was gay? saying something new is gay is naive (Evian spelled backwards). it is a public forum, and a free country...so we're all entitled to our opinions.

Round bars = gay
DB bars = gay
HB = gay

that better? it's an evolution of a young sport. some things will come and go but as it was said before: ultimately the crowd decides what we do to pump them up.

Vetter

Its not a skilled motorcycle trick, you are correct. Acro takes virtually no motorcycle skill. we all know this. jsut because it takes no skill doesnt mean you dont need to do it to get the crowd into it. Hell, start off a run with acro to grab the crowds attention or inbetween highly technical tricks. Do the acro to keep up the crowd attention, then kill the super technical stuff.


I love pleasing people who watch me ride and if they want acro they get acro.

mikkee

Definately know about the croud pleasers, most all of the time the less difficult tricks for example :christ, rear skitch, standing revlimiter burnout, switchback, even scraping to a stop parking it and walking away...

I hope winning comps doesn't come down to if u can do a flip or not.

KF_Chris

I'm not debating anyone. Acros take no riding skill but learning them takes *****. everytime I see a gurilla (mispelled) roll, that flips me out. acros are funky to watch, to me at least.

Big Tom

If it gets me a piece of ***, ill backflip off of a 72 Gremlin that doesnt run:YEAH

T-Dubby

No but I'm sure acros will be part of the scoring

KF_Chris

aren't they already in the XDL comp?

mikkee

Finally someone understands!!! Thank you!

Ok so all of you can go ahead and do all the flipitys u want for crowd pleasers at a show. If fairyflipperdoodle is your style.. Fine do it.. Make the croud cheer, and I will do the same without the fairyflipperdoodle.

Somebody better not win a freaking freestyle comp because they can flip.

Scott-

bro your right on point that **** is gay

Paw Paw

I agree, my man! Crowd pleasing tricks are where it's at. ....and yeah, they still love bar tricks too! lol

PawPaw